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mircea_popescu: literally, time per line of code per block.
mircea_popescu: what i was looking for was, supposing the whole of trb looks like : http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/YOK7i/?raw=true then something like : http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/qGO07/?raw=true
mod6: It wouldn't take much more effort to add the AcceptBlock values into the trb_offline_eatblock.png if that's wanted.
mod6: is that what you're asking?
mod6: the red lines are the first number after "took", so in the case of the example above, ProcessBlock took 2901 milliseconds.
mod6: this is built from this line in the debug.log, for example: "ProcessBlock (res == 1) took : 2901ms; db write wait: 313ms; db read wait: 155ms "
mod6: if you're looking at this chart: http://www.mod6.net/eatblock-test/trb_offline_eatblock.png
mircea_popescu: mod6 maybe i'm thick, but where's the per-line timing per block ?
mod6: Thanks to diana_coman for the help with gnuplot!
mod6: I have updated all the statistics, charts, and commentary in place.
mod6: Ladies and Gentlemen of The Most Serene Republic: My Second Offline Eatblock Sync Test is complete (with DB Read Wait Stats): http://www.mod6.net/eatblock-test/
ben_vulpes: parts of it have an odd feel, as though i were reading altcoin propaganda from another dimension
asciilifeform: ( the digits of pi do not autocorrelate, as far as anybody ever publicly found, in any other way )
asciilifeform: possibly the pi example was a poor one -- no ~automated~ tester, will ever find it, unless specifically made to
asciilifeform: any rng test can be rewritten as a producer of a predictor. or the test is rubbish.
asciilifeform: ( that's provably undecidable )
asciilifeform: at least, all of the meaningful ones...
asciilifeform: on the contrary -- all of the classical tests can be cleanly rewritten in this form
mircea_popescu: not without theoretical merit ; but in practice imponderable.
mircea_popescu: the principle of the thing though. it is an exceptionally hard standard
asciilifeform: but note that it dun have to be 'nth digit' , can also be 'next digit', o(n) , works just as well.
mircea_popescu: notwithstanding it is trivial in that "olympiad problem" sense.
mircea_popescu: plouffe's algo took until 2010 to be spit out. by plouffe.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: so, to take example, if you found a rng that turns out to emit digits of pi -- the proof-of-weakness will be plouffe's algo.
mod6: <+asciilifeform> actually-- deadly boring stuff. and intentional. 0 surprises. 'schoolboy' algos for just about all arithm ops. << that's just it though. excitingly boring.
a111: Logged on 2017-04-26 01:54 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this is a pretty hard standard though.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-26#1647917 << imho it's the only sane standard. rng 'weakness' can only be expressed properly as a 'predictor'. anything else is 'suggestively named token' ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-04-26 01:56 mod6: not sure that this is it, but a decent read anyway: https://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~chaitin/sciamer.html
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-26#1647918 << was quite exactly this idea, but it also had the lisp outputs iirc ☝︎
asciilifeform: short and simple enough for even exceptionally impatient folx to read and grasp.
asciilifeform: aim is to cap the thing at its current ~1000 ln.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the only palpably slow knob is prime-finding
asciilifeform: ( and on encrypt, as well as decrypt end ! leaking plaintext isn't more forgivable on transmitter end than on receiver )
asciilifeform: but that's transparently bogus, rsa has 0 business ever running in anything but worst case spacetime
asciilifeform: for some peculiar reason, everybody else (afaik) who implemented a bignumtron, only did this (or claimed, at any rate) for modular exponentiation -- but not for its subcomponent ops
asciilifeform: ( in the arithm ops, that is )
asciilifeform: no normalization, either - adding 8kb of zero to another 8kb of zero takes same time as any other possible pair of 8kb bitstrings.
mod6: this is pretty similar to the semi-counterintuitive idea i had been thinking about -- or more probably, was remembering from a previous discussion in here about the same.
asciilifeform: so not only , e.g., comparison, but addition, subtraction, take same number of ops regardless of what bits are set
asciilifeform: thing is optimized for -- strictly -- constant (always-worst-case) time and space usage; and fits-in-head (in that order)
a111: Logged on 2017-04-26 02:18 mod6: I was thinking today about a ~tmsr~ crypto lib, and it starts (probably) thinking about bignum
mod6: I did run across one on shithub that was implemented with a linkedlist. this seems like exactly what we wouldn't want.
mod6: I was thinking today about a ~tmsr~ crypto lib, and it starts (probably) thinking about bignum ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-03-29 12:08 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-29#1633699 << it is a notbad library to study (no external deps!) -- but it DOES use heap.
mod6: I guess what I was looking for was this: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-29#1633709 ☝︎
jhvh1: shinohai: Arbitrary length integer in Ada - Stack Overflow: <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1309195/arbitrary-length-integer-in-ada>; The Big Number Page: <http://bignumber.chez.com/>; Ada –A Crash Course - VTC - Vermont Technical College: <http://web.vtc.edu/users/pcc09070/TutorialAda/AdaCrash.pdf>
mod6: not sure that this is it, but a decent read anyway: https://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~chaitin/sciamer.html ☟︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this is a pretty hard standard though. ☟︎
asciilifeform: poor ol' english folx, have not only toilet and sink in same rooms, but imperative same as infinitive verb...
asciilifeform quite enjoyed the ru sphere's name for dieharder, 'умри тяжело'
mod6: heheh. i'll look for the posting
asciilifeform: until somebody suggests a better name, i'ma call this hypothetical method 'die maximally hard'.
