sgnb: mircea_popescu: thanks
assbot: [GLBSE] [BBBB] 5 @ 0.0002125 = 0.0011 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FUTUREFUND] 12 @ 0.00012433 = 0.0015 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 100 @ 0.105 = 10.5 BTC [-]
PsychoticBoy: hope not, that would mean friedcat is selling moar crap
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 100 @ 0.105 = 10.5 BTC [-]
PsychoticBoy: <EskimoBob> dude, if you discover a scam, you better report it or you are like the scammer too<< sry I got no data of the old contract, so no prove
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.1058 = 1.058 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 100 @ 0.106 = 10.6 BTC [+]
PsychoticBoy: yep I know usagi , it is the same but I cant prove it
PsychoticBoy: If people read contracts they will know, the prove is in the contract but its not hard prove
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 100 @ 0.105 = 10.5 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 100 @ 0.105 = 10.5 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 43 @ 0.105 = 4.515 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 7800 @ 0.00053278 = 4.1557 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 8 @ 0.101599 = 0.8128 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITCOINRS] 78 @ 0.05 = 3.9 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITCOINRS] 20 @ 0.0515 = 1.03 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MMM] 3 @ 0.9 = 2.7 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.101599 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [DI.BFLSC.FAIL] 14 @ 0.001 = 0.014 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7348 @ 0.00040008 = 2.9398 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30012 @ 0.00040016 = 12.0096 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8100 @ 0.00039998 = 3.2398 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48973 @ 0.00039979 = 19.5789 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 4 @ 0.101599 = 0.4064 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 257 @ 0.105 = 26.985 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.10243001 = 5.1215 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 250 @ 0.10243 = 25.6075 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 42 @ 0.10232 = 4.2974 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 44 @ 0.1022999 = 4.5012 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.10221011 = 2.0442 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.10221011 = 2.0442 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 100 @ 0.1022101 = 10.221 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.102 = 0.51 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 60 @ 0.10111011 = 6.0666 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 100 @ 0.10111 = 10.111 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.0999 = 0.999 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 5 @ 0.1 = 0.5 BTC [+]
Obsi: What's this business about an ASICMINER scam?
mircea_popescu: Obsi apparently there existed some offering by the same name last year.
assbot: [GLBSE] [BLUECHIP] 5 @ 0.1 = 0.5 BTC
PsychoticBoy: I dont got the hard prove but I believe what I see
Obsi: Diablo-D3: what's your opinion on this?
Obsi: Yeah OBSI.ABMO is holding 5,000 of them as well, I was not aware of this older asicminer
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.0999 = 0.1998 BTC [-]
PsychoticBoy: chinees ppl like to fuck us, dogs in the food, and now crappy assets
Rothgar: It's a race to buy bitcoin before the Chinese
PsychoticBoy: cheap chinees crap, their imitation shizzle is always crap too
PsychoticBoy: they wait for bfl then imitate the chip and board
PsychoticBoy: with cheaper less durable (even less than bfl) shizzle chips and boards
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 91 @ 0.0999 = 9.0909 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 9 @ 0.1 = 0.9 BTC [+]
PsychoticBoy: hahaha like this: pirate has paid? huh mircea lol
gribble: Time since last block: 1 hour, 1 minute, and 12 seconds
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.1 BTC [+]
Obsi: for a latte at starbucks
assbot: [GLBSE] [JAH] 20 @ 0.149 = 2.98 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.1015899 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 5 @ 0.1 = 0.5 BTC [+]
PsychoticBoy: If had more than 2k in his savings I would hunt him down
rg: someone should probably tell evoorhees
rg: that satoshidice just broke
rg: and is now holding over 1000 BTC in winnings
rg: satoshidice is broken
rg: so people should sell their shares
rg: i was just trying to show a friend how it works
assbot: [GLBSE] [SS] 17 @ 0.0198 = 0.3366 BTC [+]
rg: i just feel bad for the guy whos not going to get his 100 BTC payout now
rg: unknown = not sending
rg: not for a very long time
rg: i had a friend wait three days
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 222 @ 0.1 = 22.2 BTC [+]
rg: lol people are still throwing money at it
rg: every bet is going unknown
rg: this is probably how SD reports 1000 btc income
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 24063 @ 0.0005 = 12.0315 BTC [-]
rg: its just in the queue to be paid
rg: and it pays out at 12AM EST
rg: at least thts when i get paid my unknowns
Diablo-D3: so people are still claiming asicminer is a scam?
rg: this happens all the time
rg: aware & fixing are apparently different
rg: i guantee you no asic miners will ever come out
PsychoticBoy: I almost certain it is look at contract and past
rg: i can guarantee you anything you want
PsychoticBoy: I would hunt him down for that, if I werent in Europe
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 9 @ 0.1015899 = 0.9143 BTC [-]
PsychoticBoy: Yes thats what i meant that kind of trip is gonna cost me so
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.10599 = 0.212 BTC [+]
PsychoticBoy: plz send to 19R1QWDSEYN8X3yLdJPpSbwnR8Ka3LEFxP and help me through winter
PsychoticBoy: we ll be lucky if we can iceskate for a week per year
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8275 @ 0.00039985 = 3.3088 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7320 @ 0.00039979 = 2.9265 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38205 @ 0.00039903 = 15.2449 BTC [-]
rg: you know the real sketchy thing about satoshidice.com
rg: so even if you have a problem, you cant do anything about it
rg: youd think a site that is dealing with 100's of thousands o dollars a day
rg: would have some customer support, yea?
rg: i mean for a company who just took in 11k btc for an IPO
mircea_popescu: i imagine if they shelled out for support it'd cost more.
