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BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> unfortunately BingoBoingo may be the only man alive who can see this similarity << So the most superficial similarity is the media narrative. A&M is perenial legit title contender while MIZ accidentallied the SEC east championship last year and accidentally is in the lead to win it again this year.
asciilifeform: a mental patient, likewise
asciilifeform: for example, gavin, a paid shill, has no free time (he is not his own man)
asciilifeform: if $209k per year makes one a pauper << consider applying my ad hoc formula: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-10-2014#869923 ☝︎
BingoBoingo: decimation: Not "painful" as in pain pain. More like having a strong electrical current between your temple and ear while your legs cramp in a way that might need ice in the morning. More discomfort than pain proper.
BingoBoingo: The cost of waking up occasionally with a bout of exploding head is an acceptable cost.
assbot: Missouri Tigers vs. Texas A&M Aggies - Box Score - November 15, 2014 - ESPN
decimation: I remember having to program a 68k variant microcontroller in school, wasn't too bad
BingoBoingo: "Apple" never had a chance at that.
decimation: I bet you could still run 'lynx' on a 486
decimation: it was connected to a radio modem and managed to pass tcp to other ham radio operators
decimation: back in my youth I actually ran a tcp/ip node on an 8086
asciilifeform: i still have 'doom' on a stack of aol floppies somewhere.
decimation: he accumulated a pile
decimation: BingoBoingo: I had a friend who would call aol every day for a new 'demo floppy'
decimation: compuserve was kind of a giant bbs
undata: I vaguely remember gopher sites as a young kid
asciilifeform: a recent openbsd (what i eventually settled on for that machine) consumes virtually the whole 64m.
asciilifeform: tried it personally, and put in a good effort, a year or so ago
asciilifeform: i know of no setup where it is possible to set up even a very decent 486 in such a way that it can be used for serious work today.
undata: with a relatively modern machine the compile time isn't so bad
decimation: kde used to not be a steaming turdpile
decimation: running gentoo certainly gives you a motvation to scale down the lines of code in your system
undata: but also to a well-tuned gentoo install feeling a lot like a well-tuned emacs
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: gentoo << complicated. the lead dev surrendered to microshit (literally) some years ago, and it's been run by a skeleton crew ever since, with numerous high-profile catastrophes (of the 'your machine is suddenly rendered unusable by a perfectly innocent-looking action' variety) -- but there is -no- adequate replacement to this day.
undata: hard to trust diagnoses with a pfizer clock on the wall
BingoBoingo: I'm not a big fan of antipsychotics, make me feel like Micheal J Fox. Anticonvulsants though, particularly lamotrigine... do my brain well
undata: american medicine is a scam
undata: a second doctor bothered with blood work and I was merely low on a few vitamins
undata: when I was younger a doctor put me on an antipsychotic for a bit due to "depression"
asciilifeform: can he take a few months off like ascii dreams << when did i ever say 'few months'
undata: BingoBoingo: do the wrong drugs as a kid?
