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punkman: the detached sig becomes the body of a new deed, included in bundles as usual
assbot: Logged on 04-06-2014 00:08:26; asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the buggers' traditional defense is to pretend that the event was a non-event - or, if this is impractical, to continue living in an imaginary world where they 'scooped' the story first, and all of the 'unsanctioned' discussion never happened.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yeah, because the scams hadn't already been cracked down upon a year ago, right here.
mircea_popescu: punkman so basically what, it verifies an alt-sig for the body of a prev deed ?
punkman: "Keirns was doing what came naturally. He had a business idea, and he created a fund."
asciilifeform: '...a crackdown that could affect promising Bitcoin 2.0 projects such as Ethereum, MaidSafe, and Counterparty.'
punkman: it just goes in as a regular deed, but punkbot knows how to verify sig
punkman: here's a thought: .sign AQLSTVsF http://paste.com/detached_sig.txt ☟︎
Adlai: indeed, i'd like to deal with at most one turd at a time
asciilifeform said this for a reason.
mircea_popescu: im not paying for a week of graybeard to go into its guts tyvm.
Adlai: pure speculation: it caches the list of -f patterns, then goes over the input lines, testing all patterns on each line. this would have a sharp performance drop as the patterns overflow caches.
mircea_popescu: shouldn't grep -v -f (x rand(x)) y rand(y) be a function of x*y ?
mircea_popescu: is this for a good reason or just bad gnutella ?
mircea_popescu: at which point ppl are like wtf, this is some sort of a kindergarten act ?! who ever heard of this
asciilifeform: and who gave half a rat's arse after.
mircea_popescu: the woman, being also a mother, took some money with her for her children.
mircea_popescu: eventually, as things got out of control they ran off in a helicopter
assbot: So I went to open a checking account today...How these banks have stayed in business this long is beyond reason. : Bitcoin
Adlai: https://pay.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/239wv9/so_i_went_to_open_a_checking_account_todayhow/
Adlai: passports as private key... remind me of some gag where a bitcoiner gets some "paper wallets" for his fiat account and discovers that his keys are printed in cleartext on every page
asciilifeform: that's a better formulation.
mircea_popescu: but i mean the passport comes as a temp freenode:#bitcoin-otc:blabla string
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: from my first impression, it looked like some savage found a piece of our microscope left in the jungle
assbot: Logged on 04-06-2014 00:08:26; asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the buggers' traditional defense is to pretend that the event was a non-event - or, if this is impractical, to continue living in an imaginary world where they 'scooped' the story first, and all of the 'unsanctioned' discussion never happened.
Adlai: mircea_popescu: "is to pay" is a stronger statement than "if you pay, ..."
punkman: well even if I keep 450 copies, would be nice to detect it and present a special page with the document and a list of signatures
mircea_popescu: disk space and bw increase at 100% a year yo.
mircea_popescu: <Adlai> "absolved from all allegiance to any entity… is to pay a tax into the coffers of the Bitcoin Foundation" << you gotta re-read.
mircea_popescu: scams as geological features now, what's next, libertardism as a natural satellite ?
asciilifeform: 'If you don’t like the Bitcoin Foundation, you could start a new one, right? Sure, absolutely. Just like you could start a new river Thames. Have a shovel. Start digging.' << lol!
asciilifeform: i don't remember what other people wanted, but i would like a hosting vendor who is in wot.
Adlai: "absolved from all allegiance to any entity… is to pay a tax into the coffers of the Bitcoin Foundation"
PeterL: ;;rate danielpbarron 1 https://twitter.com/danielpbarron seems like a nice guy, calls out scammers
mircea_popescu: PeterL hey listen, can you make a website for the scoopbot bot ? put it under blogs.bitcoin-assets.com liek before ?
assbot: There should be, ideally, a qntra for every topic, where experts simply tell the truth, plainly, in form and style. Would people get it?
mircea_popescu: that's a new one.
mircea_popescu: and can it put say 32 bytes so obtained off each deed in a " ; " separated list that it pastes here ?
bounce: you don't get why that's a bummer? that's really bad.
mircea_popescu: Pierre_Rochard> for example: amazon would pay little to no tax on profits. Yet their consuming lots of benefits from the state (presumably) << i dunno how that is supposed to stand. if they're not making a profit then their users are deriving all the benefit.
mircea_popescu: <bounce> bit of a bummer, I'd say. << whyssat ?
mircea_popescu: <Pierre_Rochard> “pay a tax in sum of 0.1% or a hundred thousand satoshi per full Bitcoin realised” <- Is this tax on profit or revenues? << profit
ben_vulpes: bounce: you want discussion of it? a wiki?
bounce: bit of a bummer, I'd say.
Pierre_Rochard: ben_vulpes: both tax on revenues and tax on profits have their pros and cons. So I’m assuming the answer to my question is that it’s a tax on profits
ben_vulpes: how does a tax on revenues make any sense?