rg: youd think they could hire someone / get it running properly
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2595 @ 0.00039903 = 1.0355 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9137 @ 0.00039863 = 3.6423 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28868 @ 0.00039853 = 11.5048 BTC [-]
rg: mircea_popescu: even MPEX has suppot
assbot: [GLBSE] [NASTY] 2 @ 0.6 = 1.2 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15932 @ 0.00039853 = 6.3494 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35000 @ 0.00039794 = 13.9279 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3068 @ 0.00039712 = 1.2184 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MOVETO.FUND] 5 @ 1.03 = 5.15 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NASTY] 1 @ 0.61 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [IBB] 1 @ 0.608 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NASTY] 2 @ 0.613 = 1.226 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.10599 = 2.1198 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MOVETO.FUND] 2 @ 1.03 = 2.06 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 14 @ 0.1015899 = 1.4223 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABIF] 10 @ 0.97 = 9.7 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MERGEDMINING] 4 @ 0.07499 = 0.3 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDK.BND] 100 @ 0.1 = 10 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [JLP-BMD] 1 @ 0.0998 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MERGEDMINING] 1 @ 0.07499 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 12 @ 0.602 = 7.224 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.6011 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 3 @ 0.601 = 1.803 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 9 @ 0.601 = 5.409 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.6001 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 7 @ 0.6 = 4.2 BTC [-]
copumpkin: mircea_popescu: do you take all these photos?
mircea_popescu: copumpkin well the same principle. moot doesn't take the pic
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: actually, he might
copumpkin: I thought you said you were a photographer at some point
copumpkin: and given your other interests, it wouldn't be a huge stretch for you to take these yourself
mircea_popescu: copumpkin well i have tons of chicks pix i took myself, but i don't tend to publish
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42098 @ 0.00039712 = 16.718 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4102 @ 0.00039711 = 1.6289 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: i should prolly add this to the mpex faq as a security factor : someone breaking into my sikrit vault is more likely to steal the pix of angelina jolie sucking my cock than your bitcoinz
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 50 @ 0.003395 = 0.1698 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 1 @ 0.09577 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 5 @ 0.74510001 = 3.7255 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 5 @ 0.74500001 = 3.725 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 1 @ 0.745 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 5 @ 0.74000001 = 3.7 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 6 @ 0.74 = 4.44 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: As GLBSE is collapsing along with Nefario's trust level, I decided to provide the community with a system that would allow asset issuers to smoothly migrate their customers to a new asset management platform, based on a completely different security and trust system.
mircea_popescu: Unlike GLBSE, #assets-otc is not a trading system, but just a contract management system (at least for the moment).
mircea_popescu: as they say, intelligent people make new things, stupid people reimplement old things poorly.
mircea_popescu: "After yet another exchange being hacked, I can't help asking myself: Why do exchanges need a hot wallet on the server at all?"
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.1015899 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 10 @ 0.1 = 1 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FDBF] 1 @ 0.15 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla : have money go to your paper/otherwise secure wallet.
mircea_popescu: and only pay from some funds you keep in the hot wallet, maybe 1-200 btc tops
mircea_popescu: THEN, make all payments to to secure wallet and only pay from the 1-200 btc hotwallet on site
assbot: [GLBSE] [FDBF] 2 @ 0.15 = 0.3 BTC [+]
rdponticelli: The "unhackability" of things tend to be inversely proportional to the value those thing store
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 2 @ 0.1015899 = 0.2032 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1988 @ 0.00040016 = 0.7955 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21334 @ 0.00040035 = 8.5411 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 39 @ 0.1003 = 3.9117 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 25 @ 0.1002 = 2.505 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 36 @ 0.1 = 3.6 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 60 @ 0.1 = 6 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 9 @ 0.1 = 0.9 BTC [-]
rdponticelli: And if it was not, and you're a coder, you anyway have to code as if it was
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITCOINMINV] 1 @ 0.11 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITCOINMINV] 39 @ 0.1 = 3.9 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITCOINMINV] 1 @ 0.1 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 3 @ 0.1011 = 0.3033 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 40 @ 0.101 = 4.04 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 10 @ 0.09 = 0.9 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 10 @ 0.08 = 0.8 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 28 @ 0.07 = 1.96 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 14400 @ 0.00050528 = 7.276 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 35704 @ 0.00051526 = 18.3968 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 5100 @ 0.00051537 = 2.6284 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 12600 @ 0.00051957 = 6.5466 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 23573 @ 0.00053725 = 12.6646 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 8623 @ 0.00055 = 4.7427 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE:GIGAMINING] [Bid: 0.65] [Ask: 0.69978] [Spread: 0.04978] [Last: 0.6] [24hVol: 216.49771031] [7dAvg: 0.78434102]
assbot: [MPEX:F.GIGA.ETF] 1day: 0.0005 / 0.00062107 / 0.0007446 (566480 shares, 351.83 BTC), 30day: 0.0005 / 0.00091494 / 0.00115139 (11187380 shares, 10,235.85 BTC)
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 33 @ 0.003395 = 0.112 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 33 @ 0.003395 = 0.112 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.003395 = 0.3395 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 44 @ 0.003395 = 0.1494 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.B] 6 @ 0.988 = 5.928 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.B] 14 @ 0.989 = 13.846 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: the only time i bought forum advertising it was something like 5 btc and had a pretty bad roi.
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.1015898 BTC [+]
Bane_Capital: mircea_popescu: It's because Theymos doesn't believe in images
Bane_Capital: If I had the money, I would just buy my own round of ASICs and keep them to myself
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 39 @ 0.0999 = 3.8961 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 31 @ 0.1 = 3.1 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51531 @ 0.00039884 = 20.5526 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [SS] 70 @ 0.0179 = 1.253 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 400 @ 0.00050586 = 0.2023 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 100 @ 0.00055 = 0.055 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 7 @ 0.1015898 = 0.7111 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 5 @ 0.1015899 = 0.5079 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [RAREEARTH] 10 @ 0.00955 = 0.0955 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 10 @ 0.1015899 = 1.0159 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.1015899 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 3 @ 0.1015899 = 0.3048 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: rg mk so word from voorhees is that the thing happens when the bet volume is very large, but they;re working on it.
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.1015899 BTC [+]
Bane_Capital: I am pretty sure that is blatant water poisoning gone horribly wrong.
mircea_popescu: Soros, a liberal philanthropist who rose to fame as an investor on a big bet against the British pound in 1992, said a Germany-free euro zone could be more competitive in exports and service its debts more cheaply with a weaker, France-led "Latin" euro.
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 14 @ 0.6699 = 9.3786 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 41 @ 0.67 = 27.47 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 5 @ 0.696 = 3.48 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 2 @ 0.69988 = 1.3998 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 2 @ 0.69989 = 1.3998 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDT] 1 @ 0.99 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FDBF] 1 @ 0.15 BTC [+]
Bane_Capital: Well, imagine you have billions of dollars. Are you really going to report everything you have and pay taxes on it if you can get by not doing so?