BingoBoingo: decimation: I don't remember that one specifically, but... pretty sure bring a folder of medical records is a part of what did in my chances for interesting stuff. Amazing what a trip to the wrong part of the hospital can do for your prospects
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: My brain caught fire a bit too early. When medical records came up post ASVAB offers of pick your field turned into, "trust us, we'll find a nice place for you"
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> mircea_popescu: i do not exactly believe b-a is intended for the workaday people. << do elaborate. should all of us but you & kako pack up? or some other thing implied << I believe for the rest #b-a is Frankenstein's attic laboratory
decimation: right, and in a related point - if $209k per year makes one a pauper, how much is the real bitcoin foundation going to pay?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i do not exactly believe b-a is intended for the workaday people. << do elaborate. should all of us but you & kako pack up? or some other thing implied
decimation: I had a lawyer friend who used to be a prosecutor near asciilifeform. He was told not to frequent the local fast food joints because of the poulation of ex-convicts
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> decimation: i don't think anyone here has trouble getting money by working. << I was not able to secure seasonal retail work again this year. I suspect I'm already on a list to "have problems"
asciilifeform: decimation: wasn't a memory stop as such
decimation: asciilifeform: yeah if it is a memory stop it is probably hardware specific
decimation: if you watch 'the wire' one would believe that a possible option would be to sit in your car on the highway and get drunk
decimation: asciilifeform: maybe you can get a job at the 'bitcoin foundation' for $209k
ben_vulpes: https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/wedged-blockchains/237902.tar.gz.00 , https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/wedged-blockchains/237902.tar.gz.01 for those looking to wedge a blockchain of their own
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: however, ben himself wants a tower of hydrocarbons. and if he gets it, he'll want something else. << actually, afaik what he was speaking for is my escape rocket metaphor.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it's not a bad theory in any sense. got any policy proposals based on it ? << beyond 'open a physical empire where we can all defect to and die like men in the janissary corps' - no useful idea.
decimation: can he take a few months off like ascii dreams?
decimation: if gavin is a pauper than I'm in the poor house
mircea_popescu: there was also a ruby one but i dont recall right off what.
mircea_popescu: are you running it on a linux box ?
mircea_popescu: a cool
mircea_popescu: he could probably make more begging where he lives, and being a professional beggar would actually be much more respectable and honorable than being bitcoin's 5th column.
mircea_popescu: "Gavin Andresen's salary as the full time lead developer of the entire bitcoin protocol is $209k a year."
assbot: For the amount of money that Theymos is paying for new forum software, we could run a bitcoin commercial during the Super Bowl. : Bitcoin
mircea_popescu: just like they decided a decade ago to randomly use she instead of the canonical pronoun,
mircea_popescu: or is the us so poor these days that a plurality of shirts is verbally inconceivable ?
mircea_popescu: is that like a parody ?
thestringpuller: sorry not at a pc. cant read logs.
BingoBoingo: http://dpaste.com/2DR6XPG << Fucking textbining a url
BingoBoingo: You jsut don't have a great window ever to do it quietly under cover.
mircea_popescu: incidentally, am i the only one that finds it just a little amusing that torproject.org actively promotes the use of pdfs to encapsulate information that otherwise should be in a textfile or simple post ?
BingoBoingo: Only so many roads with enought traffic for reliable roadkill. The 5-0 has to take the roads too. The time it takes to drag the deer into a safe tarp and wad it up so the car's interior doesn't look like the scene of a homicide...
BingoBoingo: Sure. I mean the fresh one's are probably safe, but possessing one without a tag for it... Probably safer to drive around with a trunk full of cocaine.
BingoBoingo: No shortage of those around here. Can't go for a drive of anylength without spotting venison on the roadside.
mircea_popescu: the "satoshi costume" is just a start, he'll wear a dead deer if it comes to it.
mircea_popescu: "You'll find the core developers are detached and very different to their users. As a developer of software myself I would find it disheartening if the bulk of my users were jerks like /r/bitcoin."
mircea_popescu: CHA lol. teh buttfuck foundation! it's a thing.
jurov: En ese fallo se responsabilizo por delitos comunes exclusivamente a la Comunidad Homosexual Argentina (CHA) y se la condenó a pagar $450.000.- por un delito ocurrido en la vereda de la plaza donde se realizaba un acto.
jurov: looks like not really banned only asked a fee for the security
mircea_popescu: i dunno how banned it'd be if the city closed down a major street for it.
mircea_popescu: they closed off a major street downtown (rivadavia) and put a scene up and everything in front of the cogress building
mircea_popescu: "Recently it was announced that a coalition of government agencies took control of many Tor hidden services. We were as surprised as most of you."
Anduck: please, give me a third "yes it does"
Anduck: so you would value my speech here if i knew what a wagram is?
