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nubbins`: i'll buy it off ya ;D
The20YearIRCloud: mircea_popescu: I'm going to write up a letter/note and give a poster & instructions to each one of my tenants, then offer a discount if they use BTC to pay for their rent( even if it's a fraction of the rent). But that will only account for 15 of the 50 posters, so I was gonna run a few contests on our FB page (If that's ok with you?) for the remainder ☟︎
mike_c: kakobrekla: i felt like that conversation the other day started in the middle. what is your position exactly?
The20YearIRCloud: mircea_popescu: I got the posters today, I had a question about redemption of the prize or whatever - Do the claimants just get on here and post a link to a photo, are there any other requirements?
kakobrekla: <mike_c> this activity is hurting kakobrekla's theory that bitbet need moar user friendly < i dont like the combination of these letters
mike_c: hehe. "I don't have time" 'then use space' "I don't like space!"
mircea_popescu: fuck you guise, i'm going home.
mircea_popescu: BUT I R HAET
mircea_popescu: aaaand i misspoke again. it has to produce about 300 different results is what i mean.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform sadly i don't need it very precise, but it hastabe 0.3% or so.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: his successors were all "only mommy can make me dinner so i know it's not poisoned"
mircea_popescu: i misspoke., i don't care about that, it just has to be in a range
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves hm i suppose this perversion is true
mircea_popescu: i would guess the bitstamp ticker crossed the guy's whatever threshold
ben_vulpes: <ThickAsThieves> i'm like, you now i'll have to pay taxes on those too right? << dude stop letting the wimmins make important decisions like dietary and financial structuring
gribble: I'm On A Horse - The Song - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WMXeKzoGxg>; I'm on a Horse - Old Spice Commercial - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VX5au0LOJp8>; I'm On A Horse - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsPwQVnlDg0>
asciilifeform: ;;google i'm on a horse
ThickAsThieves: i type real good
mircea_popescu: i, on the other hand...
mircea_popescu: bounce yeah i'm an unbelief god. like, most gods draw their power from believers believing.
xmj: ben_vulpes: I've TOLD you I'd love to work for BTC before.
xmj: ben_vulpes: yes and since then i've had to deal with Skype, the IRS fuckers, and got around to set things up.
ben_vulpes: * xmj would love to work for Bitcoin, btw << wtf last time i offered to cut you checks in btc you were all "nah lets fuck around with retarded int'l payment processors"
ThickAsThieves: i guess that's why we already see huge premiums on OTC (real) coins
bounce: well I won't say no to a sack of that worthless money. a milliard or two should do.
ThickAsThieves: i'm not exactly clear why money laundering is even illegal
nubbins`: i don't know why people think big-time drug logistics and btc overlap in any significant way
mircea_popescu: i think the prime of "we're selling bitcoin to pay for stolen credit cards" is come and gone.
asciilifeform: xmj: if i knew, i'd become a sysadmin. ☟︎
nubbins`: i suppose this is a foreign concept to you non-canadians
xmj: but, yeah, i know what you mean.
nubbins`: i prefer to receive rent via interac e-transfer
xmj: asciilifeform: former apartment i paid rent with paper actually
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well i suppose i misread. yes, as a internal-regulations-abiding inmate, it doesn't exist for you.
nubbins`: i think localbtc does a lotta biz
ThickAsThieves: i dont really understand how US otc market exists
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: bitcoin had an otc market larger than the exchanges back in 2012 << this is where, at least from my jail's eye view, the buggers - won. as usaschwitz inmate, otc doesn't even exist for me. in order for it to exist - i'd have to become embroiled in handling suitcases of benjies in meatspace. precisely the kind of thing агентурная работа is optimized to roll up participants of. ☟︎
ThickAsThieves: i like this theory, what if Draper actually bid less than everyone, but for all 160k or so coins
los_pantalones: i think they did
los_pantalones: and i can confirm we were much better bid than SM
los_pantalones: ThickAsThieves i can confirm not everyone was filled
ThickAsThieves: i'm not convinced there's anything at play but a lack of new bitcoin buyers
mircea_popescu: what'd i miss ?
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski i do ?
asciilifeform: so, for the record, what i'll call 'buterin's waterfall' - picture a water-powered vacuum aspirator pump, of a kind used in school chemistry class.
mike_c: i sent the link to warren, we're tight.
