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mrjr: there's edge cases with malleability etc, but the benefits are that bitcoin operations can have their coins kept in a tx form, not as the information of the privkey
nubbins`: pull up a chair
mrjr: los_pantalones: i run LedgerLock, we're working on a product called time-vault, to secure your bitcoins in nlocked transactions rather than protecting the priv key ☟︎
los_pantalones: mrjr why don't you tell them a bit of what you are doing w/ ntimelock
nubbins`: how in the fuck is this a functioning business
nubbins`: and a passing woman says SLOW WOULD BE AN IMPROVEMENT
thestringpuller: nubbins`: i'll give it a try today on a VPS
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: know thy enemy << enemies are only relative. yesterday's allies easily become tomorrow's enemies. (perhaps maybe a one way street). ☟︎
asciilifeform: hence, they add up to an act of sabotage. what probably amounts to a hard fork that 'no one' noticed.
asciilifeform: if what i just said seems like nuttery, consider this. the 'bug fixes', so obviously bright and good, by phoundation since 0.5.3 - somehow add up to us not being able to load a full blockchain.
nubbins`: soooo, the fluorescent tubes that took TEN WEEKS to get here? turns out "F20T12/BL 6PK" is the item number not of a 6-pack, but of a single bulb
asciilifeform: this is a phrase transition of sorts.
nubbins`: hm i've got a specific creep in mind
asciilifeform: we've a dire case of featuritis.
thestringpuller: its a pretty neat feature for say senior to give jr. allotments of capital at guarenteed future date
asciilifeform: in order to be studied in such a way as to be signable with good conscience, a given delta must exist as a purely human-readable document, of minimal length and formatting complexity.
asciilifeform: gavin is a fellow on the enemy side.
asciilifeform: Adlai: let's backtrack. the purpose of the effort spoken of earlier is to go from a 'bitcoind' of known pedigree to something worth using as a reference for, possibly in the future, reimplementation (how and by whom, deliberately not said)
asciilifeform: but this here is more of a sword vs pistol debate.
Adlai: would you automate the following system: a car that self-destructs (killing the intruder) when it detects that it's being accessed without the owner's permission? where ownership is determined in an arbitrarily advanced way, ie, physical token, password, biometric, whatever you fancy.
Adlai: in my experience, all systems can be automated, and it's only a matter of deciding at what level you're willing to lose a human's judgement/"moral compass", but gain the benefits of automation
asciilifeform: Adlai: manual patching is a deliberate choice here. each patch is a document that those who sign it are expected to actually read -and- understand.
asciilifeform: Adlai: darcs << as a military man, perhaps you are familiar with systems that could be automated easily, but aren't? e.g., ru nuke sub controls ☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: that's a pretty rad name.
mircea_popescu: turns out there's a lot of predictive power in this tits like math thing.
mircea_popescu: if you don't feel like doing it, you can always ask a ta.
mike_c: you know what i like about math? i recently had a difficult math problem to solve, and didn't feel like dealing with it. so i had a math TA do it for total cost of 0.
xanthyos: it's a counterweight to the ass
mike_c: or is it a broad generalization with little practical application?
mircea_popescu: Singles Day—the annual Nov 11 online shopping frenzy in which Alibaba saw as many as 2.85 million transactions a minute at its peak, and a total of $9.3 billion in sales
xanthyos: i'm a real man now
assbot: People! US Dollars are not worth a fifth of a Bitcent. STOP SELLING! pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: xanthyos the only thing i've said bout price is http://trilema.com/2014/people-us-dollars-are-not-worth-a-fifth-of-a-bitcent-stop-selling/
bagels7: Well where could I work without a degree?
xanthyos: mircea_popescu: is 440 a good buy price now?
xanthyos: twice as long as a bank
xanthyos: stander is the guy that danielpbarron and RetroUpriser and i have bought btc through for a while
mircea_popescu: <xanthyos> if a bank calls me up suspicously i will turn it on them. how dare you bother a long standing customer! << lmao this works, yeah.
thestringpuller: coinbase is a lot of work. I have to keep my accounts separate and can't have money fluctuate too high or low without suspcicious phone calls.
mircea_popescu: <bagels7> What do you expect from this WoT, Is fraud a concern << that didn't parse. say wut ?