Bane_Capital: Especially with that amount of monetary clout?
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.B] 16 @ 0.989 = 15.824 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.B] 9 @ 0.99 = 8.91 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: the reason he can't set foot in the us is that he's wanted for tax fraud/evasion
Bane_Capital: Anyways, whistleblowers claim the wealthiest families of this world have tens of trillions of dollars in vastly networked trusts.
Bane_Capital: I mean, of course no trillionaire is keeping US dollaarsx
assbot: [GLBSE] [BMMO] 10 @ 0.07699999 = 0.77 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.ABMO] 2 @ 0.1 = 0.2 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FUTUREFUND] 18 @ 0.00012433 = 0.0022 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 4 @ 0.0034 = 0.0136 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 150 @ 0.00348181 = 0.5223 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 100 @ 0.101 = 10.1 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 100 @ 0.102 = 10.2 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 25 @ 0.103 = 2.575 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 2 @ 0.101 = 0.202 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 4000 @ 0.0034 = 13.6 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIF.P2P.LOANS] 133 @ 0.1 = 13.3 BTC
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIF.P2P.LOANS] 250 @ 0.11 = 27.5 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8769 @ 0.00039884 = 3.4974 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TICKER] 204 @ 0.46 = 93.84 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24257 @ 0.00040021 = 9.7079 BTC [+]
blazing: who wants to buy my hashking debt
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7998 @ 0.00039711 = 3.1761 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1102 @ 0.00039693 = 0.4374 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 99 @ 0.1001 = 9.9099 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 101 @ 0.10001 = 10.101 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 96 @ 0.10001 = 9.601 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [DI.BFLSC.FAIL] 40 @ 0.001 = 0.04 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 4900 @ 0.00053961 = 2.6441 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 31400 @ 0.00054147 = 17.0022 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 43700 @ 0.00055 = 24.035 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 112778 @ 0.00055 = 62.0279 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 2222 @ 0.0007446 = 1.6545 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.1009 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 8 @ 0.101 = 0.808 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN] 7 @ 0.975 = 6.825 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [JAH] 30 @ 0.148 = 4.44 BTC [-]
Chaang-Noi: are the assets the hold publis somewhere?
assbot: [GLBSE] [RSM] 1 @ 0.3 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6909 @ 0.00039541 = 2.7319 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29400 @ 0.0003954 = 11.6248 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2400 @ 0.00039537 = 0.9489 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7391 @ 0.00039534 = 2.922 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2800 @ 0.00039534 = 1.107 BTC [-]
Chaang-Noi: so you guy get called bankrupt cuz no assets and in responce you dont show you hold any assets?
Chaang-Noi: its your business, i guess... best of luck.
Chaang-Noi: im seeing if anyone will let me borrow more shares to short
Chaang-Noi: lol a cpa contract :) you know im going with the assumtion your guys have failed or are close to failing
Chaang-Noi: its like matthew insuring his own bet if he pays out
Chaang-Noi: you are not going to get much faith in the public on writting contracts if you cant show you have assets to back them up
Chaang-Noi: for me to win, cpa will have to fail, and thus have no money to pay me back with...
Chaang-Noi: the question is, how much if any do you ahve left...
Chaang-Noi: you run cpa, the board does almost nothing. (im told)
Chaang-Noi: no, i would just like to see a list of assets
Chaang-Noi: so i know if its sound enough to trust or not
Chaang-Noi: you are writting insurance but have nothing to back it.. its risky
Chaang-Noi: yes mutual of omaha has to report their assets every 3 months
Chaang-Noi: im going to go with what i was told, you guys have almost no assets or none, untiul im shown otherwise
assbot: [GLBSE] [CPA] 500 @ 0.02 = 10 BTC [+]
Chaang-Noi: if you give me 5000 il check for myself and then give you back the shares...
gribble: Nick 'Smoovious', with hostmask 'Smoovious!~imp586@75-12-89-18.lightspeed.wyngmi.sbcglobal.net', is not identified.
assbot: [GLBSE] [UDN] 1 @ 0.04500001 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [UDN] 3 @ 0.045 = 0.135 BTC [-]
Smoovious: didn't seem important since I haven't been doing any person-to-person exchanges
Chaang-Noi: otc is going down hill, people are not using it to troll
Chaang-Noi: more people that use it, the more fial it will be
mircea_popescu: you;'ll be sorry a year from now if you're undistinguishable from a scammer that just joined.
Chaang-Noi: you have to trust the users, and most of the users currently cant be trusted
Smoovious: just google me... I've been using the same nick since ~1985
mircea_popescu: Smoovious i know what you're thinking but that's not exactly how it works here.
Chaang-Noi: people are using it to troll is a fact :/
Smoovious: plenty of others are already familiar with me... besides... a rating number isn't going to say anything... if I was a scammer, I'd just proxy myself up a few dozen +10's...
mircea_popescu: what matters is your age and who connects you, not that you got dozens of 10s
Smoovious: automatic distrust of a new face is normal... numbers won't matter either... you'll either think I'm ok or not, for yourself, given time... and I'm not gonna try to make nice about it just to earn people's trust... ya either do or ya don't... just the way it should be
mircea_popescu: Smoovious the thing with an wot id is that you can prove you're you.
mircea_popescu: anyone can come in make a nick and claim they're obama.
mircea_popescu: but if obama makes a wot and signs with his keys, then only he who has the keys can claim this anymore
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.101 BTC [-]
Smoovious: if that kind of thing matters to you, sure... doesn't matter much to me... I judge people based on direct dealing with them... just my way
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 200 @ 0.00039568 = 0.0791 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19200 @ 0.0003959 = 7.6013 BTC [+]
Smoovious: so, no different than real life then... people with their fake faces all the time, pretending they're something they're not
Smoovious: well, I did used to be a musician, so bandwagon jumping just comes natural
mircea_popescu: well, the only difference is that here you have signatures. if you're in the wot.
Smoovious: besides... so what if I sign it with a signature... still doesn't prove it is me unless I get an authenticated digital signature from verisign or something, where they've verified my documents etc
Chaang-Noi: Smoovious you will learn to ignor mircea if you stay around. don't try to reason with him.
