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mircea_popescu: the problem isn't "princeton is tendril of XXX". the problem is "if princeton didn't suck it would have been in here."
asciilifeform: whereas anything demonstrably separate from the octopus, and that resists it, is a valuable thing.
asciilifeform: princeton is a tendril of the octopus.
mircea_popescu: the notion that random-dorks may make "their own" l1 is not unlike the proposition princeton made its own alt-world in which it is relevant and "Blockchain technologees".
mircea_popescu: that's my whole fucking point, i need another set of "oh, we have slavegirls! no they can't dance and what is this cocksucking ? BANNED BY GOD!!11" bullshit.
asciilifeform: whole point is that they are own l1.
mircea_popescu: "man... i forgot what i was tryinna do!"
mircea_popescu: till then, they work as well as drinking gasoline works.
mircea_popescu: how about we let a chechen join the wot, make it to the lordship, then he can tell us they work if they do.
asciilifeform: they work, as far as i can tell.
mircea_popescu: i thought you didn't think they worked.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-01 23:12 asciilifeform: and in re last thread also, i know of 0 examples of anybody pulling this kind of thing off using strictly volunteers having no blood relation.
asciilifeform: hassids, however: work. ( e.g. http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-01#1561673 thread ) ☝︎
mircea_popescu: theirein included, the "our democracy" aparatchicks.
mircea_popescu: i don't think anyone imagines natostan works
asciilifeform: 'die for a fat broad's right to marry her dog' (tm)(r)(trilema)
mircea_popescu: again, historical accident dun enact engineering lest we end up building planes of roof since tornado happened.
asciilifeform: 'die for mcshitburger' ain't working out so well for the anglotards.
mircea_popescu: i don't think it worked on anyone but illiterate peasants, that trick.
a111: Logged on 2017-04-16 05:36 mircea_popescu: teach the girls to whore and the boys to die, that's all the nation you'll ever need or for that matter want.
asciilifeform: in 18th c it was their dour churches.
mircea_popescu: i don't think so.
asciilifeform: deculturated wonders automagically create a tv.
a111: Logged on 2017-04-15 01:17 mircea_popescu: i expect about half are white, unsexed, males in their 30s +- 8 years.
mircea_popescu: once "doing independent thing" became watching tv (a subset thereof http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-15#1643888 are -- they're exactly IDENTICAL to middle aged women, watching their favourite tv dramas)... ☝︎
mircea_popescu: it worked while they worked it.
asciilifeform: usa was , at its root, a massive test of 'hey nations are bogus, nobody needs, let's all be Independent People Doing Own Thing'
mircea_popescu: (note that this is also exactly THE OPPOSITE of what every "nation" aims or attempts)
mircea_popescu: teach the girls to whore and the boys to die, that's all the nation you'll ever need or for that matter want. ☟︎
asciilifeform: 'healthy breeding cow pool that sometimes produces people' as old mircea_popescu article put it.
asciilifeform: they're the pilot light.
mircea_popescu: nations are for people too stupid to have been born this century.
mircea_popescu: so then lettuce leave this 1800s hillarytardism rot in the 1800s.
asciilifeform: i dun see appeal of inhabiting fictional nations any moar than mircea_popescu does.
mircea_popescu: and for that matter i don't recall you being much of a "nation of ukr" either.
asciilifeform: the 19th c. 'nationbuildings' were bogus, is obvious to blind man.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this i can picture.
mircea_popescu: there's certainly no such thing as "the ardeal nation"
mircea_popescu: anyway. i'm transylvanian if anything, which is an ethic group, if you must, and which has about as much to do with "romania" as say http://trilema.com/2013/the-greatest-accomplishments-of-the-french/#comment-92869
mod6: Looks pretty solid to me.
mod6: asciilifeform: aha. ok, just read about that on the `ent' page. mine was: Monte Carlo value for Pi is 3.141730891 (error 0.00 percent).
mircea_popescu: if you're definition of a nation is a language then you're very much not talking of the same thing as in the case of best korea.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: says the d00d from whose www i learned enough ro to read , e.g., 'silver boar' hunt poem and 1,001 other cultural treasures from 'imaginary nation'
asciilifeform: mod6: most of'em are essentially montecarlos of various sorts, and result is judged by how close to 'expected'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: everyone i ever met who was worth knowing was a product (and typically escapee from) a healthy , traditional nation. not deculturated ???s, no.
mod6: i'd like to get more familiar with the types of statistical tests from `ent` and `dieharder`.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform just because the ustard is a sad excuse for monkey nation does not imply we'll now accept the turd soup of "nations" does it ?
asciilifeform: mod6: it helps to recall, also, what 'dieharder' and similar tools are actually ~for~.
mats: i look forward to watching riots in vr
mod6: asciilifeform: werd. anyway, it's exciting to test these.
