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mircea_popescu: "but mp, she wasn't in the situation room!!11" hurr.
mircea_popescu: let alone all the wanna-bes looking in through the front window.
mircea_popescu: it's not nearly as unilateral as all that. 20yo afghani female is actually competent and appreciated for her competence. this is a damn sight more than anything hilary clinton ever achieved in her sad, contorted stump of a life
ben_vulpes: "fucking what? you need your own leagues to even take a podium spot."
ben_vulpes: i saw this poster with some female athlete's face and burst out laughing the other day
ben_vulpes: may quite well be the case that babe who lives to obey and satisfy her man is far happier than careerist, independent, "i'll buy whatever dumb vehicle my emotions push me to!", but have fun making that sale to the americans attached to equality-at-any-cost
mircea_popescu: pretty sure average afghani woman happier than anything watching "friends"
ben_vulpes: nah, he's been drinking progesterone from the recycled water for so long he's practically a woman
mircea_popescu: for one thing the food's lots better.
mircea_popescu: honestly i'd be muych surprised if the average bloke in the us wouldn't actually prefer living as 1997 average afghanistani instead.
mircea_popescu: why use the mechanisms that work (but they work! which is unfair!11) when you could use no mechanisms at all and dream a little dream of things.
ben_vulpes: old thread
ben_vulpes: and entirely unsurprisingly, the slippage on the country-wide market-clearing buy order doesn't show up in price (no, that'd hose the inflation numbers) but in crapflation
ben_vulpes: which is right in line with other threads elsewhere about how we got cvasi-marxism, where we vote ourselves more stuff every year but what gets delivered is a plastic sham of what was ordered. looks like everything is going to be free, but that 'everything' just serves to keep us anchored to our pocketscreens
ben_vulpes: ofc what that 1.2k per annum buys is depressingly further downmarket from the traditional afghani lifestyle
mircea_popescu: afghanistan fambly lived happily for 1k/year pre usg tardation, for instance. ☟︎
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: had a few amusing scenarios for how 'ubi' might play out: "massive army", "un camps, did you know they've got refugee camps down to the point where it costs 1200 us/year to mostly keep them from killing each other?", "genocide" etc
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform eventually the kingdom of brazil defeated them and he left yea.
mircea_popescu: anyway. strong law-and-order ticket, repressed the bums (social group that today in the us masquerades as "students") and so on.
mircea_popescu: pretty much throughout, actually. dude was like 80 when he died.
mircea_popescu: to this day it burns the libertard, the fact that no, democracy is NOT popular. rosas is.
mircea_popescu: but, notably, he was unanimously voted in power. something stalin ever tried to pretend to and emulate. guy had it naturally, people fucking loved him.
mircea_popescu: pretty much the only time argentina won over england.
asciilifeform: betcha the chinese would shoot one if there even could be such a thing today.
asciilifeform: de rosas << the .ar stalin neh
mircea_popescu: meanwhile the only point of argentine history worth even casual inspection is de rosas. who -- very pointedly NOT democracia. the contrary of democracia.
mircea_popescu: in related lulz : girl here got invited to a 5 day "history of argentina" "workshop". the schedule ? 4 days discussing "democracia".
mircea_popescu: and last i checked you had to be in their party presidium whatever to qualify for deed issuance in colonies.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes, but part and parcel of that algo is that... real estate in the us... is not worth money.
asciilifeform: barbed wire , mine field, machine gun for the locals who are slow to get the message; imported slaves working inside, extracting molybdenum or whichever.
asciilifeform: the reliable pill is of course the chinese-in-africa algo
mircea_popescu: the us peons, much like the argentines (and every passing month more like the argentines) are not actually worth quartering the carcass.
mircea_popescu: you know, chumpatrons are a thing, yes, but there's no 0 cost extraction. there's plenty of chumps who, while carrying nonzero chumpatronium, are also worth below 0 on the chumpatron raw materials market.
asciilifeform: for so long as there's any money in usa, it is 'worth money', purely mechanically, that's how money is collected from the peons
mircea_popescu: bout a third of which goes towards supporting the nonsensical notion that real estate in the us is actually worth money.
mircea_popescu: of course it would. currently they dispose of about 1.5k a month.
