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asciilifeform: the trick is not crapple-specific, either, most new laptop includes 'thunderbolt' plug, which is simply external pci
asciilifeform: 'Also included in this release is the manual for the CIA's "NightSkies 1.2" a "beacon/loader/implant tool" for the Apple iPhone. Noteworthy is that NightSkies had reached 1.2 by 2008, and is expressly designed to be physically installed onto factory fresh iPhones. i.e the CIA has been infecting the iPhone supply chain of its targets since at least 2008.'
BingoBoingo: Is the growth his nose?
asciilifeform: in his head that causes behavioral problems.'
asciilifeform: in other lulz, https://archive.is/QUcCh >> 'U.S.-Israeli teen arrested in Israel over bomb threats to Jewish centers'. 'A young Israeli man who also holds U.S. citizenship was arrested in Israel on Thursday on suspicion of making dozens of hoax bomb threats against Jewish community centers in the United States and several other countries. At a court hearing near Tel Aviv, the suspect's defense attorney said the young man has a growth
mircea_popescu: aite then.
asciilifeform: put von neumann, finally , to bed.
asciilifeform: put pci, dma, usb, etc. to bed, for good.
asciilifeform: a burn-off of the accumulated stupidity to date, would be a great start.
mircea_popescu: yes well, if your notion of "intel dies" === "the end of stupidity in any and all palpable form" then surely the roman empire still lives embodied in general motors.
asciilifeform: in re intel, it gotta die, but if it 'dies' merely by getting a chinese board of directors, but continues to produce ye olde x86 liquishit, with 35 yrs of idiocy built on top -- then didn't really die, not yet.
mircea_popescu: this isn't teh actual word tho. dun rewrite teh bible!
asciilifeform: 'house burns, but at least the bedbugs die'
asciilifeform: understand, i very much wish to live to see mircea_popescu's prediction come alive
asciilifeform: dun become tru simply by mircea_popescu saying it.
asciilifeform: point being that it is one of the great american giants, like GE
mircea_popescu: and in this interval, they lost the whole market, all they got left is chips.
asciilifeform: ibm sold tabulators in 1890s
mircea_popescu: don't be ridiculous. the ibm at came out in the 80s.
mircea_popescu: "the demographics" were going to keep clinton in office forever so these schmucks could pay the mortgages they made aged 28 back in 1994. hurr.
mircea_popescu: but the point being : nintendo utterly owned a market, which some years later had the n64 people killed for used as paperweights. sony owned the market, then lost to microsoft, and so following. this notion that intel has a hope in hell is about as ludicrous as the nonsense career bureaucrats in washington built their lives on.
mircea_popescu: actually to this day, famously bad controllers.
asciilifeform: was quite enough to nail it.
mircea_popescu: yeah. it suffered mightily in what i called "final engineering". great food badly packaged so to speak
asciilifeform: upstack , re 'dreamcast' -- asciilifeform's brother was involved in making game for it. the hardware was superb.
mircea_popescu: they can worry about that.
asciilifeform: ( and how to collect, from vermin ? what do mice and rats have, that you might want ? )
asciilifeform: or is this fyootoor-tech.
mircea_popescu: way i figure it intel owes tmsr about 1bn in license fees, royalties and late penalties.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform good for it. whatever the delinquent debtor says matters little.
mircea_popescu: anyway. this'll do fine for a stock answer to the people inquiring why $random-"standard" isn't supported. the account is delinquent. they owe a lot of money and are trying to defraud us of it.
asciilifeform: unfortunately merely talking about 'monopolist scum must die' -- does not kill any; intel still would answer, if octopus could speak, 'aaah lol, have fun porting eulora to abacus'
mircea_popescu: do things right.
mircea_popescu: of course you don't support it anyway. obviously. BUT IT FIRST PAYS THROUGH THE TEETH FOR THIS!
mircea_popescu: "w3c" wants to set web standards, it'd better PAY UP FOR THEM BEING SUPPORTED
asciilifeform: it simply gotta die, pay has 0 to do with it.
mircea_popescu: because i sure as fuck don't want "free trade" and "open whatever" and "accessiblity" if what that means is that intel gets to rule it.
asciilifeform: dunno why anybody would want to prop it up even for pay.
mircea_popescu: this notion that i will support the wintel FOR FREE is the lolz of all time. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: the point here being, again, to restate : if the developer didn't meet a minimum value of sales, sega paid the difference.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform they called the first playstation psx back i nthe day. then they cannibalized it later on.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you're thinking of tyhe ps2
mircea_popescu: SEGA PAID THE DIFFERENCE.
mircea_popescu: so sega, in desperation, introduced a "minimum sales program". whereby, if the developer didn't meet a minimum value of sales
asciilifeform: ( maybe mircea_popescu was thinking of sega's 'saturn' ? )
mircea_popescu: THEN, the dreamcast came out in 1999. sold well originally but then flagged, for all sorts of reasons. to do with final engineering and social effects (their controllers sucked, their cds were fragile, the average market prefered cheap and abundant psx games to excellent but rare and expensive dc stuff.)
mircea_popescu: in random lulz, from the 90s : psx came out in 1994 iirc, and utterly wiped the market. half the developers active were caught with excessive 16 bit cartridge inventory and within 18 months were bankrupt. it owned so hardcore, esp with ff7 coming out for it, that for ~ 3 years there were no new offerings in the console market.
