asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: considering any plans for non-intel iron for s.bisp ?

asciilifeform: the elephant.

asciilifeform: i guess my red-hot doug lenat k001 w4r3z stays on kako's box, l0l ☟︎

asciilifeform: there we go

asciilifeform: from mr warez's point of view, he's throwing packets and orcs come to fuck with him

asciilifeform: aha but where does 'my fist' end and 'his nose' begin

asciilifeform tries to picture this scene actually playing out, melts brain

asciilifeform: schloooourpr.

asciilifeform: l0l

asciilifeform: http://cryptome.org/2015/05/TheAmericanDream.pdf << mega-l0l ( plain text: http://dpaste.com/0V3TXJH.txt )

asciilifeform: i thought the traditional variant was 'plumber surprise'

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: l0l! any idea what the likely scenario behind that photo is ? ☟︎

asciilifeform: he hasn't surrendered

asciilifeform: mike_c: strategic retreat

asciilifeform: aha

asciilifeform: not as if there aren't a couplea dozen vps crud isps who will take the 10 dollah

asciilifeform: it's not exactly a public derpual, this isp.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: doubt they'd notice

asciilifeform: aha sure.

asciilifeform l0lz at no one noticing his mistake with oxygen

asciilifeform: http://www.personal.kent.edu/~rmuhamma/Algorithms/MyAlgorithms/Greedy/greedyIntro.htm << intro

asciilifeform: !s greedy algorithm

asciilifeform: (it has a usable mathematical definition, for instance)

asciilifeform: 'greedy algorithm' is best analogy here.

asciilifeform: lolwut

asciilifeform: because there be dragons or somesuch.

asciilifeform: and yes, one of my ancient beefs with biological 'state of the art' is that folks deliberately ignore non-genetic mechanisms of inheritance

asciilifeform: you won't find it linking to 'oxygen must have 16 protons' either

asciilifeform: (re: 'junk')

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: possibly the fpga/dragonfly thread relates.

asciilifeform: how about - incineration.

asciilifeform: mats: fuck mitigation.

asciilifeform: fuck no.

asciilifeform: wat?!!

asciilifeform: mats: i very much see aslr as the proverbial 'teacher's condom', as per https://xkcd.com/463

asciilifeform: nah, there he is born pre-digested.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: l0l, but where is the pig that turns into sausage merely by being shown the knife.

asciilifeform: mats: was, even, in '80s iirc

asciilifeform: then - sure

asciilifeform: yes, but if gpu stopped (as perhaps it has) then it is quite useless to hijack them for this purpose given that asic remains in motion

asciilifeform: (afaik no one has even produced a true (non-metalloidfpga) asic yet)

asciilifeform: the gpu train. the asic train is barely steaming yet.

asciilifeform: obsolete is a time delay thing

asciilifeform: for ever ?

asciilifeform: (most chumpnet idiots have ruinously obsolete hardware)

asciilifeform: 0.1

asciilifeform: not impossible, but uneconomical given the (even in that era's mining difficulty) reward

asciilifeform: and extract all possible variants

asciilifeform: to do it, one would need to reverse thousands of individual vendor driver packages

asciilifeform: i personally collected hundreds of examples of such crud, not a single one made any attempt to install opencl

asciilifeform: per submodel, in fact

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it is unique per card

asciilifeform: there was no possible answer

asciilifeform: from day 1.

asciilifeform: utter, complete cargo cult.

asciilifeform: (scarcely anyone on the planet does)

asciilifeform: unless chump had opencl drivers installed

asciilifeform: the gotchas is that -not a single one of these payloads- worked

asciilifeform: mats: the rootkit thing is interesting for another reason. remember the era of gpu mining? there were thousands of idiots distributing 'bfgminer' etc. as crapware payload.

asciilifeform: mats: i dunno enough about silicon to say what i'd rather have << but it is not difficult to arrive at what one would rather -not- have. as (i think it was) mircea_popescu wrote, 'i don't lay eggs, but...'

asciilifeform: what, you'd rather have nintendo-style jail ?

asciilifeform: just like cpu l0l

asciilifeform: has nothing to do with 'secure' in the human sense of the word.

asciilifeform: mats: the signature thing, when the chipset actually checks on coldboot, is to keep folks from overclocking their cheapo cards

asciilifeform: as if you necessarily need to reflash the card here

asciilifeform: 'secured' is a meaningless word

asciilifeform: that, for some inexplicable reason, most folks have in their box.

asciilifeform: think of gpu as simply a very poorly documented coprocessor

asciilifeform: without this clear thread, one is reduced to 'dulce et decorum est' and other mind games

asciilifeform: how would you even begin a tally, l0l

asciilifeform: but rare.

asciilifeform: exists, yes

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=04-04-2015#1087741 ☝︎

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aha right along with orwell's 'the jingo with a bullet hole in him'

asciilifeform: either this, or the old favourite 'this did not happen, i did not say this'

asciilifeform: . ' etc

asciilifeform: 'Allowing more transactions with no other changes would very likely accelerate the UTXO set growth, making it more expensive, more quickly, to run a fully validating node. And worst case would be twenty times as expensive; $10,000 per year. Affordable for a business, not for an individual.' << but now that he said this, next tack will be 'individuals have no business running nodes, only Responsible Licensed Businesses ought ..

asciilifeform: something entirely reasonable

asciilifeform: what'd they do - recon ? iirc.

asciilifeform: iirc actual ninjas - moved.

asciilifeform: is there a hidden meaning i'm not aware of ?

asciilifeform: wtf is with the 'ninja' preoccupation of usg muppets

asciilifeform: one can bribe a victim to avoid the latter filing charges. but crown has the option to prosecute if it wants

asciilifeform: asset.

asciilifeform: the impression i got from the linked piece is that the hackability of derpco. or whatnot was a crown criminal matter

asciilifeform: settlement, irrc, is a tort law concept and doesn't work in criminal law (outside of medieval 'bote', 'weregeld', etc)

asciilifeform: ianal - but what, i wonder, is the american law re: extortion using regulatory officials? i.e. can you demand $x to stay silent about rats in a restaurant ?

asciilifeform: and i bet - largely factual

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: damned if i know. but it's hilarious.

asciilifeform: http://money.cnn.com/2015/05/07/technology/tiversa-labmd-ftc/index.html << l0ltr0nic

asciilifeform: damned if i remember. possibly mr mold

asciilifeform: i learned this as 'no one dies to defend his hotel'

asciilifeform: (for the time being)

asciilifeform: one of the few remaining quasi-civilized linuxen

asciilifeform: when was this day

asciilifeform: (responsible for a good chunk of the current delay)

asciilifeform: i'll adjust it as soon as i also figure out the db locking thing

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this was my thought as well

asciilifeform: aha

asciilifeform: or was that just a side thing