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Framedragger: hmm. i suddenly became concerned with potential failed archival requests from scriba - will check log (iirc not many failures,
tho - otherwise would know.)
phf: customary you put a few second
timeout, but even
that might not be enough
phf: after
the events
though
there's still potentially a few
ticks while js assembles
the page
phf: Framedragger: in case of archive.is
there's no "js emulator". it's proper js. usually what happens is
that your browser sends various events when
the network load is complete, and
the dom is rendered
phf: i've been browsing
the web using dillo/netserf from openbsd box and realized just how broken it become compared
to even 5 years ago. only places
that you can still render on old browser are
the backalleys. uncle al style homepages,
tmsr, *chans
Framedragger: curious if latter is due
to js emulator not being 'good enough', or blacklisting (who dares archive us!1)
phf: that's what archive.is
technically does.
the js problem is "solved" by letting
the jser do it's
thing and get
the ~dom~ into some state. archive.is actually stores
the resultant dom rather
than original html
Framedragger: can also make irc-independent endpoint (
http or w/e) which does WoT gpg challenge-response. prototype would speak a
thousand words
though, i suppose. :)
Framedragger: i.e.,
the interface of
the 'is_this_request_coming_from_legit should not be
too irc-specific.
Framedragger: but
then if
things are coded correctly, it shouldn't be hard
to swap irc for gossipd later, imho
Framedragger: but i guess you're saying
that
this particular archiver would rely on irc state (otherwise quite cumbersome
to do challenge-response per every url request), which of course is quite bad.
Framedragger: thing is,
the irc wrapper on
top of gpg challenge-response is *thin* (at least in, say, scriba), and easily removable/changeable.
Framedragger: enemy which knows and
tracks
this but which is not capable of extracting/tracking current requests
to archive.is?
Framedragger: archive.is already serves
the "for
the all peoples" function.
Framedragger: this was addressed, no? restrict
to in-channel use, and/or l1+l2 or something or other.
Framedragger: ah. well, i can imagine a fleet of VMs (on an ok-to-be-pwned, of course) emulating browser for
this.
Framedragger: asciilifeform: known bitstate, you mean, a unique fingerprint exposed
to websites?
Framedragger: all doable, but relatively
tricky (of
the icky kind, i.e., one has
to
try out some
things, and will end up with a set of semi-hacks due
to webstack being one large hack.)
Framedragger: yeah yeah, and i recall discussion about how archive.is does
this (phf had some notes), etc.; it's quite icky.
a111: Logged on 2017-04-05 03:19 lobbes smells a
tmsr archive server in
the future
ben_vulpes: as soon as one attempts
to spend from one of
those hashed addresses you're in a race with everyone
to get
the
txn confirmed
though
a111: Logged on 2017-04-05 13:04 mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-05#1637547 << you certainly need
the pubkey of
the input address, which was back in
the day
the rationale behind
the whole "don't reuse addresses"
thing --
the pubkey of an address which has paid before is known ;
the pubkey of an address which has not paid before isn't known.
mircea_popescu: incidentally, a couple of people asked for details and i linked
them
the logs, if noobs show up do me a favour and up'em.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so is your proposition
that "marry good man ; make him good children" = same
thought any bee'd
think if born of Γιατί μόνο εσείς, οι Λάκαινες, έχετε εξουσία πάνω στους άνδρες ?
mircea_popescu: this can be argued. but
then again ~all war literature proposes
the contrary
mircea_popescu: see,
this is what i mean by problem : it's not even clear if
this is a more-bee or less-bee characteristic!
mircea_popescu: it's for instance one of
the best bio-based challenges
to say rational economic agent
theory.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i didn't mean problem as in "bad
thing
to fix" i meant problem as in "legitimate
topic"
mircea_popescu: it's (unsurprisingly) a male
trait, and a young'un
trait, which explains other
things
too
mircea_popescu: this is a fundamental problem in humans,
that
they'll
take overdangerous work.
a111: Logged on 2017-03-29 06:59 mircea_popescu:
they drew
the conclusion
that optionality is not enough, and work safety must be provided
through regulation.
mircea_popescu: supposedly
this is an unsolvable dilemma, at least for any housewife
that's never met
the whip.
mircea_popescu: this, incidentally, is how
the middle class ended up poor : "a) we are living above our means and headed for bankruptcy, but b) our means are so disproportionate
to our living by now
that attempting
to live within our means can not be called living!!1"
mircea_popescu: defeating a does not mean i'll now accept b,
the whole fucking point is
to extirpate
the empire of stupid, not
to drive in one branch by
the measure driving
the other out.
