asciilifeform: note that the entire shebang is includes

asciilifeform: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/attachments/20150701/pss_2f32fc9570f505a65c46b118c415cae70d57d757.png << probably the figure of interest to most folks here

asciilifeform: 'Results of First 'Deterministic Sync' Experiment, With Memory Consumption Plots.'

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes, mod6, mircea_popescu, et al: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-July/000107.html

asciilifeform: achtung, panzers!

asciilifeform: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/11709753/Teenage-girl-with-toilet-phobia-dies-from-heart-attack-after-going-eight-weeks-without-using-loo.html << from earlier link

asciilifeform: not sure what to blame other than ram fault (experiment was taking place on a portable with non-ecc ram) ☟︎

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes, mod6, mircea_popescu, et al: anomaly from last night ~wasn't~ replicated. eater successfully ate blocks through 217336 (shat the day before using 'dumpblock' from earlier sync with mircea_popescu's node)

asciilifeform: i'm off to bed. will wake up to the boojum, if it appears.

asciilifeform: 201187+

asciilifeform: not long now

asciilifeform: btw, eater is still eating at 200158+

asciilifeform: pretty much what i said earlier

asciilifeform: aha

asciilifeform: ff your cock and balls. That day you'll become a man. vii

asciilifeform: - It's a symbol, in the shitvi, explained his father, the King. You have to experience real loss to understand the importance of respecting the subterranean world and its rules. It's not easy to do. That's why when someone does it, he's considered truly an adult and counted with people. Until then his notions don't matter. I know what I say may seem absurd to you, but then again one day you'll be prepared, and willing to cut o

asciilifeform: - But do I actually have to cut off my cock and balls ?! Couldn't I just promise not to have kids and like, squirt outside ?

asciilifeform: And the Prince inquired, like all boys his age, upon finding out what The Ritual actually was :

asciilifeform: http://trilema.com/2014/romanian-bloggers-part-2 << mandatory

asciilifeform: ^ my personal favourite

asciilifeform: !s dulap

asciilifeform: trinque: ancient

asciilifeform: a few hacks of axe's worth of fuck

asciilifeform: evidently ~somebody~ gave a fuck

asciilifeform: often the egress point, between the underground conduit and the switch box - is naked entirely

asciilifeform: today they are in plastic pipes, and - unless belonging to cia/nsa in particular - marked with a bright orange public stake

asciilifeform: and switch boxes - guarded

asciilifeform: there once was a time when usg cables were armoured in concrete tubes

asciilifeform: and they didn't even need a fusion-powered death ray, it seems

asciilifeform: l0l

asciilifeform: qin shi huangdi's immortality pills.

asciilifeform: and so expect it to become an obsession

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu correctly observed that perpetuum mobile is pretty much the only thing that could save the shitempire

asciilifeform: 'our perpetuum mobile is far more perpetual than that of other projects'

asciilifeform: gotta love 'than other projects' part

asciilifeform wonders how many modern charlatans would carry on business if the consequence of failure to deliver were molten lead down their throat, as it often was for alchemists

asciilifeform: wake me up for the philosopher's stone startup

asciilifeform: it'll be right here.

asciilifeform: eater - still eating

asciilifeform: 197380+, counting

asciilifeform: thought they were signing up for a quiet life of sending viagra spam

asciilifeform: poor overworked philippinos

asciilifeform: or different one. ☟︎

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: so which obscure german academic is going to have 'known about this for a year' ? same fella as they trotted out for phuctor ?

asciilifeform: aha.

asciilifeform: then go, speculate.

asciilifeform: see also the sacramental http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=23-11-2014#932006 ☝︎

asciilifeform: if you want certainty, you will have to wait.

asciilifeform: midnightmagic: the details remain to be learned

asciilifeform: consult the src (linked earlier in this thread)

asciilifeform: iirc, it is [mainortestchainflag][length][blockdata] repeated again and again ☟︎

asciilifeform: phf: by far the simplest possible way is to simply walk the binary

asciilifeform: (then again, this ragnarok will still be there tomorrow..)

asciilifeform: at this rate, he's gonna miss ragnarok.

asciilifeform: where the hell is mircea_popescu

asciilifeform: alternatively wait for me, but i'm up to my ears in backlog of work

asciilifeform: alternatively, write own (format is pretty simple)

asciilifeform: can try that.

asciilifeform: there is a python thing floating around, iirc

asciilifeform: but it's a bit slow

asciilifeform: decimation: one way is what i'm doing

asciilifeform: ~recent~ syncs diverging is almost certainly a product of enemy fire

asciilifeform: and compare individual ones

asciilifeform: this is probably when i say that it will be necessary to walk the blocks.

asciilifeform: anything peculiar about that node ?

asciilifeform: mod6: where are the 3rd items in these triples from ?

asciilifeform: (on the 'eater' node)

asciilifeform: sha256(blk0001.dat) is equal to the expected value.

asciilifeform: (but is not expected for a while)

asciilifeform: anomaly has not recurred yet

asciilifeform: is presently past 189070

asciilifeform observes that the 'eater' has completed blk0001

asciilifeform: iirc

asciilifeform: they were moved from an earlier disk, where the thing was going from late 2010

asciilifeform: (for the same reason as mircea_popescu's)

asciilifeform: almost certainly

asciilifeform: (the latter with nightly parity checks!)

asciilifeform: and raid5

asciilifeform: with ecc ram, no less

asciilifeform: ^^^ from my box circa 2013 !

asciilifeform: c125ab7cbdf64b9d14c26adcc7638b2e7a62879cdd64a8897bbdb494360162569 blk0003.dat

asciilifeform: ebbeef1641ca8b921652577f4917ad2f7391cb5067b7857819ed4a5fb4a35091 blk0002.dat

asciilifeform: 8d8c80c9677d59856eb3ebb2e9d87ff2bc4cd416f02ae6d4d925e031fffb82e1 blk0001.dat

asciilifeform: aha

asciilifeform: (because if sync is not complete, then naturally last blk**** will differ)

asciilifeform: that is, the differing files are followed by another ?

asciilifeform: mod6: differs ~while being complete~ ?

asciilifeform: notice that there is no mechanism in bitcoind for ~erasing~ anything from the raw block files.

asciilifeform: but any subsequent sync against his node is expected to match the canonicals.

asciilifeform: if his blk** are ~original~ - as in, they were formed ~as the blocks happened~ - they can contain orphaned (in the traditional sense) blocks ☟︎

asciilifeform: now my current understanding is that mircea_popescu has an excuse:

asciilifeform: ^ not a single one of these lines up with mircea_popescu's

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-06-2015#1182019 << uhoh ☝︎

asciilifeform: ^ is the same on the ~original~ (that is, received on that night from mircea_popescu) copy

asciilifeform: (except possibly on mircea_popescu's box...)

asciilifeform: well, anomaly didn't happen in that one

asciilifeform: because ultimately it is the canonical blockchain.

asciilifeform: same reason anybody uses a db for anything..

asciilifeform: otherwise you'd have O(N)

asciilifeform: aha