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mircea_popescu: in the present situation i'd settle for a three-file 5k loc mp-wp reduction from the current imensity.

asciilifeform: there is a reason why asciilifeform's lan switch loox like a hammock.

mircea_popescu: srsly now, way the fuck better to have that on a webserver.

mircea_popescu: except 640 px with toolbars (which are needed, long discussion i won't get into, but trilema isn't laid out the way it is because that's what came out of FG), even if you (stupidly) use just one, leaves 400px wide pix. that's a stamp.

mircea_popescu: settings belong in config files, gimme a break.

mircea_popescu: how big should the pics be ? if you scale them by hand, what do you do, use a byte of memory to save this ?

mircea_popescu: exactly like Mocky 's experience. t0 "oh, ima just make a hand cranked webotron" t1-tn : "does feature i work ?" "nope!"

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform mp-wp does a bunch of useful things, such as adnotating the img tags, resizing the image to your pre-set sizes so you never have to worry about formatting, balancing them out in directories etc etc.

mircea_popescu: hanbot well, keep good notes, maybe unroll the whole monstrosity into a single file eventually.

hanbot: is just stuffed with calls to other files. atm my goosechase sits in wp-admin/includes/media.php, wherein the suspected controlling function media_upload_form lives, consists of multiple other functions not defined in this file. i enjoy trying to sort it out but it's indeed at a snail's pace.

a111: Logged on 2018-04-15 04:19 mircea_popescu: hanbot / everyone : speaking of patches for mp-wp, here's something i'd dearly love : a MASS uploader. so you don't have to upload files one by one in the webinterface.

hanbot: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-31#1868072 << >> http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-15#1799520 fucking april. it's a travesty largely fueled by my noobishness. i've had a multi-upload form and script pair for months, been looking under pebbles in the quarry that is wp's upload process for a way to connect the dots. most recently i've been trying to map out on paper what seems to me the insane tangle of files involved in uploading --every damned file ☝︎☝︎

mircea_popescu: end not to notice anything. For now, they do not consider our actions as presenting a future danger to them. … But, if the time comes that our people's life in Eretz Yisrael will develop to a point where we are taking their place, either slightly or significantly, the natives are not going to just step aside so easily."

mircea_popescu: ening around them. But this is a grave mistake. The Arab, like all the Semites, is sharp minded and shrewd. All the townships of Syria and Eretz Yisrael are full of Arab merchants who know how to exploit the masses and keep track of everyone with whom they deal – the same as in Europe. The Arabs, especially the urban elite, see and understand what we are doing and what we wish to do on the land, but they keep quiet and pret

mircea_popescu: good for planting remain uncultivated and that's because the Arabs do not like working too much in the present for a distant future. Therefore, it is very difficult to find good land for cattle. And not only peasants, but also rich landowners, are not selling good land so easily...We who live abroad are accustomed to believing that the Arabs are all wild desert people who, like donkeys, neither see nor understand what is happ

mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo sounds liek a decent article illustration lol.

BingoBoingo: Bezos was a skinny kid who turned to doping with fake testosterone late in life. Session's replacement played Iowa football and makes some of Trump's professional wrassler friends look small

BingoBoingo: If that guy runs in 2024, who can the Democrats credibly put against him on a debate stage?

asciilifeform: ( and if it requires baking a board, process takes coupla months anyway, so why not get the ball rolling )

asciilifeform: phf: i prolly won't get a chance to actually put it to use in near term, hands pretty full with ffa; but would like to have it. if it's there to be had.

asciilifeform: iirc it's been a year+ since phf 1st mentioned it

a111: Logged on 2018-10-15 02:44 phf: asciilifeform: i actually forgot! i'm swamped right now, but can you remind me again in about two weeks, i have a thing for you from the dig that will help with the little piece of silicon you have

asciilifeform: even includes a built-in benchmark, of sorts

BingoBoingo: Then again in this land where you have to register to import packaged goods, it is in a traditional US style paper envelope as opposed to a clear plastic "sobre" the Uruguayos insist on using

BingoBoingo: I suspect it's more of a cultural thing. Someone set the basket of letters in not exactly the right spot. Being ever so off to the side it was studiously ignored because civil servants here "work to rules" deviating from the rules only when their incompetence intervenes.

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: in usa, erry so often one hears of a defrocking of a postman who stashed letters in his cellar instead of delivering, 'will do'em later!', sometimes years' worth

BingoBoingo: It probably sat in a pile and the pile was only recently acknowledged

BingoBoingo: What happened between the USPS postmark and the October 30th Correo Uruguayo stamp is a mystery

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: it went as message-in-a-bottle and oceanic currents finally changed, or wat..

asciilifeform: ( rsa on z80, 6502, etc. is ~nonstarter, even if one 'banks' the address lines to give enuff mem, the 8bit buggers lack a multiplier, so you get 'egyptian' speed )

asciilifeform: 68k was imho a pretty great all-around allpurpose cpu. and -- mega-unsurprise -- ~unobtainable today...