asciilifeform: ( if anyone recalls where this was -- plz post !! )
asciilifeform: but i haven't the original paper at hand, this is a 20y+ memory.
asciilifeform: described in almost exactly these terms.
asciilifeform: btw i now realize that this entire idea isn't asciilifeform's, but actually greg chaitin's.
asciilifeform: (without a copy of the tester, even.)
asciilifeform: that way you do not have to wonder wtf the particular test consisted of. and can immediately replicate.
asciilifeform: ideally this output (algo) would consist of a runnable lisp proggy.
asciilifeform: the scalarization of 'weakness' is an absurdity. gotta make this -- specific -- claim.
asciilifeform: this generalization also exposes what exactly the 'minimal sample' is, likewise.
asciilifeform: because that's, really, what alleged 'weakness' means -- that you can say 'can predict...'
asciilifeform: imho it ought to return an ~algo~ for attempting a better-than-chance prediction of nth bit, given n; ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: incidentally i had a thought re what an 'ideal dieharder' might look like.
mod6: my second run on the 2nd FG out of my bunch has completed. results here: http://www.mod6.net/fg/fg-test/fg2.ent_run2.txt http://www.mod6.net/fg/fg-test/fg2.dieharder_run2.txt
danielpbarron: apparently one of the firms developing that tech has a building at 666 5th Ave NYC
pete_dushenski: don't think it brought me much closer to hashem. just have to wait for musk's tesla'filin for my salvation!
pete_dushenski: as long as there's a little prayer scroll in all the tinfoil!
trinque: tinfoil t'filin ?
pete_dushenski: and that's how you end up with hebes wrapped in t'filin
jhvh1: trinque: [KJV] Revelation 13:16 :: And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
pete_dushenski: sounds like the future fo sho.
pete_dushenski: "With phone sign-in, we’re shifting the security burden from your memory to your device. Just add your account to the Android or iOS Microsoft Authenticator app, then enter your username as usual when signing in somewhere new. Instead of entering your password, you’ll get a notification on your phone. Unlock your phone, tap “Approve”, and you’re in."
pete_dushenski: https://archive.is/kb67L << "Here in the identity division at Microsoft, we don’t like passwords any more than you do! So we’ve been hard at work creating a modern way to sign in that doesn’t require upper and lowercase letters, numbers, a special character, and your favorite emoji."
asciilifeform: 'San Francisco and Santa Clara County, which had asked the judge for an injunction, “have a strong interest in avoiding unconstitutional federal enforcement and the significant budget uncertainty that has resulted from the Order’s broad and threatening language,” the judge wrote, referring to Mr. Trump’s January executive order on immigration.'
asciilifeform: in other magas, https://archive.is/SaZEV >> 'A federal judge in California on Tuesday temporarily blocked the Trump administration’s efforts to withhold funding from cities that limit their cooperation with federal immigration enforcement...'
pete_dushenski: mats: heh quite the kaboom
phf: actually lurkmore has the proper illustration >> http://lurkmore.so/images/b/b0/Doomres8by.gif
phf: like this random guy http://static.diary.ru/userdir/1/0/2/5/102541/31880545.jpg
a111: Logged on 2017-04-25 02:26 mircea_popescu: phf as a side point, do you know anyone totally into death methal with a bmi under 30 ?
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-25#1647755 << i think this is more of an american thing (and derivative cultures), because ru death metal fan stereotype is a lanky guy with long hair ☝︎
ben_vulpes: impressive splatter on that one
mircea_popescu: o check it out, you get 60% more worthless shit if you send 10 ethereum than if you send 40.
mircea_popescu: dorks learned ~0 since dotcom bubble burst did they.
shinohai: Perhaps if I send then an IOU for the presale tokens all will be good?
shinohai: http://www.sikoba.com/www/presale/index.html <<< You just can't make these lulz up
mats: bonus footage: dog takes a dump at the end
asciilifeform: because - somehow - each of 5,300 (and strictly this number) did it on own, personal lark.
asciilifeform: 'Wells Fargo said it had fired 5,300 employees found to have defrauded customers.' << gold
asciilifeform: it isn't as if wf were a company, in the customary sense -- it's a usg organ, like microshit. 'tbtf'
asciilifeform: the best part: 'Fargo CFO John Shrewsberry told 500 senior Wells Fargo execs in a conference call that the scandal would not affect third-quarter earnings "much." '
mircea_popescu: o no, don't tell me... the fiat empire consists principally of dead souls ?! which have bank accounts and facebook accounts and read the new yorker and vote pantsuit ?!
asciilifeform: http://bisqwit.iki.fi/story/howto/bitmath/ << for the cache bot.
asciilifeform: the 404 is pretty great tho
ben_vulpes: ah, trailing slash necessary
asciilifeform: and now for Something Completely Different >> http://bisqwit.iki.fi/story/howto/bitmath << one of those rare 1990s-style actually-useful www .
ben_vulpes: w also similar in shape to upside down double arches
ben_vulpes: definitely good for the lulzconomy
asciilifeform: http://archive.is/PFvo7 << in other lulz >> 'Multiple shareholders stood and yelled at the board of directors and Chief Executive Tim Sloan. The shareholders were angry about the bank's creation of as many as 2.1 million phony accounts in customers' names.'
mircea_popescu: is this good for fiatcoin ?