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asciilifeform: not a big deal, read+write ~= total ProcessBlock time
mod6: <+asciilifeform> anyway looks like you don't have this << ahh, sadly, no.
asciilifeform: 2) db write wait time (vertical) -- block # (horiz.)
asciilifeform: 1) total ProcessBlock time (vertical) -- block # (horiz.)
asciilifeform: so the two curves would be:
asciilifeform: ( the avg is not very useful, it includes megatonne of 0/handful-tx blocks from early years)
asciilifeform: plot the write times plox ?
asciilifeform: anyway looks like you don't have this
mod6: that was in the odometer?
mod6: my checkblock stats are mean/median of all of those values
asciilifeform: that was in the last patch
asciilifeform: where's the db read wait ?
mod6: (btw, the full log is available via the blog), but here's a snippit of one block eaten
asciilifeform: y'know, when trb sits like idiot and waits for bdb to disk i/o.
asciilifeform: mod6: the read/write times
mod6: I don't see a "stall time".
mod6: lemme take a quick look
mircea_popescu: and yes, what alf says. the per block thing
a111: Logged on 2017-04-18 05:39 mod6: <+mircea_popescu> o look at that slim checkblock << thought it might be cool to do some perl, parse out the stats, do some calcs & provide.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-18#1645420 << might be good to link definitions of "checkblock" etc on the page. ☝︎
asciilifeform: mod6: where's the per-block db stall time ? or still perling it out from debug.log?
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> o look at that slim checkblock << thought it might be cool to do some perl, parse out the stats, do some calcs & provide. ☟︎
mod6: did never started on fire... so that was good.
mircea_popescu: o look at that slim checkblock
mod6: mircea_popescu, asciilifeform, ben_vulpes, et. al: Eatblock test results & blog post: http://www.mod6.net/eatblock-test/
pete_dushenski: new bbet policy #2 : don't communicate with users but do negotiate with them
pete_dushenski: new bbet policy #1 : communicate with terrorists but don't negotiate with them
pete_dushenski: custody remain - as usual - safe, and as our standard policy dictates, not a single satoshi was paid our to the attackers." (from comment on bitbet page)
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: 0 word re where it was for ~2wks << "BitBet Mod 17-04-17 at 14:49 Dear BitBet users, Our apologies for the extended downtime. We underwent a ddos attack, motivated by a rather base extortion attempt (the 4th or 5th this year, but this one was unusually large). We have taken steps with our ISP to buy additional ddos protection capacity and are back to normal operations. All funds under our ☟︎
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BingoBoingo: Ex's in the Butt Fun!
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2017/04/buttfunexs-fiat-banking-partners-move-towards-becoming-exs/ << Qntra - Buttfunex's Fiat Banking Partners Move Towards Becoming Ex's
mircea_popescu: i spent what, 0.3% or so of this year in airplane. had thinkpad with multiple batteries loaded up with films etc by diligent travel assistant / cocksucker. in the overhead tray it stayed.
asciilifeform: me -- ~none. but i also didn't use the stinkpad that year.
mircea_popescu: what % of your time last year did you spend in an airplane and what exactly would have happened had you taken a nap / chatted up random chicks / thought about your nails for the interval.
asciilifeform: still not a real comp, but you can't fit a real comp in airplane tray
mircea_popescu: getting rid of the whole "laptop" paradigm is great for both wrists and productivity anyways.
trinque: but no, that was the last purchase of that kind of item.
trinque: got suckered in by the display resolution, 2560 by something.
asciilifeform: ain't cheap, either. was there an up-side?
asciilifeform: trinque: is that one of those boxes with soldered-down ram ?
mircea_popescu: no idea why i didn't before, but anyway. doesn't seem to have gone down from it either, so all good.
trinque on 80char black and white display atm. obsd doesn't know what to do with this gpu
trinque: mircea_popescu: wot.deedbot.org is my wotviz thinger, needs an SVG capable browser and not much else
trinque: I put one of those new AMD chip boxes together today; no moar thinputers.
trinque: gives one fail on "address test" before it's gone for good.
trinque: x1 carbon's got bad ram, actually freezes its own firmware memory test.
mircea_popescu: pretty much been trying to ride the news since day 0. sorta like the divorcee in rhodes island pretending she can't sleep because she's heard all the new york chicks got insomnia.
asciilifeform was a little surprised to learn that it was yet alive
asciilifeform: ( https://archive.is/5L7Ov/image gets rid of the js idiocy )
mircea_popescu: mod6 killing it with the quality blog posts
mod6: save your lulz for the charts
mod6: yah. this thing is like single thread.