asciilifeform: 'A long time ago, in the late eighties, I myself tried to develop such a system, on a home-made 68K with a cp/m executive (the file system was on a second, z80 processor, that had a floppy drive). It's name was 'li' meaning a half lisp (but it had a simple, non-optimizing JIT compiler that directly generated 68K code)...' << this is at least the 3rd fella i've corresponded with who 'i tried to build lispm in '80s out of 68k'

mircea_popescu: Mocky the third ? that's a sad loss to humanilulz!

asciilifeform: diana_coman: yea, d00d is a greybeard medical doc

asciilifeform: but i suspect asciilifeform lives under a curse, nobody but the redditards ever deign to show

Mocky: asciilifeform, I was almost a III but my mom won that argument

BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: These were some pretty atypical jews. Lived a 15 minute drive from town in house with normal town sized yard surrounded by farm on all sides

BingoBoingo: Meanwhile in the hard luck files: https://archive.is/o0tiw Dude had his thing living off da fat O'da land. Then he hitchhiked in a cop car.

asciilifeform: (i.e. recycling dead man's name is a-ok)

BingoBoingo: Well, II was a train conductor and him and his wife were about as 70's white trash stereotype as could be in the 1990's

BingoBoingo: I don't recall a IV, at least that advertised it, but I knew a Jewish kid with a III affixed

asciilifeform: 'nn' is a creeping germanicism imho

asciilifeform: also lulzily, some of the groups in usa have this custom, but they also affix numbers, e.g. i knew a few folx who 'III', and at least 1 fella who 'IV'

a111: Logged on 2016-08-03 15:40 phf: the whole font changes meaning take two is coming from the japanese. they were actively promoting this idea back during early unicode standardization days, where there was a strong drive to include every idiosyncratic version of kanji in the standard, because "that's how my family writes it in our last name".

mircea_popescu: before i forget : re http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-03#1513931 this item can be exemplared in ro, also. sane clans used the same name for the firstborn, my father was mircea like my grandfather ; but some used vocalic alternation for incomprehensible reason, so the above linked guy's son wasn't ion but "ioan". which is a thoroughly imaginary halph diphtong nonsense ~specifically created for the purpose~. there's no such fucki ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2018-10-22 20:35 asciilifeform: was speaking of where it recalculates what is by all rights a 100% constant value, 9000 times/hr, eternally

Mocky: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-08#1870186 >> I had a toaster with cancel button a few years ago was just this. Once you add the 'feature' of smart toasting whereby turning the knob after toasting has started has no effect and then once you further add the feature that the lift handle is mechanically locked down and can't be lifted during the cycle, then yes, once you accept those things you then 'need' the red button ☝︎

trinque: http://161.0.121.250 << hey all, opened up a public toilet for txn. probably doesn't even work. enjoy!

lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-12#1642735 << relatedly, to add anecdotal evidence to this thread I can confirm: do not try and tempt fate by leaving these suckers in.. it feels like a vice-grip has been slowly tightening on my skull for the last few weeks.. ☝︎

trinque: that's a fun one; good luck lobbes

lobbes: in other news: I'm going to be getting all 4 of my wisdom teeth yanked out tomorrow. While I'll be near my terminal, I may be out of commission for a few days. I'll be following the logs as usual (assuming I'm not knocked out from pain meds)

a111: Logged on 2018-11-08 15:51 mod6: i can see that arg, asciilifeform. lobbes are you opposed to an !Xclose <auction_number> : which would accept the current highest bid? mircea_popescu, et. al. is this a good idea?

lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-08#1870228 << the way !Xcancel works right now 'behind the scenes' is that it inserts the <auction_number> into the "closed" table. This isn't much different than when an auction "resolves" normally (<auction_number> also inserted into same table), the only difference is that the bot doesn't "announce" a winner when !Xcancel is used ☝︎

mircea_popescu: i'd be surprised if, over the entirety of conde nast "portofolio", there's a man-day per day of actual attention available. http://trilema.com/2015/okcupidcom-the-dating-site/#selection-45.141-45.160 is in no different shape, and none of the smaller spamfarms differ in any sense.

a111: Logged on 2018-11-01 20:53 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: happens to be exactly what i set out to; on top of that, even got a gpg extractor (currently in py, but slated for adaization) , precisely for same

asciilifeform: a++ gerontocracy, would brezhnev again!1

BingoBoingo: And in breaking news, Ruth Bader Ginsburg's ribs. She's on the wrong side of 85... Trump is probably getting a third Supreme Court nominee soon.

mod6: Sounds like a deal, thanks a ton jurov!

mircea_popescu: yes, well, in that case "i'm busy tomorrow" would carry a lot less water.

asciilifeform: diana_coman: i'm sorta used to the 'eek', having a daytime saecular work that happens 100% in sewer

diana_coman: quite! and unfortunately I'll still have the works in the sewer in parallel for quite a while

mircea_popescu: mod6 you can close it prematurely by convention, i guess. there's good reason not to have a dedicated button, however.