asciilifeform: unrelatedly, asciilifeform has been greatly enjoying a truly hilarious biography of kim il-sung : http://militera.lib.ru/bio/balkansky_a01/index.html
asciilifeform: ( twist: 'fyootoor tech', mircea_popescu will reveal, is gurls with abacus )
asciilifeform: and -- for completeness -- Fyootoor Tech that mircea_popescu knows about, and asciilifeform -- does not.
asciilifeform: this, afaik, leaves 'get considerably reduced expectations of what comp can do, and start making out of 1980s parts, and TTL' -- which is great, except no bitcoin
asciilifeform: the gabriel_laddel approach -- 'oh hey i'll just pave over the swamp, nothing will ever fall through the pavement' -- also does not work, and is quite destructive to the sanity of folks who attempt it
asciilifeform: ye olde chip racket, as exemplified by xilinx (see thread), where 'by the time the docs leak, not only we stopped making it 15 years ago but go and buy even secondhand one!' -- remains operational.
mircea_popescu: just mp-style "i can see the future but can't explain it to you, back to work."
asciilifeform: 'is mircea_popescu referring to some concrete approach, or just a generic prof.brin-style 'THINK!YOUMAGGOTS''
asciilifeform: not missed , that's what prompted the line of thought
a111: Logged on 2017-03-23 16:41 mircea_popescu: there's many possible approaches to this ford we're not at yet.
asciilifeform: i thought about getting one with amd g-series -- and was at the point of seriously attempting it when the latter began to show signs of death
asciilifeform: btw mircea_popescu baking a pc-style mobo is not expensive, our existing pcb people could quite readily do it. the problem is 'out of what'. the necessary docs are not available, never leaked, nor the firmware signing keys (still not phuctored!1111 damn)
asciilifeform: ( if not today -- tomorrow. )
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asciilifeform: they went to tlb cache, and other nonsense to make winblowz slightly less 'molasses'.
asciilifeform: the cheap transistors -- did not go to make bounds-checking memory, no
asciilifeform: and this is precisely what happened to the pc !
asciilifeform: symbolic of the traditional idiocy of the 'rich poor' man
mircea_popescu: poverty, and it's daughters : ignorance ; and the expectation that the state is good.
asciilifeform: ( pretty sure we had 'the' dma thread not long ago )
asciilifeform: it is an artifact of poverty, quite like those sheet metal huts the half-monkey folk in brazil live in.
mircea_popescu: yeah well no more of that.
asciilifeform: like the rest of it.
asciilifeform: video ended up on main system bus of pc, out of transistor poverty.
mircea_popescu: yeah i just meant re the fucking video bus
asciilifeform: the only thing the console knew how to send back, was keystrokes, and optionally audio-in
asciilifeform: (the 36xx console has a motherfucking m68k JUST FOR THE AUDIO - 16 bits! m68k was selling as ~cpu~ in other boxes)
mircea_popescu: make it one way only! get all that shit out of the box and into the display where it can hurt nothing!
mircea_popescu: for the other --- THERE IS NO REASON FOR BITMAPERIZWER TO TALK BACK!!11
asciilifeform: the bolix folx got this right in 1981.
mircea_popescu: for one thing.
asciilifeform: turning vectorade into bitmapola really oughat be happening inside, or at least near, the lcd -- rather than in the comp.
mircea_popescu: in any case by 2017 we rerally can relax re the "omfg television set" marketing criteria of 1987
asciilifeform: 'victory of the cockroaches'
a111: Logged on 2017-03-23 00:45 mircea_popescu: it is much worse to have a town of 1000 populated by 500 idiots with idiots' tastes and 20 bucks to spend each
asciilifeform: the micro warz were a textbook case of http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-23#1631399 ☝︎
asciilifeform: aha, via the above process
asciilifeform: (and destroyed the maker)
asciilifeform: amiga -- did; but this 'bolixed' it into a price point where it was outcompeted by the 64 !
mircea_popescu: which is why amiga made better computers than ameritrends back in 1992.
mircea_popescu: large portion of the whole mess is actually trying to capitalize on the fact that the killer micros came with their own television set
asciilifeform: sort of where i ended up, in this line of thought
a111: Logged on 2017-03-20 20:46 mircea_popescu: in other lulz, the state of casual gaming is completely fucked up. so other than utter throwaways, stuff that looks like someone's undegrad project, the ~entire market of ipad-likes (stuff that works in the browser, or else via a "light" client for windows/mac, or else as a ipad/android etc app) is wholly like this :
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that's ok, if i feel the need to http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-20#1629701 i'll just pick up an ipad. ☝︎
asciilifeform: you wouldn't want to pump audio, or animation, etc over it.
mircea_popescu: wich is why i say, may be good to have rs aside.
asciilifeform: the 1 serious problem with everything-via-nic, is latency, it is an overhead-heavy thing, and intrinsically buffered
asciilifeform: (there are konsoomer-ready boxes for this, i had a bunch when working with the lab robot)
mircea_popescu: might be advantageous to have electrically separate high and low.
asciilifeform: you only really need that 1 hole.
a111: Logged on 2017-03-23 00:12 asciilifeform: if i ever make the fpgaized thing, it sure as fuck won't bother trying to drive an lcd or eat keyboard, wtf, just speak x11.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i told you we have the concepts.
mircea_popescu: and yes, put the monitor through the eth card too. bs special bus.