ThickAsThieves: i hope buterin and friends dont think they can surpress price THAT long
asciilifeform: i'd argue that this situation is intrinsic to the very idea of having stable 'institutions' like 'official medicine'
mircea_popescu: i'm talking about things that are fundamental, not mere convention built atop and supported on nothing really.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform is what i thought too, 2011ish. but here's the thing : these people now do book deals,
ThickAsThieves: i can see it now "whatcha reading, babe?" "The Ugly Reality Of Open Relationships"
mircea_popescu: meanwhile "the press" avoids linking to people like the plague, as the quoted piece from maddox yest showed. and i suspect this has a lot to do with their collapse, it's not the internet, is that they misunderstood the importance of reference.
mircea_popescu: i suspect it's exactly the only reason they eked into a modicum of relevancy for the social discourse
mike_c: i can confirm that a 1 yr old is terrible random number generator. they focus on a small subset of keys and bang.
ThickAsThieves: i could probly just learn more about her mom and map onto her
mircea_popescu: well if i could condense it in 500 words i would have already.
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: actually these were, if i recall, german. 17th-18th c.
ThickAsThieves: i think it's something like 'social relevance' or justifying ones own existence
thestringpuller: not that I condone kidnapping
ThickAsThieves: she's the only reason i'm still here
ThickAsThieves: yeah but i have no idea where to look
ThickAsThieves: for two, i'm starting to feel like no aamount of money (in bitcoin) will be real to her
nubbins`: sell my btc and i'll cut you, etc
ThickAsThieves: but i suspect it goes even deeper
mircea_popescu: <ThickAsThieves> my wife is all 'maybe this bitcoin thing isnt such a good idea' << if i had to take a bet on the matter, it'd go like so : it has exactly zero to do with any rationalisation she comes up with and everything to do with how annoyingly you've changed since getting involved with these loser geeks.
nubbins`: alf, i was joking D:
thestringpuller: People who have owned a house for 20-30 years and it's escalated in value are not subject to capital gains. (I know this to be true because I know many people who have sold their houses for more than they bought them and have not gotten taxed for it. The only tax attached to the transaction is sales tax on the buyer).
thestringpuller: additionally as property if you own said property for X amount of time (i don't know the exact figure in this state), you get the capital gains waived.
asciilifeform: there is an ancient law involved. 'не пойман — не вор' - 'not caught -- not thief.' known in english lands, if i'm not mistaken, as 'the eleventh commandment.'
thestringpuller: yes but that's not included if say you pay me X BTC to mow your lawn all year and I don't convert BTC to fiat
thestringpuller: teward: yea if you own the property for X amount of time the capital gains taxes are waived. This is a loophole for homeowners, btc falls under the same statutes. But you still have to pay income tax on income from BTC. I.e. i get paid in BTC as part of some employment contract. The receipt of those coins needs to be claimed with the IRS and then you gotta pay whatever during income tax.
rithm: i like to make money disappear
teward: thestringpuller: isnt that on the sale of capital? i.e. capital gains at the time of sale.
ThickAsThieves: i'm like, you now i'll have to pay taxes on those too right?
thestringpuller: under my mattress and pretend i am broke colelge student still
thestringpuller: i'm just going to continue to hide it
ThickAsThieves: i should get*
ThickAsThieves: I attempted to explain that all income is taxed and most at that rate
ThickAsThieves: sounds right, from what i recall about how havelock wanted to do thinks
nubbins`: i guess for these purposes havelock would be the "investor"
nubbins`: i think it's essentially just looking for long keypresses, indicating something heavy is on the kb
kakobrekla: well i wonder which one of those is it
kakobrekla: i thought those were out of order.
peterl: or am I confused?
gernika: peterl It may be permanently broken. But I did find it useful, yes. Currently looking at fixes.
gernika: peterl I use BItmessage
ThickAsThieves: i dunno
ThickAsThieves: well exactly like i guess
kakobrekla: <punkman> on a lathe < i guess that might work for digital data
mircea_popescu: exactly what i wanna ask him. pm the guy.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform do you mind if i rewrite your article ?
mircea_popescu: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1446 << i'm only now realising what a fucking seminal and foundational piece this is.
ThickAsThieves: i installed bitmessage once, then i realized there was no one to talk to
mircea_popescu: fluffypony i was thinking, "prolly fluff, he uses all the weird things" but then i was like, give the guy a break, don't say anything
fluffypony: peterl: I do
ThickAsThieves: oh wait i get it now!
ThickAsThieves: kinda cool if you imagine the coin to be one of the dropped coins from the failures i guess
mircea_popescu: i just mean it's not the usual "here's me with a straight line tool" bs like http://object2212.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Cryptovest_front-1024x759.jpg
mircea_popescu: flood of fiat i dunno
mats_cd03: i don't get it.