diana_coman: I'll play a bit with those unchecked unions too though, I hadn't looked at them

diana_coman: I still can't quite see the reason to make a stream in order to write a known-size record to a known-size array of octets though

asciilifeform: there's exactly 2 ways to do it -- the above conversion mechanisms, or the stream (read nqb to see how) . cuz transmutation of data types is a specifically dangerous act, that is deliberately not made easy in ada

asciilifeform: hence in 'nqb' , i used a (custom-sewn) stream

asciilifeform: according to the 'rationale' document, serialization is ~the~ reason why streams are even a thing

asciilifeform: but as for the q of 'can haz this without any smell of c sulfur' , the answr is no, because entire concept is slightly antithetical to adaism, and so you gotta 'cheat' at least a little in order to permit it.

diana_coman: hm, I kept thinking for some reason that there was a 3rd way (i.e. NOT streams and not unchecked) but I just did not see it; I'll have a look at the unchecked unions

asciilifeform: diana_coman: either this, or the 'unchecked conversion' you had earlier (given that you specify a fixed size for the record, you will always end up with the given number of octets, it has no failure mode)

mod6: i can see that arg, asciilifeform. lobbes are you opposed to an !Xclose <auction_number> : which would accept the current highest bid? mircea_popescu, et. al. is this a good idea? ☟︎

mod6: Not sure if cancel-toast would untoast the auction. I'd like there to be a record of the auction, so I'm fine to let it close by expiry.

mod6: asciilifeform: there is an !Xcancel, but not a close.

mod6: Also, please send me a btc addy to pay you at, will send the coins within 24 hours -- probably later today for sure.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: actually i can think of 1 industrial tool that is, to a degree, 'reversible' in the thermodynamic sense, even ~after~ finger went in. the thread cutter. standard instruction , if idjit gets his finger in, is to get him to stay put while the thing is slowly put in reverse, then ends up only with heavy bruise, rather than skinned (if pulled straight out)

asciilifeform: ( 'stop' button on toaster is still a lol, thing has power cord, and i can't picture why you would want to cut the current faster than it takes to yank the cord, it ain't a saw )

asciilifeform: i dun think there even ~is~ a power tool that dun fit the 'paradigmatic enthalpic process' formulation

a111: Logged on 2018-11-08 14:46 mircea_popescu: however, you eminently can't cancel toasting, it's the paradigmatic enthalpic process, and anyone with a college education (such as, presumably, anyone involved in the production of objects, and in general in any practical portion of white civilisation) would be aware.

mircea_popescu: as per "the soldier whio thinks he'll win makes a better soldier than the soldier who thinks he'll lose -- though nobody yet walked on a battlefield and won". or w/e, replace "gambler" for "soldier" if you prefer.

mircea_popescu: however, you eminently can't cancel toasting, it's the paradigmatic enthalpic process, and anyone with a college education (such as, presumably, anyone involved in the production of objects, and in general in any practical portion of white civilisation) would be aware. ☟︎

lobbes: am I the only one who has seen/used a cancel button on a toaster before? Put toast in for $maxtime, wait until it looks/smells done, hit button and bam, perfect toast.

asciilifeform: 'the toaster has a cancel button on it,' << lol!!

BingoBoingo: Fox is Murdoch's though it has cucked a lot since he handed it to the kids. CNN is buffalo guy Captain Planet's weird fetish project

BingoBoingo: And in still other post election weird, a CNN stooge touched a female whitehouse intern during an altercation and had his press credential to get into the white house revoked

BingoBoingo: In other US election weird, a KKKalifornia to permanently be off by one hour won.

BingoBoingo: Not ancient. Front line star if we get a regional war down here

BingoBoingo: And F-35 means Brasil is going to sell the Super Tucano to the US to support the aging A-10 fleet because F-35 can't help

asciilifeform: asciilifeform's brother was stuck working with ce for a while, informs that among such wretches it is pronounced : 'wince'

mircea_popescu: well yes. it is after all a http://trilema.com/2018/democracy-sucks-the-two-thousand-four-hundred-and-change-years-old-version/

asciilifeform: sorta how the massive 'social security' tax is still collected 100%, even tho nobody with half a brain expects to see the pension thing

mircea_popescu: bout a third of the total.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: roundin' up judges needs a stalin, not a trump

BingoBoingo: A+++ strep throat ER visit

BingoBoingo: Because you haven't become a socio of the mutualista Española yet

mircea_popescu: for some reason arresting a third of the judges "unthinkable" in the us, even as having such a thing as "activist judges" perfectly thinkable, and totally not the same as corruption. cuz it's only corruption if it fucks over pantsuit, see, otherwise it's "activism".

BingoBoingo: Not to mention with blue party narrowly holding the House he is in a position to rip of the blue party's balls with cannabis legalization by pushing further on it than the dems are willing to go. Sessions has proved too... southern gentleman to help Trump sell it.

mircea_popescu: you can look on trump as a smokeless slow burn erdogan, in this context, it entirely delivers.

BingoBoingo: Meanwhile Session is still burdened by the decision he made to recuse himself from any question touching Russia because he talked to a Russian once apparently without wearing a wire/