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mircea_popescu: tbh, i don't think doing it in #trilema is either unfeasible or a bad idea.
lobbes: Also gotta figure out where auctions would happen. I'd imagine #t wouldn't be keen on the auctions taking place in this channel. Would be a lot of added noise.
mircea_popescu: (amusingly, this node-sybil-pie entirely exists BECAUSE IT CAN exist. think in GT terms : at t1 it doesn't exist. at t2, player 1 figures out it could exist, whether it can or not, and takes defensive meansures. at t3, some bug in player1's implementation is exploited (consciously or accidentally) and now... it DOES exist.)
mircea_popescu: trinque one working model : all the nodes node 1 was connected to decided "it is spam", because they can do this now, so they didn't forward it but also didn't tell node 1. same did not hold for node 2. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: don't be doing that, not doing it is in the spec!
mircea_popescu: trinque you won't be able to fix trb into sanity without new classes.
mod6: trinque: i didn't say we /should/ add more classes.
mircea_popescu: mod6 in any case don't completely abandon the trb-v castle, you're like our last guy there i fear
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-13#1724903 << this is why i wouldn't recommend writing tests for it for any other reason than learning / checking. it's a prototype yet, only the growth spur should be checked as it were. ☝︎
mod6: anyway, i don't wanna be a distraction. am simply, hopefully, on a useful side-quest.
mod6: and Framedragger came along and did that handy thing and archived all that stuff. really, can't live without that bot.
a111: Logged on 2017-10-13 11:19 apeloyee: by the way, the bot which saved pastes on archive.is doesn't seem to do it anymore.
asciilifeform: the current item is problematic on (hypothetical, i don't have one for which gnat builds) 8-bit archs
asciilifeform: and incidentally don't assume that the current forms, are the ideal and shortest/clearest possible
mod6: the fz_mux wasn't too bad, etc.
asciilifeform: mod6: whichever type of test you're making, it certainly won't hurt.
mod6: probably won't even start until we're closer to a finalized version of ffa.
mod6: once we have some solid unit tests in place, i'll look at some functional tests as a higher-level way to ensure we don't regress as well. but that's a bit later yet.
mod6: i don't have a ton of coverage yet -- just mainly around the fz bitwise ops, fz_add, fz_mult, handfull of others.
a111: Logged on 2017-10-13 11:19 apeloyee: by the way, the bot which saved pastes on archive.is doesn't seem to do it anymore.
apeloyee: by the way, the bot which saved pastes on archive.is doesn't seem to do it anymore. ☟︎☟︎
apeloyee: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-12#1724608 << for some reason the subword shift is in-place, whereas the full-word shift isn't ☝︎
BingoBoingo: Well, AA battery as power supply means won't interfere with heat envelope too much
saot: bad but it doesn't affect me
saot: i don't know what he does, he wrecks his life
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo eh i really don't need all of these.
trinque: oh hey it's got auctions, doesn't it
mircea_popescu: trinque don't sweat it, she'll do it when i tell her to, what. tomorrow, monday, whatever. ☟︎☟︎
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> i don't get it, i can make a plain light colorized image of an ultraviolet source, but i can't make a sound pattern of some microwave ? << AHA, like "traffic safety" radar
mircea_popescu: pay a coupla dumb hos who don't even hooker for a living to sit among some plastic shits at a "conference", spend 10x that much ?
ccmtacks: I don't get it, I only type one space and it gives me two
ccmtacks: ah, sorry trinque, I didn't know that
mircea_popescu: ccmtacks yeah but trinque runs it and if he says it won't then i tend to believe him.
mircea_popescu: trinque it doesn't pay 3s ?
ccmtacks: mircea_popescu, during the withdraw process, if I don't receive any response from deedbot, when I give him the encrypted OTP, does it mean that I have to do all the process again ?
trinque: don't want people sending 3 btc when they meant pay invoice 3
trinque: that sends a defined amount to a person, hasn't to do with invoicing
trinque: I don't like overloading commands
trinque: I could have it burp the invoice number in logs if people don't care that it does
trinque: there's an append only thing that doesn't exist yet
mircea_popescu: i don't get it, i can make a plain light colorized image of an ultraviolet source, but i can't make a sound pattern of some microwave ?
ben_vulpes: so i'm fiddling with some source delivery pipeline, and i discover that some asshole has put executable code into his cl .asd files; which i suppose is fine in some circumstances, but i'm doing Terrible Things over here and the asd's aren't getting concatenated with everything else and so just to add another entry to my list of folks whose decisions have made my life harder i look this dude up and can ya
asciilifeform: they are almost certainly unnecessary on a pc, but can't put it past intel & friends to 'optimize' shl/shr, at the very least in the 'do nothing if operand is 0' sense.
asciilifeform: FZ_ShiftRight_Secret_SubW and FZ_ShiftLeft_Secret_SubW do exactly same thing as ye olde FZ_ShiftRight and FZ_ShiftLeft , but don't leak shift amt on machine w/out barrel shifter, at the cost of roughly 10x as much work
mircea_popescu: (mostly because they don't want to deal with its waste product)
mircea_popescu: don't skip my blocks on first error, i often recover.
mircea_popescu: you don't actually read my lines do you.
asciilifeform: ( you don't even strictly speaking need a u-case for it, can bolt 'ears' to the stock case )
mircea_popescu: i don't specifically, but this is exactly the point here.
asciilifeform: can't hurt to have in the l0gz.
mircea_popescu: desktop mobo isn't useful forracking anyway.