Smoovious: usagi: and he doesn't know about me. :) this verbal dance we're doing between us, is part of that learning process, while we verbally spare, and figure each other out. :)
mircea_popescu: Smoovious you're being ignorant on the matter tho. you don't need verizon to know it's you. you just need to pick a signature, declare it as yours and that's that. you can be identified as "he who picked that signature"
Smoovious: mircea_popescu: it isn't "ignorant" as such... I just don't give a shit about it
Smoovious: there's a difference between ignorance and apathy
mircea_popescu: well, the difference between ignorance and apathy is that the apathetic just let the matter drop, whereas the ignorant make false statements of fact, which then i feel compelled to counter so that noobs don't get misinformed.
Smoovious: so, I'm apathetic, and you're ignorant, is that what you're getting at?
Smoovious: and a deflection instead of a direct response... I win \o/
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.101 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [SILVER] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [B.MPCD.C] 50000 @ 0.00103331 = 51.6655 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.0034 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 39 @ 0.0999 = 3.8961 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 75 @ 0.1 = 7.5 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.101 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [B.MPCD.C] 17000 @ 0.00103333 = 17.5666 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: at least cablepair is getting some money out of bfl
mircea_popescu: wtf is going on, did the forum suddenly become useful ?
kakobrekla: round 48 you could get a spot for 1btc
Chaang-Noi: i won on accedent two slots for 1.5 so i linked it to a goat ona boat thread
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell theymos hey drop me a line, I wanna discuss something.
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITCOINMINV] 1 @ 0.115 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: the intersango/bitcoin consultancy/failed conference/etc guys
Bane_Capital: I am going to buy the Bitcoin Consultancy trademark
kakobrekla: i had some dealings with phantomcircuit
kakobrekla: thought it was ok guy at the begining but now i suspect hes an idiot
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla iirc he's the one who mailed the entire list a list of all the email addresses in the list
kakobrekla: well what i saw was a poor business ethics
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 14 @ 0.7199 = 10.0786 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.101 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 4700 @ 0.00068047 = 3.1982 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 14200 @ 0.00067821 = 9.6306 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.1 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26358 @ 0.0003959 = 10.4351 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 2 @ 0.7199 = 1.4398 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIPPT] 80 @ 0.45 = 36 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 5 @ 0.4269 = 2.1345 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 8 @ 0.72 = 5.76 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 14 @ 0.058 = 0.812 BTC [-]
Chaang-Noi: some one just went crazy with a dollar lol
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 200 @ 0.00039568 = 0.0791 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3309 @ 0.00039534 = 1.3082 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDT] 3 @ 0.98 = 2.94 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.DIV] 6 @ 0.025 = 0.15 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDK.BND] 12 @ 0.1004 = 1.2048 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00039534 = 3.9534 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21100 @ 0.00039528 = 8.3404 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28300 @ 0.00039525 = 11.1856 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 100 @ 0.0975 = 9.75 BTC [-]
Chaang-Noi: lol cpa has no assets so i wont take a contract backed by no assets, its like working with matthew and no escrow, its crazy
Chaang-Noi: i do not trust you usagi, we can put the coin in escrow then sure. im interested
Chaang-Noi: cpa has no assets they are willing to show
Chaang-Noi: i will work with you if you use escrow
Chaang-Noi: i want the full amount escrowed, i will do my side in full as well
Chaang-Noi: this is why i dont trust you, no assets no escrow
Chaang-Noi: let me know if you want to use escrow, go on claiming you can be trusted and all that, im sure people have made up their own minds...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 200 @ 0.00039557 = 0.0791 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10242 @ 0.0003959 = 4.0548 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5743 @ 0.0003978 = 2.2846 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32015 @ 0.00039821 = 12.7487 BTC [+]
Chaang-Noi: im busy man, but yeah we can agree on an escrow if you are willing to put the whole value of the assets in escrow.
Chaang-Noi: i dont sell contracts backed by secret assets...
kakobrekla: 14:46.07 ( Chaang-Noi ) i dont sell contracts backed by secret assets...
Chaang-Noi: everyone knew tygrr-p was going to priate
kakobrekla: just as everyone here knows cpa goes to usagi
Chaang-Noi: but im asking usagi for a list of assets cpa has, he says he wont show any
kakobrekla: did you ask pirate for a list of assets?
Chaang-Noi: he wants to sell insureance and have it backed by assets he claims to have
Chaang-Noi: pirate made it very clear what he was doing in his op. he was just wrong about zeek not being a ponzi lol
Chaang-Noi: usagi all i asked for was a list of asstes for cpa, cuz i was told you guys had neg balance...
Chaang-Noi: let me know if you are going to show assets or use escrow...
Chaang-Noi: cuz if you fold up, you ahve nothing to pay
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.BVPS] 96 @ 0.00445 = 0.4272 BTC [-]
Chaang-Noi: i cant just trust that you can be trusted.. thats silly
Chaang-Noi: im not saying you are going to fold, im saying it seems risky cuz you wont show assets and people say you ahve none :/
Chaang-Noi: and then you want make bets with no escrow
Chaang-Noi: past performance does not mean future results...
Chaang-Noi: all i would like to know is does cpa really ahve assets...
Chaang-Noi: real world insurance companaies have to show they have assets
Chaang-Noi: yeah, at least you are not faking your assets
Chaang-Noi: thats why i never got into cpa in the first place.
Chaang-Noi: okay, since you will not show my that you have assets i can not invest in you. and no i do not trust you. :/ you will just have to live with that
Chaang-Noi: i really do not trust you, that is the gods truth
Chaang-Noi: why would i like about nottrusting you...
Chaang-Noi: if i wanted to do insureance i would do better on my own. yeah that is true
Chaang-Noi: im not going to do it, and you would need assets to invest in my company...
Diablo-D3: you should just give all your asicminer shares to me
Chaang-Noi: usagi made a deal and wanted out, so we made a new deal...
Diablo-D3: Bane_Capital: what, for the lady boys?
Chaang-Noi: im not the one claiming to have assets, my not having assets has nothing to do with cpa having assets
Chaang-Noi: yes smoovious it was an easy question, just wanted to see if cpa had real assets :/ and then herp a derp :(
Chaang-Noi: i wanted to know why it was a rumor.. and it looks like the rumor wont go away :/ cus no assets shown.