Pierre_Rochard: “pay a tax in sum of 0.1% or a hundred thousand satoshi per full Bitcoin realised” <- Is this tax on profit or revenues?
punkman: chetty: is there a crib sheet somewhere on using the deed thingy? << it's just one command!
punkbot: jurov: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin. You may also want to use the 'list' command to list all available plugins and commands.
punkbot: ben_vulpes: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin. You may also want to use the 'list' command to list all available plugins and commands.
chetty: is there a crib sheet somewhere on using the deed thingy?
mircea_popescu: better than a car crash.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: why do you put a space before semicolons?
mircea_popescu: a
mircea_popescu: bounce: ... and do so in a way that makes your browser bar turn a nice comforting colour << that.
assbot: american-fuzzy-lop - A practical, instrumentation-driven fuzzer for binary formats - Google Project Hosting
mircea_popescu: those sites not functioning sounds like a blessing.
bounce: per line? that sounds a little excessive.
mircea_popescu: this is a little narrow.
bounce: oh I don't know that. if the lines get long enough things get "interesting" in a hurry
mircea_popescu: bounce in any case, consider that putting a \n every 80th character is a lot easier than extracting spurious \ns
mircea_popescu: bounce i hate nothing more than downloading a "text" document and instead getting a "text+markup that's identical to text and only works on obsolete machinery anyway"
mircea_popescu: (your browser should have a fit-to-screen option. and generally, formatting should be done locally not fucking up the document with spuriousness)
jurov: quite a bombshell, the past para
BingoBoingo appologizes, had no idea bittorrent was so slow in the event a person wants to download something the slightest bit interesting
BingoBoingo wonders why paladin press torrents are such shitty downloads, wishes for a Paladin Press takeover by S.QNTR, eventually
bounce: ... and do so in a way that makes your browser bar turn a nice comforting colour
BingoBoingo: But... OMGWTFBBQ.509 is not a WOT
bounce: so the problem they're trying to solve by throwing a threadbare industry best current practice at it is to add some special "it's us, honest!"-sauce to link facebook.com and $facebook.onion
bounce: the onion address is governed by a private key, so no real chance of impersonation -- as long as you check the complete onion address
BingoBoingo: Sounds a lot like the definition of terrorism
cazalla: and your email is listed as the contact for when a backup is complete, i do em manually by ftp and phpmyadmin too
BingoBoingo: Bittorrent is a weird game
decimation: asciilifeform: wouldn't our immortal-with-a-weakness face even chances of death in 5000 years (assuming 10 in 100000 accident deaths)
BingoBoingo: Is that a preemie or an abortus?
asciilifeform: walk in cities and drive a car << iirc, in usa this gives an otherwise-immortal fellow about 500 years 'MTBF'.
mircea_popescu: basically it's a free "oppress those druggies" card.
BingoBoingo: Washington, D.C. October 7, 2013 - Illinois has the 12th lowest drug overdose mortality rate in the United States, with 10 per 100,000 people suffering drug overdose fatalities, according to a new report, Prescription Drug Abuse: Strategies to Stop the Epidemic. << http://healthyamericans.org/reports/drugabuse2013/release.php?stateid=IL
mircea_popescu: how about that canadian woman a satellite found in the fucking white wastes ?
decimation: asciilifeform: but I walk in cities and drive a car
asciilifeform: most people understand that, if they are not a parachutist, their chance of death from unopened parachute is exactly zero.
mircea_popescu: i have a leg to stand on!
mircea_popescu: 1k deaths from gang warfare on a 10mn population
mircea_popescu: ok looksy : 30k deaths from auto accidents on a 300mn population
mircea_popescu: it's usually a black male teenager.
decimation: nah, that's only a thousand a year or so
mircea_popescu: decimation a young male in that demographic :)
decimation: just like for the first iraq war, it was statistically safer for a young male to be in iraq than in the us
mircea_popescu: for that matter, tons of people use facebook and kill themselves. but that's not a news item.
mircea_popescu: decimation think about it, a userbase of 200mn implies no less than 20k suicides.
mircea_popescu: they have 200mn users, which is downright fucking criminal. i don't for a second believe that this huge push is anything to do with "suicides".
mircea_popescu: decimation the thing is, it's a late comer to the stupid game, roughly a twitter ripoff with better interface.
decimation: it's true that the design turdware is a serious problem
mircea_popescu: practically half a nautical mile.
decimation: can manufacture IC products with technology nodes between 10,000 nanometers (nm) and 250 nm. Approximately half of the companies (22) can make ICs in the United States with technology nodes from 250 nm - 65 nm. A significantly smaller number of firms, six, can make IC products at dimensions below 65 nm, and just three of them have commercial-volume capability for 45 nm and 32 nm dimensions."
decimation: usg wanting to maintain the last little vestige of us ic-printing is a different thing than usg deciding electronics
BingoBoingo: <decimation> if usg can manipulate electronics, why did it allow electronics to flee to china? << US never surrendered all of its foundries. IBM sale is getting a National Security review for a reason
asciilifeform: any country that obeys u.s. patent hegemony - not a market for the product, at least, not above ground.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> add a few $bn for military discouragement of molestation by currently invested parties. << Data centers with no safe disconnect distance
asciilifeform: add a few $bn for military discouragement of molestation by currently invested parties.