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asciilifeform: i'm not in terrible hurry
trinque: eh, not like I'm *recommending* it, but do you have something that'll grunt out an SVG?
asciilifeform: i refuse to use bitmaps for the matholade in ffa, cuz retarded ( not searchable + looks like shit on 3 out of 4 people's displays no matter what you do )
trinque: I'll admit it was a knee-jerk reaction to the zombie bioreactor. Possibly there are much better ways to shut it down.
a111: Logged on 2018-12-11 17:06 trinque: where is the environmentalist outcry for nuking the congo, I ask.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-11#1879580 << i don't get it, why would you nuke it ? ☝︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform im not reading all that, but i also don't believe i need to.
mircea_popescu: because totally, that's what i'm going to spend my resources on. passing tests the females came up with.
mircea_popescu: yeah, right, "how will females test for fitness", i gotta wear italian pagliacci pointed shoes and generally http://trilema.com/2016/the-%D0%BA%D0%B2%D0%B0%D1%81-bdsm-party/#footnote_0_68337
asciilifeform: i've spoken with jp folk, they see the notion as roughly similar to how anglos see orlol's phonetic alphabet thing
mircea_popescu: i suppose.
asciilifeform: mcarthur tried to ban hieroglyphs, it went nowhere, sorta how peter I was able to cut the 30 redundant greek chars from ru alphabet, but still left 6 or so turds
mircea_popescu: i dunno, afaik it's how they write particles and things, but as an aid to the idiotic uselesness of "proper" writing, not by itself.
asciilifeform: they 'fixed' in the 9th century . problem as usual is the entrenched mass of 'i had to hieroglyph, so let the son also'
asciilifeform: i'm unequipped to say whether cn 'understood nuke', but the apparent total absence of indigenous cpu arch does tell tales
mircea_popescu: i am unconvinced.
asciilifeform: tho i'll point out that cn nuke is half century old.
mircea_popescu: i'm sure there's 500000 teenaged boys all over nation of africa having "alt mp". heck, nicoleci found one.
mircea_popescu: i am not talking "Bee nuke". i am talking nuke, the actual physical item as reality permits.
asciilifeform: ants prolly not, but for all i know, ~bees~ do. ( 'mysterious' fungus wiping out colonies could very well be 'bee nuke', spread 'deliberately', supposing they could... )
mircea_popescu: "it's not nuclear force, it's phlogiston i'm telling you" ?
asciilifeform: all i can add , is that i get a coupla MB of phuctor traffic from cn on a typical day.
mircea_popescu: and by "a guy" i mean a whole community on a forum somewhere.
mircea_popescu could certainly be wrong ; but it certainly couldn't be the case that i'd be wrong in such a way "as nobody could ever know".
mircea_popescu: if you'd be right, we'd have discovered a #trilema not twice the size (as yellow man pop vs white man pop) but >20 times the size (because hey, efficiency, yes ?). and by size i do not mean headcount.
mircea_popescu: i am by now well persuaded that this is a place where it ~didn't~ happen.
trinque: where is the environmentalist outcry for nuking the congo, I ask. ☟︎
asciilifeform: roquefort penicillum , if you will, for buildings ? i can picture.
BingoBoingo: I mean as in angle, no way the local homes could take much snow
asciilifeform: i bet pitch also in that cocktail.
asciilifeform: i dun think there's anywhere in e.g. usa where you could smell it, even if it were there you couldn't pick it up past the exhaust gas and garbage
asciilifeform: i dun know precisely what is in it, prolly aging plaster, wood, flats fulla old b00kz..
asciilifeform: when i was in timis i walked around and, among other things... smelled the houses. it passed litmus. ( even tho last time i smelled the magic smell was 25y ago ! )
asciilifeform: laugh if ya like, but i can even distinguish 'correct' bldgs by... smell
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: yea i saw 0 from that tower that passed isCivilized()
asciilifeform: i saw a coupla also
BingoBoingo: Anyways, now I have to explain she was seeing Argentina's version of my barrio trying to compensate for its lack of beach, while Argentina in general is more like her barrio.
BingoBoingo: And today I learned there is a "Highland" in Indiana too
mircea_popescu: (yes, i'm kinda fishing for someone to go "it's 13 x 17 and you know, you're cheating by picking these, illustrating human stupidity not objective hardness".)
diana_coman: uhm, eleven-ness was 232 sort of thing i.e. ..ah, I see vs 223
diana_coman: I kind of suspect it's either pressure on the spot or people not really used to mental maths
diana_coman: come to think of it re 221 I don't get it; even without a calc, still: 2 no because odd, 3 no because 2+2+1=5, 5 no because 1 at end, 7 no because 21, then 11, 11 no because 22, 1, 13 takes a bit perhaps but...
diana_coman: well, they obv had their laptops and whatnot, so yeah, I counted on "with calcs" hence larger
mircea_popescu: i dunno wtf is with it.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, I was expecting them to be even harder to get to so overall I'm quite pleased with it; now if at least one of them actually *does* something too as a result, that'd be already bonus
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, that might be it re mic - while I can certainly screech if try, I usually don't; never had problems with audience not hearing me but the recording ugh
mircea_popescu: i can be heard just fine in 500 hall. and hallway. ha-HA!
diana_coman: I'd call it more of a seminar at best
asciilifeform: i did not have many lectures like that
diana_coman: basically I could have a chat with them all and I know their faces already without any trouble
diana_coman: they were "supposed to be 40" I've been told afterwards
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: fwiw 'lapel mic' was standard issue even at asciilifeform's uni in early 2000s. so i have nfi re the brits
diana_coman: but yeah, it can't be that much; anyways, it's done, not as if I'm running after making presentations, ugh;
asciilifeform: speaking of optics, asciilifeform replaced the sad webcam thing bolted to the torture room iron pole with a modern-day 25megapixel thing. should make for some decent shots once i get that bolix...
