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asciilifeform: and yes, we all saw that one
asciilifeform: swarms are old news
asciilifeform: i recall kicking diametric's chopper in mid-air and it only wobbled a bit.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: that's the thing, they have excellent behaviour when perturbed
asciilifeform: one could also, presumably, have 'tiles' which only carry battery (or only thrusters) depending on whether endurance is at a premium
asciilifeform: the choppers will snap together like children's 'lego' and share control and power bus
asciilifeform: this is simpler than it sounds because they are traditionally built in such a way that operator sets desired angle and motors 'bang-bang' with pde dampening until it is achieved
asciilifeform: lifting whatever size load as one wishes, like balloons
asciilifeform: small multicopters could be built which tesselate.
asciilifeform: in other news, i had a most peculiar '1024 chickens'-flavoured thought -
asciilifeform: <mircea_popescu> ... brendafdez -1 Highly intelligent and utterly self-destructive << wai wat, was this in-channel? iirc this person simply vanished into thin air without so much as a squeak ☟︎
asciilifeform: timestamp of the latest incoming bitcoin transation ought to determine the clock time << this promises to be very gnarly and even non-monotonic unless we're very careful
asciilifeform: <mircea_popescu> three hours with the fucking ram because apparently no fucking blacksmith existed anymore. << l0l, mircea_popescu got a free penetration test from enemy
asciilifeform: even folks who just want a nas without proprietary turdware
asciilifeform: the inevitable 'price of open source' is that we made pogo suddenly considerably more appetizing for just about everybody.
asciilifeform: costs probably less than first class air to istanbul on one outing of mircea_popescu and his pets
asciilifeform: it is all posted publicly after all.
asciilifeform: esp. since we are not the only ones who can use 'buildroot' etc.
asciilifeform: and not after another month or three of 'recent interest'
asciilifeform: if somebody wants to get a rail car full of'em, the time to do so is probably now
asciilifeform: ... and will approach $maxint as they run out.
asciilifeform: (for anyone who slept through pogotron/pogotron-v2, the current version spawns telnetd by default on every boot)
asciilifeform: jurov: pogo won't have any management interface beyond that button? << that button (ought to) spawn a telnetd with root shell. what more management could one want ??!
asciilifeform: ^ works here
asciilifeform: (what would be involved: it triggers the backdoor - see log - then transfers over nandwrite; then payload; then fires)
asciilifeform: 'male' pogo sitting on normal lan with one of more 'females' could be manually triggered to spoodge, using the telnet shell and a util that takes argument of female's ip
asciilifeform: alternatively:
asciilifeform: what's the trigger ?
asciilifeform: that's the part i got stuck on
asciilifeform: this process would have to be triggered in some way.
asciilifeform: this would involve, at the minimum, the 'male' starting up a dhcp server prior to the 'female' being powered up
asciilifeform: (i do not presently know if the nic on pogo has auto-crossover)
asciilifeform: through crossover cable
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes, mod6, mircea_popescu, nubbins`, danielpbarron et al: is there any interest in the pheature i discussed in october (?) where one pogo would deflower another, virginal unit ?
asciilifeform: congrats nubbins` !!
asciilifeform: confirms what
asciilifeform: nanddump is also there
asciilifeform: /usr/sbin/nandwrite
asciilifeform: # which nandwrite
asciilifeform: in the path
asciilifeform wonders where everybody went... reading the sr mega-turd? hacking on pogotron? beating off rabid weasels ?
asciilifeform: l0ldustry
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
asciilifeform: otherwise the usb thing.
asciilifeform: nubbins` et al: if you have a genuine serial port on your box, something based on max232 (e.g., http://www.amazon.com/Nextrox%C2%AE-MAX232-Converter-Adapter-Module/dp/B00BXCYAO6 ) will also work
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: built pogotron yet ?
asciilifeform: step 8 - 10
asciilifeform: read the recipe again
asciilifeform: gotta 'make' after that.
asciilifeform: that part just copies configs to the correct spots, it doesn't build anything
asciilifeform: nubbins`: let me guess, already built once ?
