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Bugpowder: and that 1
% chance that everything collapses and bitcoins become worth $1000 each
assbot: GIPPT [1@1BTC] (since: 2012-01-01) paid: 0.50601 BTC. Last price: 0.45 BTC. Capital gain: -0.55 BTC. Total: -0.04399 BTC. (-4.4
%)
freefal2: @mp can you explain how you approach options settlement? If I sell the $10 put and USD/BTC settles at $5 then I owe $5 which is 1 BTC. Is that correct? And then margining can be done by testing the amount of BTC needed to cover an x
% move?
assbot: DMC [1@1BTC] paid: 0.02635814 BTC. Last price: 0.035 BTC. Capital gain: -0.965 BTC. Total: -0.93864186 BTC. (-93.9
%)
DeaDTerra: No, I wrote a contract which clearly stated I acted as a middle man and were not responsable for the other 95
%, I clearly stated that if all the other insureres/backers default then I am not responsible for the debt. And then I took 0.5
% of the profit in admin fee :)
DeaDTerra: I specifically stated before the IPO that I am not resposible for the rest 95
% and it also says so in the contract. Oh well I guess as I am the head figure people throw the shit at me instead, I guess I should expect it but still :(
DeaDTerra: I acted as a middle man and I insured 5
% which I have paid back.
DeaDTerra: GIPPT has payed about 50
% of the repayment from the insured pirate pass through but due to the liquidity issues with IMSAguy and HK that help the backing, it's going slow. Hence people are being pissed at me even though I am not the insurer or the backer.
assbot: GIGAMINING [1@1BTC] paid: 0.44317596 BTC. Last price: 0.47 BTC. Capital gain: -0.53 BTC. Total: -0.08682404 BTC. (-8.7
%)
assbot: GIGAMINING [1@1.5BTC] paid: 0.44317596 BTC. Last price: 0.47 BTC. Capital gain: -1.03 BTC. Total: -0.58682404 BTC. (-39.1
%)
assbot: CPA [1@0.06BTC] paid: 0.00569688 BTC. Last price: 0.031 BTC. Capital gain: -0.029 BTC. Total: -0.02330312 BTC. (-38.8
%)
assbot: CPA [1@BTC] paid: 0.00569688 BTC. Last price: 0.031 BTC. Capital gain: 0.031 BTC. Total: 0.03669688 BTC. (-100
%)
Diablo-D3: I mean, how much
% off due to bulk reselling
assbot: DMC [1@BTC] paid: 0.02635814 BTC. Last price: 0.03510001 BTC. Capital gain: 0.03510001 BTC. Total: 0.06145815 BTC. (-100
%)
PsychoticBoy: to investors, in which the 0.5
% is for compensating the GLBSE fee
PsychoticBoy: 28, 2011, 100.5
% of the total Bitcoins raised from ASICMINER will be
occulta: 08/23/2012 21:33 Account Closure @ 135.02737407 Final Payment = 135.02737407 BTC @ 2.4
% = 138.26803104
smickles: mircea_popescu: i've seen several that ask people trivia and also ask them to rate their confidence level in their own answer as greater or less than 90
% confidence. most people, on most questions rated > 90
% confidence on the answer gave the incorrect answer
mircea_popescu: One study found that 93
% of us think we're above-average drivers. Another discovered that 25
% of high school seniors rated themselves among the top 1
% in their ability to get along well with others.
mircea_popescu: ponzis collapse with something between 10 and .3
%ish of what they owe left in cash
blazing: well people have received their interest and principal from him for the 1
% fund prior to sep 4 so it cant be too bad
blazing: i have 500btc in his 1
% fund...hope i can see it again
blazing: his 1
% fund is insured...its the ppt i would be worried about
blazing: do you mean his ppt or 1
% fund
BTC-Mining: And you end up with 30
% of the hashing you'd get buying the equipment directly.
assbot: GSDPT [1@0.0032BTC] paid: 7.468E-5 BTC. Last price: 0.0034 BTC. Capital gain: 0.0002 BTC. Total: 0.00027468 BTC. (8.6
%)
assbot: GSDPT [1@1BTC] paid: 7.468E-5 BTC. Last price: 0.0034 BTC. Capital gain: -0.9966 BTC. Total: -0.99652532 BTC. (-99.7
%)
mircea_popescu: <BTC-Mining> That or each time one fails, someone else pop ups with that thought: "I don't know squat about security or even understand the concept of it, but SURELY if I make a platform it will be 100
% better and secure because I made it instead of grossly incompetent people. I'm FLAWLESS." <<< this.
BTC-Mining: That or each time one fails, someone else pop ups with that thought: "I don't know squat about security or even understand the concept of it, but SURELY if I make a platform it will be 100
% better and secure because I made it instead of grossly incompetent people. I'm FLAWLESS."
assbot: SS [1@1BTC] paid: 0.59016283 BTC. Last price: 0.021 BTC. Capital gain: -0.979 BTC. Total: -0.38883717 BTC. (-38.9
%)
assbot: SS [1@1BTC] paid: 0.59016283 BTC. Last price: 0.021 BTC. Capital gain: -0.979 BTC. Total: -0.38883717 BTC. (-38.9
%)
BTC-Mining: But when you insisted on the guaranteed
% for the customer, I started asking about the impact for the broker instead, since there was supposed to be one.