diana_coman: yeah, I did not even consider getting the gear myself - if they weren't so inept re org I'd have just ask the uni to provide, wtf
mircea_popescu: i dunno how into this you are, but if you like it might as well gear up.
diana_coman: but how clear; well, at any rate I can always try it again, won't hurt; I *did* consider it but remembered last time I cursed at such a "recording" and ...
mircea_popescu: yeah but i mean, even half decent mic can capture a room.
mircea_popescu: i usually get kinda ok ones. or got, before moving on to live dactilographist before moving on to not doing these anymore.
diana_coman: I also move quite a lot actually, I don't tend to sit by the laptop or anything of the sort
a111: Logged on 2018-12-10 23:36 diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-10#1879331 -> I just looked and apparently I misspoke re number - that was counting all the UDP tests I made too, so no, overall not *that* many; at any rate, after the UDP test finished, the tcpdump kept on listening and I got this: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/oonKc/?raw=true
a111: Logged on 2018-12-10 23:13 trinque: guess what, I'm an idjit and used sha vdiff, it appears! hashes are where mine differs from diana_coman
a111: Logged on 2018-12-10 19:41 asciilifeform: 1st time i hear of india programmer type trying to mircea_popescuate
mircea_popescu: i'm sorry, i'm reading the log in order lol.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i dunno, some packing peanuts engineer
asciilifeform: i have heard they're tryin' to edge into the spam dc market
diana_coman: for completeness, the tcpdump cmd was this: tcpdump -i eth0 udp port 7000 -vv -X
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: at your earliest convenience, plz route all packets having unassigned ip as destionation, to the 2nd nic on dulap, i'd like to make 'radiotelescope' for martian udp there
diana_coman: as it's all pizarro anyway I suppose you can just set up some testing if you want more details on that
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-10#1879331 -> I just looked and apparently I misspoke re number - that was counting all the UDP tests I made too, so no, overall not *that* many; at any rate, after the UDP test finished, the tcpdump kept on listening and I got this: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/oonKc/?raw=true ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: trinque: i think my box from last test also had no /dev/shm
diana_coman: kk; meanwhile I still have on the list to figure out what's the diff that messes up the python installation thing on the other machine...
trinque: ah, nope, few other differences besides that. I'll work through this and report what I find.
trinque: guess what, I'm an idjit and used sha vdiff, it appears! hashes are where mine differs from diana_coman ☟︎
diana_coman: np, let me know if there's anything else I can provide to help
diana_coman: now I'm even curious if it's the same as bvt's
diana_coman: trinque, the cuntoo genesis .vpatch I got is at http://ossasepia.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/genesis_2018_12_10.vpatch
diana_coman: well yes, clear is clear for who has any idea ; but tbh I think it was the first time they really got *any* idea re crypto at all
diana_coman: and for that matter I did not even mention rsa by name
asciilifeform: i suppose it was the usual veggie undergrad audience, then
diana_coman: criticism welcome - I'll take notes for next time basically
a111: Logged on 2018-12-10 19:38 mircea_popescu: speaking of which : https://i.ibb.co/rcgdpmC/Screenshot-29.png << should be fun to see how "BDSM Liberals" take it.
asciilifeform: 1st time i hear of india programmer type trying to mircea_popescuate ☟︎
mircea_popescu: speaking of which : https://i.ibb.co/rcgdpmC/Screenshot-29.png << should be fun to see how "BDSM Liberals" take it. ☟︎☟︎
bvt: trinque: i also have problems verifying the genesis.vpatch that i got from running ./bootstrap.sh. 1 question: which exactly vdiff should i use? the one from vtools or from http://barksinthewind.com/2018/vdiff-fixes/ ?
bvt: hello, i'm back in the saddle. i intend to finish the ada syscalls around next weekend (23.12)
diana_coman: anyways, now I'm kind of curious whether any of them actually makes a key and shows up in #eulora or somewhere
diana_coman: you know, I asked the prof to take at least some pictures and he was so intently following that he...forgot; had to ask him at the end to take at least 2, lol
diana_coman: I'll publish the slides and all
diana_coman: asciilifeform, basically "what is bitcoin" + innovation vs subversion and I used WoT + V as examples; the WoT sparked a ton of questions
diana_coman: I'll get around to do a write-up hopefully
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i suspect it was operator error, meanwhile fixed. soz.
trinque: I'll want to root out the indeterminism in the script (timestamp? machine name?) and rerelease
a111: Logged on 2018-12-10 14:06 diana_coman: trinque, after fixing my vdiff on the laptop, I re-run the cuntoo script; it finished fine and it produced a 4.7M genesis.vpatch but the sig does NOT verify ("BAD signature")
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-10#1879324 << interesting, please paste or upload so I can diff with mine. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-12-10 09:40 diana_coman: I just left a tcpdump running and it seems to have gotten 428k of those over 2 months
diana_coman: I read it as "more of those 'you should prefer that' " so I ignored it entirely; from what I saw, current gentoo whines similarly of all sorts and in copious quantities
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes that was a putative as-to-the-eventual-future discussion. i'm not aware we have static lamp, though it's not yet clear it strictly can't be done.
diana_coman: let me know if there is some specific info I can provide to help re diff perhaps
diana_coman: trinque, after fixing my vdiff on the laptop, I re-run the cuntoo script; it finished fine and it produced a 4.7M genesis.vpatch but the sig does NOT verify ("BAD signature") ☟︎