asciilifeform: hell, we're all using '70s os
asciilifeform: like the barbarians decorating sword hilts with pieces of roman mosaic in 500 ad
asciilifeform: i suspect there will be folks worshipping '80s detritus for many, many years
asciilifeform: like the beos folks, yes
asciilifeform: (one fandangoing proggy can hose machine)
asciilifeform: msdos-era thingie, with graphics and cooperative multitasking
asciilifeform: nubbins`: risc os is an interesting '80s relic
asciilifeform: (what's a 'zebra hitler' ? it is this kind of 'historical' work. as exemplified by http://www.pbfcomics.com/209 )
asciilifeform: <mircea_popescu> jurov that piece is, roughly speaking, the result of a cat reading a mayan calendar and inputting the result into google translate. << it's actually a -double- ripoff. actually a condensed plagiarism of 'the roman guide to slave management' (j. toner) - an equally 'zebra hitler'-y work
asciilifeform: nubbins`: wai where ?!
asciilifeform off to meatspace for a spell. wants to hear if anyone tests v2 patch.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: you'd probably end up rating him '-11111 does not have sole control of private key'
asciilifeform: not 'damned linksys cheated us'
asciilifeform: when i ran across the 2MB linksys, my thought was 'linux is obese if can't fit in 2MB'
asciilifeform: as a commemorative edition, somethinglikethat
asciilifeform: they actually re-issued it a few yrs back
asciilifeform: in a cellar somewhere
asciilifeform: -everyone- has one of those
asciilifeform: and the product faded away
asciilifeform: this is rather reminiscent of how the famous linksys wrt54g hyper-bestseller slowly shrank and shrank, from 16 and then 8 and then 4 (even 2!) MB of ram, linux could no longer be used on it
asciilifeform: nubbins`: speaking of 'pink pogo' here
asciilifeform: nubbins`: that one is gone too
asciilifeform: and, the successor to this (out of print) machine is quite similar but no sata.
asciilifeform: same cost.
asciilifeform: for instance, there was at one point a pogo entirely like this one but 256M.
asciilifeform: it is interesting that the actual contents of the can has been shrinking continuously over the years
asciilifeform: (priced substantially below cost, in all likelihood)
asciilifeform: Chillum: this particular item is an oddity in this regard, because it is very clearly a loss-leader
asciilifeform: because wtf why
asciilifeform: nubbins`: notice how nobody here bothered with the 'request unlock' thing or even knows if it ever worked ☟︎
asciilifeform: does sprezzatura really call for top-notch general-purpose acting skill ?
asciilifeform: can't say for sure. but entirely possible
asciilifeform: it is 'declasse' to admit that you can make a flashlight, at a 'sprezzatura' wankfest
asciilifeform: from orlov's 'lessons' ( http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/062805_soviet_lessons_part2.shtml )
asciilifeform: them against each other, while trying to portray themselves as super-achieving entrepreneurial mavericks who can't be pinned down to a mere set of marketable skills.'
asciilifeform: ive on the subject of money, and cultivate a posh country set atmosphere, even if they are just one generation out of the coal mines. Ask them to solve a technical problem — and they will politely demur, often taking the opportunity to flash their wit with a self-deprecating joke or two. ... The natives at the top always try to standardize the job descriptions and lower the pay scale of the immigrants at the bottom, playing
asciilifeform: 'I have had a chance to observe quite a few companies in the U.S. from the inside, and have spotted a certain constancy in the staffing profile. At the top, there is a group of highly compensated senior lunch-eaters. They tend to spend all of their time pleasing each other in various ways, big and small. They often hold advanced degrees in disciplines such as Technical Schmoozing and Relativistic Bean-counting. They are obsess
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i can think of an alternate hypothesis about the flashlight thing
asciilifeform: Chillum: stock pogo comes with 'dropbear', a miniature sshd
asciilifeform: ^^^
asciilifeform: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ve23i5K334
asciilifeform: l0l where did it go
asciilifeform: !s flashlight
asciilifeform: 30 years later in this process the fucking mit grads can't make a flashlight << aha
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: "is luser luser because on windoze, << the older version of this was, iirc, 'do styes make pigs' ?
asciilifeform: yet survive.
asciilifeform: Adlai: kindergartens and mental asylums also, afaik, don't keep logs
asciilifeform: Chillum: we routinely 'argue with recordings' of one another. this is how #b-a folk handle the fact that not everyone lives at his computer