mod6: <+asciilifeform> NOW if it happens with all of the units in mod6 's parcel, and ~every~ run -- then problem. << this is key too. i'll perhaps collect another 1Gb+ a few more times from that initial first one and report back on the ent/dh results too.
asciilifeform: mod6: neato, i look forward to reading
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i can't say i personally much relish nations, but the alternative seems to be 'atomized' people who are deculturated to the point of qualifying for simian cage in zoo, and crushed by megastate like insects when needed.
mircea_popescu: doh. they're the fat whores.
mod6: i'll be testing the other ones and will report back how the ent/dh results look on each.
mats: the 'antifa' people are all out of shape compared to the other guys on scene
mod6: <+asciilifeform> incidentally i'd be curious to hear if anybody's ever seen a dieharder output on something that isn't a prng or prng-whitened trng, that consistently produced no 'weak'. << werd.
mircea_popescu: i suppose the commie dorks forgot what all happened to the guys hitler's sa practiced on.
mats: some riot clips from today: when antifa tries to build a wall https://twitter.com/TEN_GOP/status/853357068149022721 leled at beer belly guy wearing a 'captain america'-themed t shirt
mod6: <+asciilifeform> and spiffy scope, mod6 << thx!
mircea_popescu: from experience it always works out to "we'll link up to protect our stupidity in a group of idiots"
mircea_popescu: can't say i'm all too keen on the nation bullshit.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-01 22:30 asciilifeform: but to appreciate it, you'd have to actually think re subj and not simply swallow south kr (usg) nonsense
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-01#1561581 << see also thread. ☝︎
asciilifeform: which is why their attempts to build cheap, effective usg navy erasers is painted as 'aggression'
asciilifeform: total rejection of the lizard cathedral.
asciilifeform: it is currently the only nation ( and, yes, unlike, e.g., usa, it is a nation) with industry but no mcdonalds, no riaa, and no harvard sons.
asciilifeform: which is why they've been trying to rm -rf northkr since '50s
mats: guess you could put a couple divisions to work shooting people and digging holes...
mats: the border with dprk is enormous, how do you unfuck the refugee problem
a111: Logged on 2017-04-16 04:51 mats: what would the party want with dprk anyways, they'd be picking up the tab for an entire generation
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-16#1644428 << lizards are at war with the very concept of sovereignty. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: you know, just like the usg wouldn't sell it anything but the dregs for a century.
mircea_popescu: not like china believes in free market in the sense of selling you anything but the dregs.
mircea_popescu: hence the earlier comment re "buy ssds whole they still exist"
mircea_popescu: eh amnd what's that gonna do. bl;ow up a parking lot ?
mats: great excuse to annex a wealthy neighbor experiencing a fictitious civil war, under the pretense of martial law
mats: but the use of, say, one of those long-lost ussr suitcase nukes in uncertain circumstances, well...
mircea_popescu: according to everyone, everyone else dun it.
mircea_popescu: if anyone "uses" one there'll be auto-allocated responsibiolity. just like in the case of assad.
mats: i agree that its unlikely anyone will use a nuke and claim responsibility for it
mircea_popescu: i dunno, don't ask me, there's a reason i don't try to run a geostate.
mats: what would the party want with dprk anyways, they'd be picking up the tab for an entire generation ☟︎
mircea_popescu: it ain't ever getting sold because it's more valuable as a tool to control the children than it'd ever fetch on the market.
mircea_popescu: nobody ever will. nukes are a unique item that a) doesn't work and b) everyone thinks it does. it's the exact equivalent of the "valuable inheritance".
mats: perhaps mr. trump will let a nuke off the chain
mircea_popescu: if china decides to annex korea, both of them, who's gonna say anything ?
mircea_popescu: mats this is how the usg lost ukraine, iksn't it.
mats: although this is consistent with specific brinksmanship events
BingoBoingo: Which is why Trump needs to listen to Rush Limbaugh like real Americans do on their drive home from work.
mats: there's footage suggesting massive .cn troop movements to the border
mircea_popescu: honestly i'd rather trust a gaggle of ghana street urchins than us state to achieve anything.
mats: i have been thinking usg destabilization of dprk is a great way to jam a fork in the party's eye
BingoBoingo: take the fucker's tv and put the old man on a strict diet of AM radio
BingoBoingo: The point that matters is that someone needs to make POTUS great again
mats: https://www.bellingcat.com/news/mena/2017/04/05/khan-sheikhoun-chemical-attack-evidence-far/ a collection of osint on the subject
mircea_popescu: this is rather likely true ; if it is by far the best strategy for the terrorist state involved is to publish nothing and yak loudly.
mircea_popescu: the syrian story is the rebels were stockpiling it and it broke out once bombed.
mats: but then why not publish this evidence?
mats: i suspect it was delivered with an artillery shell rather than a rocket dropped by su-22, american radar may be able to disprove this