Diablo-D3: CPA being shut down doesnt mean it doesnt have assets
Diablo-D3: it means that it just isnt profitable to run anymore
Chaang-Noi: im sorry you dont like me usagi, i take that back. im not sorry but you will ahve to live with it usagi. im not a trusting guy... im from the show me state. you need to prove you have it, i wont take your word.
Diablo-D3: Chaang-Noi: there, CPA now has more assets than you do.
Chaang-Noi: i just wanted to see if you had any assets, you made a big deal of it
Chaang-Noi: im not out of line for asking you if cpa has assets...
Diablo-D3: usagi: photso...er.. screenshot your glbse page
Chaang-Noi: and just cuz you wont show me assets dones not mean i need to go on the forum and have you shut down...
Chaang-Noi: im not here to save the world from scammers
Chaang-Noi: you dont need to be so upset for me just asking to see assets, its really not an odd question man, calm down
assbot: [GLBSE] [ZETA-MINING] 5 @ 0.2 = 1 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 1 @ 0.65 BTC [+]
zefir: ZETA-MINING: dividends for week 36.2012 paid
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.00039821 = 2.9069 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4020 @ 0.00039968 = 1.6067 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14456 @ 0.00040035 = 5.7875 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26724 @ 0.00040073 = 10.7091 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 40 @ 0.1 = 4 BTC [+]
Bane_Capital: usagi: I don't think there's a need to get defensive if you're confident in your product.
Bane_Capital: I mean, if somebody told me my life was the sound of a toilet flushing.
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 100 @ 0.1 = 10 BTC [+]
Bane_Capital: I would say I must be a pretty goddamn awesome toilet.
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.B] 1 @ 0.999 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: doc doesnt want me eating too much salt :<
assbot: [GLBSE] [RAREEARTH] 17 @ 0.00955 = 0.1624 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [SILVER] 14 @ 0.01 = 0.14 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 1922 @ 0.00068211 = 1.311 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.101 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDK.BND] 39 @ 0.1 = 3.9 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 200 @ 0.00039547 = 0.0791 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24178 @ 0.00039525 = 9.5564 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11822 @ 0.00039513 = 4.6712 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: my mom's not a girl anymore and not on the internet yet.
mircea_popescu: which btw reminds me, what's the difference between an obama supporter and a romney supporter ?
Bane_Capital: mircea_popescu: An Obama supporter is more likely to be on welfare and want to take your guns.
mircea_popescu: a romney supporter signs romney checks on the front. an obama supporter signs obama checks on the back.
Bane_Capital: Anyways, Romney is more likely to sign an assault weapons bill than Obama
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.71999999 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13878 @ 0.00039513 = 5.4836 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48422 @ 0.00039509 = 19.131 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 9200 @ 0.00067821 = 6.2395 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 600 @ 0.0034 = 2.04 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NASTY] 3 @ 0.5999 = 1.7997 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12678 @ 0.00039509 = 5.009 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21530 @ 0.00039498 = 8.5039 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 30 @ 0.0999 = 2.997 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0999 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 1 @ 0.7501 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 7 @ 0.0999 = 0.6993 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 2 @ 0.11 = 0.22 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 6 @ 0.058 = 0.348 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 3 @ 0.7501 = 2.2503 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.0999 = 0.1998 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.1 = 2 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGA.CONTRACT] 1 @ 0.0718 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BBBB] 28 @ 0.00024 = 0.0067 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.A] 1 @ 0.32 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [SILVER] 32 @ 0.01 = 0.32 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [JAH] 2 @ 0.14101 = 0.282 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [JAH] 2 @ 0.1401 = 0.2802 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MU] 2 @ 0.2699 = 0.5398 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 200 @ 0.00039613 = 0.0792 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 300 @ 0.00039663 = 0.119 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.1009 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 47 @ 0.1001 = 4.7047 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MU] 10 @ 0.27 = 2.7 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MU] 5 @ 0.27 = 1.35 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MU] 2 @ 0.27 = 0.54 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.1 = 0.2 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 5 @ 0.7002 = 3.501 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 10 @ 0.7001 = 7.001 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 81 @ 0.7 = 56.7 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.0034 = 6.8 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 200 @ 0.00039566 = 0.0791 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19370 @ 0.00039498 = 7.6508 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10430 @ 0.00039493 = 4.1191 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 4600 @ 0.00067821 = 3.1198 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 3700 @ 0.00067346 = 2.4918 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 5900 @ 0.00066973 = 3.9514 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDT] 3 @ 1.05 = 3.15 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 84 @ 0.1015 = 8.526 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 46 @ 0.10158 = 4.6727 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18247 @ 0.00039493 = 7.2063 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDK.BND] 20 @ 0.1004 = 2.008 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDK.BND] 25 @ 0.1005 = 2.5125 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDK.BND] 37 @ 0.1009 = 3.7333 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 6 @ 0.10158 = 0.6095 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 25 @ 0.1 = 2.5 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [HYDRO.BONDS] 4 @ 1.4599 = 5.8396 BTC [+]
gabbynot: a lot of shares available in the .03's
assbot: [GLBSE] [CPA] 30 @ 0.031 = 0.93 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1823 @ 0.00039493 = 0.72 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18200 @ 0.00039491 = 7.1874 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27339 @ 0.0003949 = 10.7962 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [CPA] 122 @ 0.031 = 3.782 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE:BTC-MINING] [Bid: 0.9] [Ask: 0.9969] [Spread: 0.0969] [Last: 0.9979] [24hVol: ] [7dAvg: 0.99773]
assbot: [GLBSE:BTCMC] [Bid: 0.55] [Ask: 0.5899] [Spread: 0.0399] [Last: 0.5898] [24hVol: ] [7dAvg: 0.5568875]
assbot: [GLBSE:OBSI.ABMO] [Bid: 0.00010001] [Ask: 0.1] [Spread: 0.09989999] [Last: 0.1] [24hVol: 0.2] [7dAvg: 0.088875]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 3 @ 0.7199 = 2.1597 BTC [+]
smickles: nav is net asset value per share, actually
mircea_popescu: Diablo-D3 nav is not "future asset value". it's present asset value.