asciilifeform: chip supported, mobo didn't
asciilifeform: those ain't ecc
trinque: I dunno why you wouldn't, really.
shinohai: Can't hurt
shinohai: Trying to find new home for jhvh1 .... lost host, don't want to put on home box yet
mircea_popescu: shinohai oh, you didn't want a reddit btw ?
asciilifeform: i haven't been able to think of any practical reason to do this, so could not be moved. but anybody with copy of the db dump, can, if he feels like.
trinque: didn't bother checking all, but I don't so much suspect great firewall of MAGA as run of the mill ineptitude
asciilifeform: folx you don't know mircea_popescu's longfp ?!
mircea_popescu: why the fuck would he work for you, i don't get this.
a111: Logged on 2017-10-12 14:33 jurov: dear shinohai et al.: i think it's as good time as any to learn to explicitly date the signed stuff, please. so that i don't have to muck with signature innards to keep track.
a111: Logged on 2017-10-12 14:33 jurov: dear shinohai et al.: i think it's as good time as any to learn to explicitly date the signed stuff, please. so that i don't have to muck with signature innards to keep track.
mircea_popescu wouldn't put it past teh excel-powered-secret-agents to have fucked up the backups, for instance.
jurov: dear shinohai et al.: i think it's as good time as any to learn to explicitly date the signed stuff, please. so that i don't have to muck with signature innards to keep track. ☟︎☟︎
BingoBoingo: That's what they try to sell. They mostly end up selling tools (Which they sold to Stanley Black and Decker) and lawnmowers. Also assorted catalog novelty schlock other retailers won't touch
BingoBoingo can't believe it's only another 5 hours until the latest round of "Who wants to fleece a Gringo" emails pour in
BingoBoingo: shinohai: You don't understand. Two completely seperate organizations. The girl scouts are already threatening lawyers!
mircea_popescu: i'll rate you, which means you'll be able to self-voice so i don't have to keep patching it half hour at a time.
mircea_popescu: and don't lose it!
asciilifeform: ( somehow, not hosting arbitrary js/flasholade isn't an option for these, go figure )
BHopkins: Don't be too judgmental of journalist "interns". I create some of those for our marketing purposes :)
mircea_popescu: BHopkins nah. i personally couldn't care less about "bad" things. for one thing, i've yet to meet the entity intelligent to say something meaningfully bad about me.
a111: Logged on 2017-07-08 03:49 asciilifeform: i just counted gpg 1.4.10 : 156,436 loc -- and that ain't counting the autoconf liquishit, or the libs it pulls in
mircea_popescu: too bad you can't use bitcoin for anything. must be why it's crashing
asciilifeform: 'So don't be fooled by post count, age, whatever. Fine. What are you fooled by?' << lol
asciilifeform: can also sum how much they 'dun make' at nasdaq; and while we're at it, how much fish they don't have at the proverbial sov fish counter
mircea_popescu: should i have said " how much dough the etsy chicks don't make" ?
asciilifeform: if 'enemy is a telepath and can access anything', you don't have crypto, you have eating pistol or surrender
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i don't care, it makes no diff.
mircea_popescu: lobbes how the fuck is bringing watermelons supposed to be discriminatory ? he wasn't gonna let the white guys have any ?
shinohai: lobbes: They were prolly pissed because he didn't bring a bucket of KFC too
mircea_popescu: and in other (lengthy) lulz : i cursed new girl with the old mpoe-pr curse, if you haven't guessed by now. the tardstalk this time is "black hat world", dedicated to "seo" and shit.
asciilifeform: ground rule of crypto is that enemy has access to ciphertext and the occasional bit of plaintext ( guessed. ) if he has access to inside of your box we ain't doing cryptology, it is called perimeter defense
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i don't have the proof it is, but that's irrelevant. you don't have the proof IT ISNT.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you don't know it's ACTUALLY different ; the expression sounds different, but there's a clear modulo space / elliptic curve relation.
mircea_popescu: and this isn't a joke : the "distinction" between rsa and ecc, whereby "ecc is faster" or "has longer effective key" is bs. ECC is exactly RSA in polar coordinates, if either fails mathematically both do.
mircea_popescu: i can't fucking find one. you want me to use n
asciilifeform: they ain't hashed together, no
mircea_popescu: i don't get it. so instead of one item with the above three problems, i now have three, and they're hashed together. so ?
mircea_popescu: and srsly don't later tell me when im right here wth.
asciilifeform: phf: it was part of the fiction where 'no we didn't surrender to americans, your rape is a traditional ancient greek, dontchaknow, rape style, nuffin to do with usa'
phf: depending on the person either the context of "you're a banker, what do bitcoin investment" or else futurism "soon there won't be ИПОТЕКА everything will be in bitcions, have you heard?"
mircea_popescu: i guess they don't know what cyprus is huh.
asciilifeform: and naturally no koch speech is complete without a 'the web of trust, he feels, is inherently broken. It is only explicable to geeks, and not to all of them, it publishes a global social graph, because signatures on keys imply physical meetings on known dates, and it doesn't scale.'
shinohai: "Fuck guys, were on nsa watchlist, can't use amlbitcoin" "Oh noes, WHAT THE FUCK WE GONNA DO?!?!"
davout: yeah, i couldn't resist
ccmtacks: and it won't happen again
asciilifeform: i personally don't need silent remoras for anything.
asciilifeform: ccmtacks: if you don't speak in next few hrs, i'll unrate