Anduck: not relevant but yes i've zero idea of what a wagram is
mircea_popescu: im sure most of the cattle that i'm going to eat in my lifetime has also lived a pretty happy life,
Anduck: mircea_popescu: remember, the people who you call 'idiots' may be living a happier life than you ☟︎
mircea_popescu: i suppose the one true source of trolling is exactly that. ironically enough, pankake was orignally selling himself as a troll for hire iirc.
mircea_popescu: it's not a matter of why or wherefore. i just do not wish to.
mircea_popescu: TheNewDeal: did not feel the need to argue the point that no on in their right mind wants to stock shelves at the Canadian superstore at 2am <<< why should they get a choice ?
mircea_popescu: because no, i don't credit for a minute this theory whereby the 20yo male is the be-all end-all hope-and-pride of humanity.
mircea_popescu: in any case : i do not exactly believe b-a is intended for the workaday people. let them put a decade in, build themselve financially to the position where they can participate in a start-up, and intellectually to the position where they actually aren't quite AS fucktarded as the average 20something.
mircea_popescu: they probably sold it, of course, but if they did not, they have a lot more liquid btc than say goat.
mircea_popescu: plenty of people took out 100 btc in one month. back then this was you know, a few hundred bucks, "wage".
mircea_popescu: "wage labour" on fain, on a voluntary basis (internet work, add links, vote on links, comments -> collect points -> take out btc) had average monthly payments well over 1 btc. AVERAGE.
mircea_popescu: punkman put 1024 keys together with the irc nicks so i can send them a later tell ?
jurov: didn't we solve a yesterday's conundrum about nature of life?
mircea_popescu: however, ben himself wants a tower of hydrocarbons.
mircea_popescu: ife is the end of want, having a wife and a house in the amerca!!!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: The whole idea that anything can be so "shared" as to have no value in itself is not a problem if the rest of the world ensures that nobody _is_ starving or needing money. <<< this is nonsense anyway. money is always needed, this is a scaling problem. average rat living in a hole in the middle east linking his pretenses to humanity to his possesion of an old cellphone someone lost may think ben_vulpes' l
mircea_popescu: Anduck therewas also an unrelated issue discovered, regarding first character on a line, so tyvm.
mircea_popescu: of inadvertence, negligence, or mistake.” As a factual matter, this claim is questionable. It could just as well be said that heavily counseled parties to mega-mergers do not sign merger agreements containing glaringly ambiguous terms that lead to avoidable litigation—but here we are."
mircea_popescu: this is not a trivial problem in any sense : http://trilema.com/2013/our-emperor-deliver-us/
punkman: a bunch of conceptual difficulties about how exactly to handle the job descriptions/contractual enforcement << interesting in hearing some of those
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: this may also explain the disappearance of moiety and a few other folks. <<< it's not a bad theory in any sense. got any policy proposals based on it ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: is there, somewhere, a smoky bar where they down hard drinks and tell anyone who'll listen how 'it was all a sham11!1!' ? << not afaik, tho i'd like to have a hard drink myself. tho i imagine that'd ruin it huh.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: what was his project (mentioned in the comment) ? <<< you perhaps recall i said at conference i want two things made, an advertising service and a jobs board. we had some initial discussions about it, we ran into a bunch of conceptual difficulties about how exactly to handle the job descriptions/contractual enforcement, which turned out a much more complex task than originally imagined, last was "we
jurov: i'm laughing because i do understand a bit
mircea_popescu: ;;rate theymos -10 defrauded the tardstalk community by throwing ~half a million dollars worth of BTC at some obscure service provider for kickbacks. a lenghty history of fraudulent behaviour, http://trilema.com/2012/scammer-tag-nefario-theymos-others-known-and-unknown/
mircea_popescu: - Expenses: 1505 (1257 Slickage, the rest mostly mods) << according to theymos, tardstalk has spent half a million dollars to one million this year.