Diablo-D3: what does that have to do with anything?
gabbynot: it's moe of a mutual fund term
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: if you want future nav per share, its probably somewhere in the 10btc each range
smickles: gabbynot: true, book value per share, may be a better measure
Diablo-D3: hey, how do you make the bot tell you how many shares are below a certain price
smickles: but that has other implications too
smickles: also, if i read that correctly, cpa doesn't report it's financials in such a way as to calculate a book value per share
gabbynot: i'm just curious to see a balance sheet .03ish *might* be a good buy if the numbers look good
assbot: [GLBSE] [CPA] 32 @ 0.031 = 0.992 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [HYDRO.BONDS] 1 @ 1.46 BTC [+]
gabbynot: usagi: did CPA insure Hashking's deposits at all?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10861 @ 0.0003949 = 4.289 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16849 @ 0.00039486 = 6.653 BTC [-]
gabbynot: i hope he pays *something* to people
gabbynot: i see nav of nyan.b is down a bit
smickles: what sort of income is that personal share transfer?
smickles: i'm not sure i would consider additional investment as covering a decline
gabbynot: did anyone actually think matthew would pay?
smickles: usagi: why should i not consider you sending assets to nyan.b without any personal gain, anything b ut cooking the books?
sgnb: bitcoincharts.com is down... funny that we talked about it being down just yesterday
DeaDTerra: I am officially boss by giving usagi a idea without even knowing the idea myself! :D
mircea_popescu: e had a kernel panic within the MD layer of the linux kernel. Service will be restored within the next 7 days.
sgnb: it's what is published on their website
mircea_popescu: well, at the time it was only showing nginx/bad gateway
smickles: usagi: you said yourself the goal was to pump up nyan, and without proper accounting of it (i.e, you just giveing the shares to nyan) that sounds like cooking the books
smickles: so it's not a capital investment?
smickles: yeah, you actually told me it was a capital investment, not 5 min ago :/
mircea_popescu: i don't imagine the guy has a clue. he was an expert on ito integrals earlier, now he can't do basic accounting.
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 1 @ 0.4269 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 1 @ 0.427 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 1 @ 0.09577 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.B] 1 @ 0.99 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26551 @ 0.00039486 = 10.4839 BTC [-]
smickles: usagi: am i to understand that the operations you are involved in rely on you donating to them to stay afloat?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30917 @ 0.00039483 = 12.207 BTC [-]
smickles: i guess i'm missing somthing her, sorry usagi
assbot: [GLBSE:FDBF] [Bid: 0.01200001] [Ask: 0.15] [Spread: 0.13799999] [Last: 0.15] [24hVol: 2.25] [7dAvg: 0.14998956]
smickles: then why isn't it a capital investmen?
smickles: so, then, usagi, it takes your personal funds being donated to these operations for them to work?
smickles: i'm just not at all used to hearing of a officer's personal funds going into things as donations
smickles: it looks bad because it looks like unethical practice
smickles: making financial look better than they are
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 5 @ 0.042 = 0.21 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.042 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: and all those people become dmc shareholders.
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 85 @ 0.040001 = 3.4001 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: I am not able to give a timeframe on the repayment as there is alot of factors that can effect it. I know for sure it won't be
mircea_popescu: weeks or months, but more then likely in the ballpark of 3 years.
Diablo-D3: usagi: Im going to put a motion up to end dividends until NAV reaches 1
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4083 @ 0.00039483 = 1.6121 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17817 @ 0.00039481 = 7.0343 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BMF] 1 @ 0.579 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: PsychoticBoy this is sad tho. seems one thing a week, pirate then shtylman dood now this...
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 49 @ 0.042 = 2.058 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [CPA] 1 @ 0.022 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [CPA] 1 @ 0.021 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 3 @ 0.10158 = 0.3047 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 36 @ 0.040001 = 1.44 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 27 @ 0.04 = 1.08 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 60 @ 0.04 = 2.4 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 10 @ 0.051 = 0.51 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: plus about 100 btc a month in dividends
blazing1: is anyone else getting GPUmax email invites?
Chaang-Noi: yes gpumax invites are going out but they have no work
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 158 @ 0.0330001 = 5.214 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: I am not informing you of a crucial step
Diablo-D3: usagi: but I bet I could do this in under a year.
Diablo-D3: PsychoticBoy_: actually its been working great
Diablo-D3: I've pretty much guaranteed the future of the plan.
Diablo-D3: shareholders will make out like bandits with this
Diablo-D3: psychoticBoy: I think you misunderstood
Diablo-D3: they will make large amounts of money
Diablo-D3: PsychoticBoy_: okay, its sorta like this
Diablo-D3: PsychoticBoy_: you can say whatever you want
Diablo-D3: but unless I buy out shareholders for 1btc per share, Im pretty sure I'd be ripping people off
Diablo-D3: PsychoticBoy_: you do realize DMC soon will be selling web services for btc, right?
Diablo-D3: rg has been trying to get into it but failed
Diablo-D3: PsychoticBoy_: hey, you want to help dmc?
Diablo-D3: make theymos put a scammer tag on my forum account
Diablo-D3: DMC prices will reach 10btc if you do that
assbot: !pl <ticker> [<amount>@]<bought at> [<YYYY-MM-DD>]
assbot: Requesting data from GLBSE (might take a while, also might return fishy results as it does not account for splits etc).
assbot: DMC [1@BTC] paid: 0.02635814 BTC. Last price: 0.03510001 BTC. Capital gain: 0.03510001 BTC. Total: 0.06145815 BTC. (-100%)
Diablo-D3: CPA cant afford to insure DMC, really
assbot: [GLBSE] [CPA] 1 @ 0.029 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [CPA] 5 @ 0.031 = 0.155 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [CPA] 1 @ 0.031 BTC [+]
PsychoticBoy_: I Will not matter how on earth can you possibly insure crap
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15101 @ 0.00039472 = 5.9607 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 8 @ 0.1 = 0.8 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE:FDBF] [Bid: 0.01200001] [Ask: 0.15] [Spread: 0.13799999] [Last: 0.15] [24hVol: 1.8] [7dAvg: 0.14998956]
Diablo-D3: usagi: take your time, if I do it, its after obsi pays dividends
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 1 @ 0.09577 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.065 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.1 = 0.6 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [B.MPCD.C] 12000 @ 0.00103417 = 12.41 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 24 @ 0.1002 = 2.4048 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 52 @ 0.1001 = 5.2052 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 10 @ 0.1001 = 1.001 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 18 @ 0.100001 = 1.8 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 400 @ 0.1 = 40 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 2 @ 0.1 = 0.2 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 3500 @ 0.1 = 350 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 600 @ 0.1 = 60 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 5 @ 0.1 = 0.5 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 120 @ 0.1 = 12 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.1 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 27 @ 0.1 = 2.7 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MMM] 3 @ 0.85 = 2.55 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.1 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1750 @ 0.1 = 175 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 140 @ 0.1 = 14 BTC [-]
rg: [12:38] <mircea_popescu> lmao how has rg failed ?!
