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mircea_popescu: (oh btw -- it's MELANIE (for reasons,
the dark one, see disgrace also) not natalie. nfi what i was
thinking)
mircea_popescu: otherwise it'll be nothing but "hey guise, some bits flipped because cosmic-rays and
that's how
the deed got deeded" all over
the place.
mircea_popescu: whole world of crypto is based, fundamentally, on
the rejection of
this naivite.
a111: Logged on 2015-10-21 17:08 assbot: Saudi prince avoids felony charges in sex assault case near Beverly Hills - LA
Times ... (
http://bit.ly/1OSFdZ4 )
mircea_popescu: but otherwise, it's really fucking simple : standard bitcoin node either has a
transaction in its mempool or does not have it in its mempool. if it has it
then it can't keep it secret from you, which in standard bitcoin is anyone. if it does not have it
then it does not have it.
that's
the whole story of mempools.
mircea_popescu: not like said relativism CAN have a footing anyway, so
the whole difference is moot in any sense.
mircea_popescu: what he's saying reduces
to "the bitcoin nodes run non standard code which keeps
two mempools - one
to
tell you, a different one
to use for
their own, not
transparent reasons".
this is exactly what i was saying also, but restated in such a way
to give some appearance of footing
to
the usual
tardstalk "oh, guise, you can't know for sure" nonsense.
Framedragger: (on cursory re-glance, it's less clear, cached picture in my head was
too "strong". interested
to hear opinions anyway, unless
too much of a beaten dead horse smell)
mircea_popescu: not
that i have any doubt one examples may be forthcoming for
the indefinite future.
Framedragger: i do not agree with
this latter judgement, while understanding
that "not agreeing with facts" is an instance of "being natalie"
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: i will give one example. about a year ago,
there was a discussion with sturles about mempool and
the whole zero fee
tx clusterfuck. at some point later on, you said
that (can't find quote, paraphrasing) on scrutiny, sturles' account broke apart. whereas i read it as "discussion was ongoing,
then mp changed
topic".
mircea_popescu: and in general - nobody will care about you enough
to shoot you for you.
Framedragger: i actually vaguely remember. is
that also where guy shoots girl
towards
the end because she was being bitchy? :D
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-03#1651278 <<
there's an absolutely phenomenal scene in jackie brown (the
tarantino movie) in which nigga explains "you can't
trust natalie, but you can always
trust natalie
to be natalie." he entirely speaks of
the whole dreamer generation, white cocksucker of
the male or female persuasion indifferently. dodo bird goes "dodo", reliably.
☝︎ mircea_popescu: somehow even more credible in having been disavowed by its original author. people with constructed negative credibility, how about
that!
☟︎ Framedragger: (nice quoted bit,
too, i see
the relation, i don't agree
that bitbet can be modelled as "just opinions", but w/e)
mircea_popescu: (the difference between mp and pg being
that mp is not a dodo bird. pg meanwhile -- deleted
the item from his own site. how about
that,
to lose a company is one
thing, but
to lose
THE HAVING LOST IT ?!?!
the actual part of your own personal history ? fuck me sideways,
these idiots.)
☟︎ mircea_popescu: one of
the first large companies
to be sunk by "other side" nonsense.
Framedragger: well no,
they'd actually say
that
there is an objective worldview. it's just
that
the haecceity (ha) pointers
towards "this is objective" are inverse as it were
☟︎ mircea_popescu: that's, after all,
the principal
tool of neoteny. "all opinions are just opinions and bla bla". you ever read
the ars digita bit ?
a111: Logged on 2017-05-03 13:19 mircea_popescu: but
that something else is always going
to be
the same exact
thing --
the realisation
that
the world as dreamed is not
the world as is, and
the incapacity of
the child
to metabolize
this fact.
mircea_popescu: the whole rota debacle -- exactly
the same
thing, as well. "oh, but
that was something else". no, not really.