mircea_popescu: that
thing is of
two parts : a) broke your house and b)
there's nothing else.
mircea_popescu: it's not like genuine science isn't made by genuine scientists.
the pretense
to
the contrary is
the other half of
the scum delusion. cannonically "you have no option BUT
to build raft out of lcd".
mircea_popescu: eg
the one in fundamental physics i quoted above does include.
diana_coman: Framedragger, if it adds up
to "only 30 papers in
TOTAL" it means you are not going back long enough really
mircea_popescu: anyway,
the most
this'll do is make feynman more dubious, not
the anti-principle more acceptable.
Framedragger: and did calculations on computor,
too (but not sure if relevant
to any research)
Framedragger: maybe. :) i'm aware
that most of it is ~crap, but
this is more like "99.99%" vs. 99%. also, i'll make a note
to check if feynman included data in any publications which dealt with data (i.e. not only pure models.)
diana_coman sees a bit of a younger Diana's shock along
the lines of "it can't really be
true
that 99% of
the world I live in is actually rotten
to
the core" on re-reading Framedragger's replies
mircea_popescu: (for
they who don't know, bologna is how you say baloney.)
a111: Logged on 2017-04-05 14:32 Framedragger:
that's a great stance of course, but i do believe
that
this disqualifies all but, i don't know,
to speculate, "30" publications SINCE
THE BEGINNING OF
TIME
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-05#1637792 <<
this for
the record is quite false.
there's a lot of research published, up until when
the "our democracy" imbeciles saw
themselves in
the position of "running
things" and
they came up with
the current pseudo-academic nonsense. i suppose "bologna system" +- a decade or
two.
☝︎ mircea_popescu: yeah. well, it got force-published once,
to much "unhappened" hangwringing and posturing.
ben_vulpes: there is
that, doesn't change
that sim is unpublished part of system on basis of which claims are being made
mircea_popescu: eh, people get actual climate datasets all
the
time, end up exposing "data regularization" in
the sense of "our definition of average ocean
temperature is = largest measured +3, wut, problem??" it gets reported, people who can
think read, people who can't
think upvote each other on hn, etc.
ben_vulpes: "138kloc of cpp written by grad students?
that i can't have?
that only runs on golden
toilet supercomputer? mmmok"
a111: Logged on 2017-04-05 14:43 Framedragger: right. (i
think
this concludes
this discussion. i'm doing some mental gymnastics which are ~pretty shitty (i'm not ready
to dismiss all research prima facie which may not link
to raw data, and/or may have failed
to mention prior art), and i will get rid of
them sooner or later, but not yet.
thanks for indulging.)
mircea_popescu: Framedragger not like you have
to, ever. for as long as you find it pays for you, by all means.
mircea_popescu: "oh, we said we were a replication -- just, not of
the right
thing!" ,
typical americana "this will hold until someone looks at it". from
the legal system
to everywhere else, country's chock full of
that hopeful nonsense.
Framedragger: right. (i
think
this concludes
this discussion. i'm doing some mental gymnastics which are ~pretty shitty (i'm not ready
to dismiss all research prima facie which may not link
to raw data, and/or may have failed
to mention prior art), and i will get rid of
them sooner or later, but not yet.
thanks for indulging.)
☟︎ mircea_popescu: Framedragger how
the forklet of frauds is constructed exactly is of no interest. yes
they keep coming up with mealy-mouthed ways
to
try and hide
the fact
that
they';re dishonest. fine.
Framedragger: last note mircea_popescu, paper in question does acknowledge
the fact
that as regards rsa factorisation,
their attempt is a *replication* (unless i misread). but yes, should be beaten for not mentioning phuctor.
mircea_popescu: so it's not like i'm discussing "isolated incident".
there's a very well established pattern of dishonest behaviour. not just at princeton, either.
mircea_popescu: of course replicating experiments are done all
the
time ;
the important point being
that
they didn't identify
theirs as such.
mircea_popescu: and since we're discussion princeton : i wasn't going
to say anything (which is why i didn't back
then), but when some guy found metallic H ( see
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-17#1628809 ) princeton idiots came with a replicating experiment and have been
trying
to replace
the original author with
themselves ever since. which is just about as shameful.
☝︎