asciilifeform: ^ all but the last is mostly wasted on trb
asciilifeform: lessee the numberz!
mod6: I think I just reached the end of my eatblock test...
asciilifeform: the sad thing is, dh was mostly used historically to test prng. so the 'waste' was, i picture, not seen as problem.
mod6: i'd like to have the discussion with rgb himself and see what the intent was there.
ben_vulpes: the last one strikes me as terrible experimental design
asciilifeform: it'd be easy to patch around. but i wanted to begin with classical dh.
asciilifeform: mod6: i still have 0 idea why author did this.
mod6: wonder if the intent is to provide greater coverage of the pool
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: try it yourself
ben_vulpes: also the weakening tests
ben_vulpes: that last tidbit is interesting
asciilifeform: dh also does a very, imho, questionable thing, of throwing away most of the input (yes) on account of insisting on using new segment of the input for each test
asciilifeform: and, apparently, the same tests weaken/fail in proportion to rewinds, regardless of whose rng you used, or even prng.
mod6: i wonder if that was the one from osx.
mod6: <+asciilifeform> http://archive.li/SnwEH << recall these ? << illustration of the rewind thing. << ah, interesting. who ran that, anyone recall?
asciilifeform: http://archive.li/SnwEH << recall these ? << illustration of the rewind thing.
asciilifeform: now at the rate dh eats bytes, a fully rewind-free test of, e.g., FG would take...
asciilifeform: http://qubit.lncc.br/trng << this d00d must have been very frustrated. i wonder if he understood the above.
asciilifeform: prng, e.g., aes(aes(...(0))) , or urandom, etc. give uniform distrib. and quickly ideal montecarlo for 'pi', etc. but , interestingly, same sort of dieharder out as FG, in that the level of 'happy' is directly proportional to the size of the collected blob, or rather, inversely proportional to # of the idiot rewinds.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-17#1645236 ><< speaking of, there's a whole "ted talks costa rica" "culture". ☝︎
mod6: ok good to know.
a111: Logged on 2017-04-17 21:04 phf: i used to promote a bar in the same block (tom tom's, closed now), so i used to spend a lot of time in this area
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-17#1645221 << were you any good at that ? ☝︎☟︎
mod6: version listed at the site is 3.31.1, which is the same version I'm using.
mod6: copyright at this www.phy.duke.edu/~rgb/General/dieharder.php page is denoted as 2017, so he must still be ~somewhat~ active.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu wouldja try and get him in here ? pretty pleez?
mod6: I'm using the USB-TTL cable that I bought, separate from the one shipped with the fg. There's a picture of the connection up close in the blog post. It is plugged directly into the computer.
mircea_popescu: which is why i said should prolly talk to guy see what he says
mircea_popescu: i know. and i don't see why they would.
asciilifeform: if using hub -- be sure to use powered hub.
mod6: I'm going to collect one more 1Gb+ from this 1st FG, run the ent & dh again, and then move on to the next one. Results should be done in ~24hrs.
mod6: Here are my results from the second run from the 1st FG tested: http://www.mod6.net/fg/fg-test/fg1.ent_run2.txt http://www.mod6.net/fg/fg-test/fg1.dieharder_run2.txt
asciilifeform: in yet-other lulz, the tardano makers don't sleep, http://ubld.it/products/truerngpro << New! Improved! with two... soldered-down shields. and oscillating voltage booster right on the pcb.
asciilifeform: 'The Global Consciousness Project Meaningful Correlations in Random Data ...when a great event synchronizes the feelings of millions of people, our network of RNGs becomes subtly structured....'
asciilifeform: tbh, imho it is quite ridiculous to loop the input.
asciilifeform: incidentally the moar, the merrier, many of the tests still loop at 1G.
mod6: running ent & dh on the output file. this was produced from the same fg unit that the blog was covering.
asciilifeform: eatblock time plot ?
asciilifeform: mod6: remind me plz what this was
mod6: should be done soon. will publish the results complete with nmon charts.
mod6: update: 453K+ blocks, into blk0050... the last one I had.
asciilifeform idly wonders what % of the thing, by mass, is otc randos rating other otc randos in 2011 era
mircea_popescu: gotta integrate all these into a thing
ben_vulpes: nono, trinque
mircea_popescu: also the various presets on mike's thing were good, with the weighted averages he had.
asciilifeform: i thought ^this ~was~ the visualizer