BTC-Mining: The problem is, even if he's long on bitcoin... suppose someone makes a gain in fiat position (10
%). That gain is in fiat. During that time, BTC value indeed goes long, it raises 200
%. Try to buy with 10
% fiat profit 10
% profit in bitcoins worth 3x the price. You'd need to have made 30
% profit on the position to pay the 10
% in bitcoins.
BTC-Mining: 10
% gain on a USD/EUR position, 10
% gain in BTC, guaranteed.
BTC-Mining: No, 10
% gain on a USD/EUR position, 10
% gain in BTC, guaranteed.
BTC-Mining: Yes, but Kako doesn't seem like he's going to hedge and says a 10
% gain/loss on position = a 10
% gain/loss on BTC
mircea_popescu: then i've made a 300
% price decrease and that means a 300`000
% gain on my position
BTC-Mining: But broker only demands 50
% of BTC used for that, so 500 BTC loss. But BTC went to 1 USD each during the position.
BTC-Mining: Yeah, problem with that leverage of 1:1000 is, imagine guy with 1000 BTC going that way for 10 million USD and his position loses 0.05
% (5k USD). x1000 for leverage, 50
% loss.
BTC-Mining: BTC/fiat price will impact the broker, simply because the
% profit is in fiat, and he pays the same
% in bitcoin, regardless of if bitcoin has gone up or down in value vs fiat
Enky: you earn 80
% with a 0.1 lots (100 btc) you earn 80 btc
kakobrekla: 17:44.33 ( Enky ) or 30
% with 10 to 1 leverage
kakobrekla: 17:43.51 ( Enky ) i earn 3
% with eur usd, i earn 3
% on my bitcoin balance
BTC-Mining: Just 10
% gain in fiat gives 10
% gain in fiat
BTC-Mining: that's all fine, but there's no 10
% gain on position = 10
% gain in BTC in that equation
BTC-Mining: kako, you don't seem to understand you're making a profit on a position in FIAT. If you make a 10
% (1 USD on 10 USD, for 1 BTC) profit in fiat but bitcoins value raises 10x in USD value during that time (100 USD). Your 1 USD will pay only for 1
% extra in bitcoin, not 10
%. Either you or MT4 would have to eat a damn loss to give that full 10
%.
kakobrekla: you had you money with pirate with 7
% a week no matter if the usd btc price was 5 or 10 usd
Enky: and add that
% to your account
Enky: basically it follows profit in
% Enky: you do 20
% ? ok you earn 20
% for each 100 btc or 0.1 lots:)
Enky: 100 btc initial value + 8
% of profit
Enky: in this case 10 to 1 or 8
% or 8 btc
Enky: you earn 0.8
% plus leverage
BTC-Mining: No, if the position loses 10
%, the forex trader loses 10
% in bitcoin backing it at time of getting the position.
BTC-Mining: [10:53] <BTC-Mining> smickles, kako is saying you could have a BTC balance, and have a USD/EUR position for it, so if you lose 10
% on the position, you lose 10
% oF the BTC used for the position. AND COMPLETLY IGNORE BTC PRICE FLUCTUATION DURING THAT TIME. That's what I understood.
BTC-Mining: and suppose you use 1:1 leverage, and make 10
% loss/gain, you make 10
% loss/gain on your BTC.
BTC-Mining: [10:53] <BTC-Mining> smickles, kako is saying you could have a BTC balance, and have a USD/EUR position for it, so if you lose 10
% on the position, you lose 10
% oF the BTC used for the position. AND COMPLETLY IGNORE BTC PRICE FLUCTUATION DURING THAT TIME. That's what I understood.
mircea_popescu: btc can and has dropped and gained 50-60
% in a few days.
BTC-Mining: Well first place is 25
%, or 1.25 BTC. If you get first, you get an extra 2 BTC from mircea.
BTC-Mining: 25.00
%/15.00
%/10.00
%/7.50
%/4 x 5
%/9 x 2.5
% BTC-Mining: It's still only 15000k total value, so 4
% is about 2.6
% assbot: DMC [1@1BTC] paid: 0.02635814 BTC. Last price: 0.036101 BTC. Capital gain: -0.963899 BTC. Total: -0.93754086 BTC. (-93.8
%)
exahash: that sites been around for over 10 years. I don't "know" 100
% its not scam, as I have not bought an island through them.
assbot: DMC [1@0.5BTC] paid: 0.02635814 BTC. Last price: 0.036101 BTC. Capital gain: -0.463899 BTC. Total: -0.43754086 BTC. (-87.5
%)
assbot: DMC [1@0.85BTC] paid: 0.02635814 BTC. Last price: 0.036101 BTC. Capital gain: -0.813899 BTC. Total: -0.78754086 BTC. (-92.7
%)
dub: still smarter than 90
% of bitcointalk
BTC-Mining: Did you know that 0.001
% of them are legit? Pay 100 000 x 100$ bi-daily subscription and find out the one which actually provide hepful financial advise!
usagi: As for the 1
%, that part of the contract doesn't change; it's a pass-thru. Kind of like how tygrr.bond-pi stopped paying interest when pirate did
chaang-noi: like if i get it, will you be sure i get 1
% each day other than sunday?
chaang-noi: usagi is yarr jumping to a differnt ponzi and is the 1
% for yarr garanteed each day?
Diablo-D3: and I still cant prove if its 100
% correct