rg: we gave up on dedicated sales
rg: it was costing us more per month to setup the servers and get them running
rg: cause no one ever cancels
rg: the accounts just go overdue
rg: and your host, diablo, charges $5/day on late fees
rg: so we'd make $50 on the server, then give back $25 in late fees cause customersn ever cancel
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 540 @ 0.1 = 54 BTC [-]
rg: that's why i wish you the best selling dedis for btc
rg: cause its a losing game
rg: step 1. host where bitvps hosts
Diablo-D3: rg: I dont have to worry about $5/day late
rg: whatever nenolod/bdwarr tells you
rg: just wait til steve hears it
rg: nenolod/bdawrr are employees
rg: and what steve says, goes
rg: regardless of wat bdwarr/nenolod say
rg: i dont see how your cron job is going to do anything
assbot: [GLBSE] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.075 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: 1 second past failure to pay, dedi is ended.
rg: yes but 1 second past failure
rg: you order the box, the customer pays
rg: the dates arent synced
rg: cause you ordered it a day before they paid
rg: so your billing date is 1 day before theirs
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 200 @ 0.00039608 = 0.0792 BTC [+]
rg: so when theyre late 1 day
Diablo-D3: since at that point Ive already made them 3 days late.
Diablo-D3: rg: how much were you paying for dedis?
Diablo-D3: I mean, how much % off due to bulk reselling
rg: i got the e3 1230 (not v2) with 16gb ram and 2tb
rg: and the v2 is an extra 10 bucsk
rg: and for the dual quad e5, i pay $400 incl 128 ips/raid card/4x1tb
rg: what's a six core called?
rg: and then theres those i7's
rg: i could probbaly get for free
rg: but selling servers is a hassle
assbot: [GLBSE] [MMM] 2 @ 0.9 = 1.8 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 8400 @ 0.00066678 = 5.601 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: rg: wait, why the fuck are you getting those cheaper than me
Diablo-D3: PsychoticBoy_: but its pirate themed!
mircea_popescu: Diablo-D3> rg: wait, why the fuck are you getting those cheaper than me <<< epic.
Diablo-D3: rg: I'd end up paying $135/mo for the e3-1230v2 16gb 2tb
PsychoticBoy_: Its called that because we ( paladon and i) are dutch
assbot: [GLBSE] [JLP-BMD] 2 @ 0.081 = 0.162 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MERGEDMINING] 10 @ 0.062 = 0.62 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.1 = 2 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.1 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 293 @ 0.103 = 30.179 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 86 @ 0.104 = 8.944 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FDBF] 4 @ 0.15 = 0.6 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 1 @ 0.115 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 180 @ 0.1 = 18 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 14 @ 0.104 = 1.456 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 100 @ 0.105 = 10.5 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 100 @ 0.106 = 10.6 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 100 @ 0.107 = 10.7 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.107 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FUTUREFUND] 12 @ 0.000123 = 0.0015 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FUTUREFUND] 2 @ 0.000123 = 0.0002 BTC [+]
rg: Diablo-D3: that's not too bad
rg: mind you it also comes with IPMI, etc
rg: lots of hosts dont do that
rg: enzu's internal network is only 100mbit
rg: i remember transferring VM data was like pulling teeth with a spoon
Diablo-D3: rg: btw, they just raised their prices
Diablo-D3: so you'd be paying what I would be now
rg: cause i 'just' got a new box
rg: 'no customer 1 never got that price'
rg: 'but you did, so you should pay it'
rg: it reminds me of that scene
rg: and you would go and run to them about prices
rg: 'wahhh im gonna taddle cause someone else got ab etter price'
Diablo-D3: rg: no, I was going to try to press him for better prices and pocket it
rg: thats.. what i just said
rg: and tried to use it agains them
Diablo-D3: I went IM THE BAUS, you went MY LITTLE PONY, MY LITTLE PONY
rg: and also why i dont like discussing money
rg: cause if you knew what i really paid
rg: you'd cry like a little bitch
rg: 'but i also do things for them
rg: and that's the reason why
Diablo-D3: rg: btw, know of anyone reselling absolute shit vpses but cheap?
rg: check out serverdeals.org
rg: they have a reseller program
rg: if you sell a decent amount
rg: you will get a bunch of discounts
rg: but theyre OpenVZ only
rg: i contemplated doing it cause our chi node is filled
Diablo-D3: usagi: erm, you do realize we both work with the same companies, right?
rg: Diablo-D3: also serverdeals has nice support
rg: theres one dude who does all my stuff
Diablo-D3: usagi: I've known nenolod for about 9000 years, nenolod now works for the company Im doing business with
rg: charles always anwers
rg: usagi: diablo-d3 decided to open a company
rg: in the same DC as bitvps
rg: obviously a direct attack on me
rg: but hes going to fail anyway so im not worried
Diablo-D3: yes, its a direct attack on bitvps
Diablo-D3: its so direct that rg is just going to get dedis from me
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 3 @ 0.115 = 0.345 BTC [+]
rg: Diablo-D3: i actually wa gonna do that
rg: but i get better pricing
rg: but it also might be worht it
rg: cause i have my hands full wit bitvps spport
rg: most of its easy shit
rg: but still shit that needs completing none the less
Diablo-D3: rg: btw, you take shit in btc right? how did you setup billing?
rg: Diablo-D3: all our prices are decided in USD
rg: and every 5 minutes it pulls the 24hr avg from mtgox
rg: and readjusts the price/invoics
rg: we tried to do a completely BTC business
rg: prices in btc, no usd
rg: but that lasted about a month
rg: a month and $600 later
Diablo-D3: what are you using for the invoicing?
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10004 @ 0.00039472 = 3.9488 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5596 @ 0.00039466 = 2.2085 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: rg: because Im wondering if bitinstant can actually do the job for the payment gateway and then glue a standard enterprise invoicing kit on top
rg: [14:16] <usagi> It looks like a PERL script.