asciilifeform: ( from luser pov -- price is 'exactly same', landlord simply collects the usg payola )
a111: Logged on 2017-03-24 13:48 mircea_popescu: yeah, last ditch desperate attempt to keep the "real estate values" from going to the ~1 yuan / sqft reality sees them at.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-24#1632315 << hard to picture that giving lusers 1k$/mo ea. would visibly nudge the pricing from lizard pov ☝︎
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/4441079067885945F7C03C3BB9E8095A9892FC0F75477ACB5BF267F82E177ADD << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1687...4569 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '217.145.194.72 (ssh-rsa key from 217.145.194.72 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (LaszloCukPaka.MadNet.sk. SK NI)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/4441079067885945F7C03C3BB9E8095A9892FC0F75477ACB5BF267F82E177ADD << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1709...7889 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '217.145.194.72 (ssh-rsa key from 217.145.194.72 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (LaszloCukPaka.MadNet.sk. SK NI)
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/once-upon-a-time-in-cairo/ << Trilema - Once upon a time in Cairo
shinohai remembers when reddit did a ubi "experiment" that gave PENNIES in Bitcoin to schmucks, was shut down by Ellen Pao
mircea_popescu: yeah, last ditch desperate attempt to keep the "real estate values" from going to the ~1 yuan / sqft reality sees them at. ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-03-24 06:21 ben_vulpes: (paraphrasing) "ubi is great. pay off the taker class, and let the rich white guys who control all the capital and wrote the deep learning shit that took the bottom out of the commodity labor market make all the resource allocation decisions."
Framedragger: :D totally
mircea_popescu: on questioning he had this to say : "tis a fair cop."
mircea_popescu submits qntra story, "terrorist going by Framedragger on deep web nicked by vigilant state agentura over DRUGS and CHILD PRONZ SHIPPED THROUGH STATE MAIL!!11 HONEST HE DID!"
Framedragger: (i think it's just because there's a customs fee to be paid but will see - lulzy)
Framedragger: never happened before, will be fun to inquire why
ben_vulpes: (paraphrasing) "ubi is great. pay off the taker class, and let the rich white guys who control all the capital and wrote the deep learning shit that took the bottom out of the commodity labor market make all the resource allocation decisions." ☟︎
ben_vulpes: jeeeesus the bruce sterling sxsw talk is fun
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/1D1931707C20DD7D7544512D8996E77CB83EAA7332A20F0B2975F28A9B21CF83 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1724...8379 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '83.163.154.248 (ssh-rsa key from 83.163.154.248 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (a83-163-154-248.adsl.xs4all.nl. NL)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/1D1931707C20DD7D7544512D8996E77CB83EAA7332A20F0B2975F28A9B21CF83 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1375...1783 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '83.163.154.248 (ssh-rsa key from 83.163.154.248 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (a83-163-154-248.adsl.xs4all.nl. NL)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/89F2BE8C94DAD5488600E218B2222796FDD09E4DCBE514B8950303B881F296E7 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1597...5647 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '80.174.144.169 (ssh-rsa key from 80.174.144.169 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (80.174.144.169.dyn.user.ono.com. ES B CT)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/89F2BE8C94DAD5488600E218B2222796FDD09E4DCBE514B8950303B881F296E7 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1428...2217 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '80.174.144.169 (ssh-rsa key from 80.174.144.169 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (80.174.144.169.dyn.user.ono.com. ES B CT)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/DD0E3BF781D9B479A5A11759C4734E7CE1B0337D61A5BCA40DA463A043E15F5B << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1523...0437 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '87.121.14.60 (ssh-rsa key from 87.121.14.60 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (smokeping.telecablenet.com. BG 13)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/DD0E3BF781D9B479A5A11759C4734E7CE1B0337D61A5BCA40DA463A043E15F5B << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1489...1257 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '87.121.14.60 (ssh-rsa key from 87.121.14.60 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (smokeping.telecablenet.com. BG 13)
BingoBoingo: In other news thermoplastic hose clamps on plasticar are still holding 100% of fluid one day and ~1/4 tank of gas later
asciilifeform: he got all of the rev1 units
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Well, other than danielpbarron
phf: on recommendation of qntra i bought a copy of "The Camp of The Saints". i'm hoping it'll teach me about the great again
ben_vulpes: do forgive the relentless agw drum-beatin', the photos are awesome
BingoBoingo: Arrived earlier this week
BingoBoingo: Also ty asciilifeform and mircea_popescu for getting a pretty little FUCKGOAT to my mailing address
trinque: so we're doing this thing where we're extras, while he convinces himself he's doing fine?
gabriel_laddel_p: and to be clear - the only reason I had that LSD is because someone I've never met gave it to me. for free.
gabriel_laddel_p: BingoBoingo: and what, pray tell does "drug like a gentleman" look like?