TomServo: What do you guys figure is a reasonable markup for cash trades?
danielpbarron: i made that switch a while ago
xanthyos: if a bank calls me up suspicously i will turn it on them. how dare you bother a long standing customer!
xanthyos: is it a crime to buy bitcoin?
bagels7: What do you expect from this WoT, Is fraud a concern
bagels7: They do newspapers which are getting more and more expensive since all the cheap advertising ones get bought, and there is a website somewhere
mircea_popescu: bagels7 you got a page up somewhere or how does the escort business even work these days ? dja advertise ?
gribble: You rated user bagels7 on Tue Nov 11 06:40:19 2014, with a rating of 2, and supplied these additional notes: boy who pretends to be a girl; http://twitter.com/SakuraSoph.
mircea_popescu: Adlai and boss is not a profession.
Adlai: (this is a false cliche btw... the oldest profession, imo, is "boss")
mircea_popescu: anyway : boys like highly sexed girls. it's a thing. it doesn't actually say anything about you.
mircea_popescu: bagels7 don't take this the wrong way, because it's not actually going where it may seem, butt : are you a girl ?
bagels7: yeah to not see a huge ass first thing in the morning
bagels7: Oh hey, I was just wondering how it would be nice to not hear about kim's ass once in a while, perhaps a whole day even
Adlai: well there's a big difference between military hierarchy and structured decentralization, but have your laffs while i have my baffs
Adlai just got back from a week in reserve dooty as a signals technician in an artillery thingy
Adlai: they were actually quite fascinated by it, and a surprising number had never ever heard of it
mircea_popescu: lol is that a tank being decomissioned ?
Adlai: just, that i'm not in a mental state to conduct any sort of serious discussion right now
mircea_popescu: if this turns into another "you're mean and a cult because systemd" thing i swear...
Adlai: i'll just drop a nice photo here and go shower
Adlai: however darcs is just a slight layer over patches
mircea_popescu: <Adlai> either goal can be accomplished from either starting point << that is a judgement.
mircea_popescu: you're not in a position to make that judgement.
punkman: speaking of reimplementing things: https://github.com/singpolyma/OpenPGP-Python << a python port of a php implementation of openpgp standard
Adlai: libccoin is a valgrind clean bitcoin node, written in C
Adlai: btw, this is quite relevant and maybe even a better starting point than 0.5.3: https://github.com/jgarzik/picocoin/tree/master/include/ccoin
jurov: in short a system where it can be proven beyond doubt and without third-party service "X posted it, Y,Z signed it, A made a release"
punkman: maybe a gpg plugin for gitorious or gitlab
Adlai: ... why are we still talking about how to manage a project through patches-by-mail?
mircea_popescu: ianac, but can a project survive on 32kb text only patches ?
mircea_popescu: jurov get the deeds firehose, process them into a mailing list by criteria ? this is interesting.
jurov: no i'll have to actually do it, i am not in such a pit as stan and can push jobs around
mircea_popescu: can a project live liek that ?
mircea_popescu: this is also not a bad idea
nubbins`: get a standard figured out and implement it in a few different languages
nubbins`: punkman let's put a section on the deeds website for deed verification utils
mircea_popescu: but presumably the email goes into a script somewhere no ?
jurov: if you meant a form with action="mailto:btc-dev@..." that wouldn't help anything
mircea_popescu: jurov web form is a good idea i'd say.
Adlai: please explain this as though i am a retarted monkey
Adlai: (nothing from gribble though, but i did have a highlight that overflowed scrollback)
jurov: hi Adlai, you wanted to post a patch to btc-dev?
Adlai: crashed in between a sell and a buy, so i sat through this rally in fiat >_<
punkman: "Earlier this summer, a group of data crunchers looking at underwear sales at Alibaba came across a curious trend: women who bought larger bra sizes also tended to spend more"
assbot: You could flash-fry a buffalo in 40 seconds - YouTube
thestringpuller: lol. the chick fil a on campus is the slowest one in the state. about 15 minutes being in line ;)
mircea_popescu: chinese bureaucrats got dumped a spoiled western brat.
punkman: though ass champagne might be a good business
punkman: does she have a clothing label yet?
mircea_popescu: no way that's a chance event.
mircea_popescu: in a decade, kim will be remembered and who was brangelina again ?
punkman: I think she looks better now than before she had a kid
mircea_popescu: to think, not even 200 years ago the same woman could be put in stocks if the husband told police she stabbed the same watermelon in a slothful or wanton manner.
Vexual: theres a song about who fucker her first
mircea_popescu: not a bnad idea, that.
BingoBoingo: Vexual: When are you starting a blog that blogs other blogs rinsed through MP's Google Translate Vexualator?
assbot: Ask.fm laid bare, or what’s half a million uniques to you ? pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2014/askfm-laid-bare-or-whats-half-a-million-uniques-to-you/
BingoBoingo: Well, new meme clogging Derpistan seems to be "Forget the moon, we caught a comet"