Diablo-D3: if you throw enough awk and sed in.. whats the difference?
Diablo-D3: rg: bitinstant has that walmart shit going on
assbot: [GLBSE] [BFLS] 1 @ 0.9 BTC [-]
rg: # if the files exist, get rid of them, they're stale
rg: if test -f /tmp/price;then
rg: if test -f /tmp/updates.sql;then
rg: rm -rf /tmp/updates.sql
rg: # run the script to update all the prices
Diablo-D3: rg: I can go to 7-11, cvs, or walmart
rg: # commit those changes to the backend
rg: mysql -u readonly_whm -pmcGURKin whm < /tmp/updates.sq
rg: way to paste a password rg
rg: if you're going to use whmcs
rg: you dontn eed bitpay at all
rg: i suggest using kreals service
rg: he has whmcs plugins too
rg: and if something goes wrong you can complain @ him on irc
rg: and they've moved into payment processing
rg: ive used it, its pretty good
rg: in spite of being from denmark
Diablo-D3: nothing stops me from adding all three
rg: id stay away from WHMCS
rg: it took a LONG time to get it working the way we have it
rg: MUCH trial and *error*
assbot: [GLBSE] [NASTY] 2 @ 0.5999 = 1.1998 BTC [-]
rg: netxshare wrote a whole ordering system in PHP
rg: it only took him a day
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.1 BTC [-]
rg: i suggest PHP cause if you use PHP your job is already half done
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 8 @ 0.501001 = 4.008 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: dude, I have been using perl for like a decade
Diablo-D3: with cpan, my job has probably already done 5 times
rg: jsonrpc.php already exists
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.B] 4 @ 0.99 = 3.96 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.108 = 0.324 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 40 @ 0.0999 = 3.996 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 1 @ 0.09577 BTC [+]
rg: i guess i can put an IPO up on gbse
rg: about my pot grownig operatin
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 240 @ 0.1 = 24 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 15 @ 0.003395 = 0.0509 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: rg: so which of us can do cheaper vps?
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 1 @ 0.7995 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 4 @ 0.79978998 = 3.1992 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.B] 6 @ 0.99 = 5.94 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: rg: how much money do you personally make off of this?
Diablo-D3: usagi: you just made little to no sense.
Diablo-D3: usagi: that has nothing to do with an invoicing and billing frontend though
Diablo-D3: usagi: do you realize why amazon is basically the king of expensive overpriced webs hit?
rg: amazon is just a name
rg: that's why people use it
Diablo-D3: amazon's cloud services are a recent thing
Diablo-D3: they're not the first nor the first major one
rg: Amazon announced a limited public beta of EC2 on August 25, 2006
Diablo-D3: yes, and I was personally doing fault tolerant parallel multi-site storage in the late 90s.
rg: that doesnt change ec2's start date
Diablo-D3: no, but im saying, they're not an early player
Diablo-D3: and then you have to question if ec2 itself counts as a cloud service
Diablo-D3: since its just hands free vps allocation
Diablo-D3: but thats not what Im talking about anyways, so lets rewind here
Diablo-D3: amazon is fucking popular, even though their shit is the most expensive of any major offering, because
Diablo-D3: [03:20:28] <Diablo-D3> amazon is fucking popular, even though their shit is the most expensive of any major offering, because
Diablo-D3: [03:20:33] <Diablo-D3> they make it look good.
Diablo-D3: the experience is smooth and flawless.
Diablo-D3: they appled it, they ciscoed it, they sunned it.
Diablo-D3: jcpham: yes, amazon uses linux everywhere
Diablo-D3: usagi: everything, even down to their fucking billing system, its perfect
Diablo-D3: jcpham: Ive been using linux as my primary desktop os for almost 15 years
Diablo-D3: so, yes, it happened. awhile back.
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDK.BND] 60 @ 0.1009 = 6.054 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 200 @ 0.00039553 = 0.0791 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9816 @ 0.00039466 = 3.874 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: usagi: so dont tell me that i can just scrap together a shitty billing system and be happy with it
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 9 @ 0.501 = 4.509 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 9 @ 0.461 = 4.149 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 9 @ 0.401 = 3.609 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 10 @ 0.4 = 4 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 9 @ 0.331 = 2.979 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 4 @ 0.3011 = 1.2044 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDK.BND] 2 @ 0.1009 = 0.2018 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43022 @ 0.00039466 = 16.9791 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11078 @ 0.00039459 = 4.3713 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.103 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 42 @ 0.103 = 4.326 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 31 @ 0.1 = 3.1 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDT] 8 @ 1.049 = 8.392 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FDBF] 1 @ 0.15 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 7 @ 0.003395 = 0.0238 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 1 @ 0.7505 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 1 @ 0.7501 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 10 @ 0.7501 = 7.501 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 10 @ 0.75 = 7.5 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 100 @ 0.101 = 10.1 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 11149 @ 0.00066573 = 7.4222 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 11520 @ 0.00066505 = 7.6614 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 1 @ 0.79978998 BTC [+]
gribble: Time since last block: 4 minutes and 49 seconds
assbot: [GLBSE] [THUNDERCM.MIF.SHARES] 2 @ 0.3971 = 0.7942 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 5600 @ 0.00064896 = 3.6342 BTC [-]
rg: its so funny to see what people run on their VPS
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6656 @ 0.00039459 = 2.6264 BTC [-]
PsychoticBoy: Matthew and Pirateat40 are finally marked as SCAMMER this means Matthew N Wright is no longer mod/staff member on the forum :D
rg: why is matthew a scammer?
rg: i thought he was legit
PsychoticBoy: now the question is will anybody recieve the next issue of bitcoin magazin?
rg: www.firenzee.com/howthemightyhavefallen.jpg
rg: for your viewing pleasure
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 8 @ 0.003395 = 0.0272 BTC [-]
gribble: Error: "lastseen" is not a valid command.
gribble: nefario was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 day, 20 hours, 51 minutes, and 24 seconds ago: <nefario> it's too much of a conflict of interest
assbot: [GLBSE] [MU] 1 @ 0.2698 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.1011 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 5 @ 0.1011 = 0.5055 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MU] 1 @ 0.2699 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MU] 1 @ 0.2699 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.102 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [DMC] 1 @ 0.0649999 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.1011 BTC [+]