BingoBoingo: <gabriel_laddel_p> BingoBoingo: "I should study more" isn't a winning idea. GTFO. << Please study more drugs. Gain experience. Maybe things work out for you and can do the right about face learning to drug like a gentleman.
ben_vulpes: yeah that's not a particularly good pose
gabriel_laddel_p: ben_vulpes: exactly. You said "shame she can't pose", I started to hunt for _that exact photo_ and then you dropped it into the logs
ben_vulpes: gabriel_laddel_p: hm? that's from your link
gabriel_laddel_p: ben_vulpes: I your taste.
gabriel_laddel_p: asciilifeform: I never wanted to be a great inventor. Still don't.
trinque: yeah I worked for the alcoholic waiting for meaning in his life long enough
gabriel_laddel_p: trinque: making money is easy. making money doing something _meaningful_ is the difficult part.
trinque: gabriel_laddel_p: you do realize that there are several folks here that have made money doing exactly the kind of consulting I described?
mircea_popescu: not so sure that's a sane comparison.
ben_vulpes: but at least the meth is burning the timid out: https://68.media.tumblr.com/b3c13481af4b0bd8b00da01226e327fe/tumblr_olsuewX3Bs1vhml3xo1_1280.jpg
trinque: the chorus of "when will you learn" is part of the masturbation
trinque: the thing about addicts is that it's their *entire* pattern of behaving, defines the whole thing
trinque: he's just here to argue with himself to charge up the courage to I dunno, do a bump of meth, or not do a bump of meth, or w/e
asciilifeform: i could tell gabriel_laddel_p that when i was a small boy, i also wanted somebody to go straight to 'great inventing' without all thar book larnin'
mircea_popescu: that's what they told flaubert also!
trinque: gabriel_laddel_p: your "I will sell computers" is never going to happen.
phf: my solutions to problems like that don't usually involve "bring in a 40mb package". i'd write a top level handler, that shows a modal x11 based repl/restart machinery. sort of poor man's genera ☟︎
mircea_popescu: i like how he keeps picking random people to be aggressive with.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: From what I understand "Acid Trip Jackpot Ideas" are like Elliot's powerball tickets...
gabriel_laddel_p: phf: if you have ideas of what is to be done when the whole CLIM process freezes, please, do let me know.
gabriel_laddel_p: phf: also, errors in the CLIM debugger need to go somewhere.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the depressing part, d00d seems to be 'chasing dragon', appears to think that the Ultimate Dope is waiting, somewhere, to be found, wunderwaffen, will bring victory.
gabriel_laddel_p: phf: nobody is going to drop all of their emacs packages & workflow overnight to learn a new system. Emacs is going to stick around until new hardware is made.
BingoBoingo: Well if you aren't sure drugs aren't part of problem keeping you from a mailing address feel free to keep trying them.
phf: well, i wouldn't go as far as playing nicely either. you have a clim editor, that you can theoretically extend in all kinds of interesting ways, yet you're still using it in combination with the emacs, etc.
gabriel_laddel_p: BingoBoingo: and they suck enough at life to end up in NA...
BingoBoingo: And some of those GIRLS at NA meetings might have places for sleeping!
gabriel_laddel_p: phf: even if I gave you a list of all the packages, it would take ~6months to get everything playing nicely.
asciilifeform: i had nfi what brousentsov's thing existed in engl.
phf: but there was none of that, because there wasn't actually anything being done. i think it would be a lot more impressive if you setup a non trivial task and showed how masamune makes that task easier to perform ☟︎
gabriel_laddel_p: asciilifeform: it remains. Eg, presently reading - Brousentsov's Ternary Principle, Bergman's Number System and Ternary Mirror-symmetrical Arithmetic