mircea_popescu: but
that something else is always going
to be
the same exact
thing --
the realisation
that
the world as dreamed is not
the world as is, and
the incapacity of
the child
to metabolize
this fact.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: Framedragger it's always going
to be "something else".
mircea_popescu: the point is
that
this nonsensical construct where "oh, we'll avoid having our balloon worldview pricked by not doing anything -- hey,
this guy is doing something, how come he can't give less of a shit about all
the pricks we fear ?!?!" is wholly psychogenic. i get
that
the man-child abomination really
truly fears
the imaginary pricks he perceives
to exist. but it can't be allowed
to stand,
this notion,
that his nonsense is s
Framedragger: yes, infantilism, and a general pattern, but it wasn't just "accounting" back
then, it was mp billing multiple spends as "cartel research", and other shareholder disagreeing with
this. but anyway, after actually reviewing logs, my interim conclusion is "forest is deep, and don't sign a zero asset contract framedragger"
mircea_popescu: to quote
the
true avatars of
this "our democracy" retardation, "we could build a cabin like
that!" "well... not us. but
two men could."
mircea_popescu: Framedragger it is infantilism,
through and
through. "the only people who can do
things are
the parents, and we're not parents.
the only
thing we
the children do is
talk shit about mom's pie."
mircea_popescu: and if mp organises a conference
there's going
to be a conference and if he does not
there's not going
to be one and if we need an isp how about mp makes it and so on and so forth up
the fucking wall.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: nevermind
that if mp does
the accounting
then
the accounting is done and if he does not IT IS NOT DONE!!! no matter fucking what! what was
the response
to mp showing up in 2012 and showing
the
tardstalk crowd how
to do
the accountin g ?
they didn't start doing accounting,
they STOPPED it altogether. no more reports now, were all
the rage back
then but now it's no longer "something new
to say", as discussed in
the logs.
shinohai is genuinely stunned as
to why anyone would believe *anything* Gavin has
to say on
the subject of cryptography after Hoaxtoshi.
mircea_popescu: and
they will continue
to, for
the indefinite future, hide behind "oh, i can't say fuckgoats and
THAT is why my brain doesn't work -- it's my principles!!1"
mircea_popescu: mp
then
told
them where
to stick it,
they're STILL struggling
to digest
the matter, a year later.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger bitbet ended up short ~same btc, idiot chorus went "well since mp happens
to be doing
the accounting for it, and he's rich anyway, he should make whole our delusions as how
the world works. because we have parenting issues from a bad childhood and also are so fucking speshul."
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: just curious, how are
there "parallels with BitBet's misadventures last year about
this
time"?
the "dead recokining" accounting standard?
shinohai: omfg
this"Random Sanity"
thing is
too rich.
mircea_popescu: he's going
to
tell you if your bits are random!!! because randomnesity is a property of
the actual bits.
this is sanity nao.
mircea_popescu: "Get an array of 64 bytes from whatever source of cryptographically-secure randomness you are using. Encode
them as hex, and make a REST query
to
the randomsanity service.
The service will return ‘true’ if it
those bytes look random and nobody else has submitted
the same stream of bytes; otherwise it will return ‘false’."
mircea_popescu: could be just some random env stupidity, which from experience can eat a dozen dev hours for entirely n ogood reason. "nobody'd have
thought of
that"
mod6: mircea_popescu: yah, will report back after i
try some diff envs. etc.
thx!
mircea_popescu: mod6
try on a vps or something standard ? just
to get a comparison point ?
mod6: i'll keep working on it, might be an env related
thing.
mod6: like, simple
things such as examples and such,
tons of barfing.
mod6: anyway, seems a common
theme with me and ada. starting
to wonder if my compiler version is fubar or someweird shit.
mod6: i can't honestly get it
to compile
though.
mod6: anyway, stan's ffa is exciting
to read
through.
mod6: but chalking it up
to I don't know what I'm doing quite yet.
mod6: im starting
to get into ada
things... but i have a lot of problems with `gnatmake`, not sure exactly why.
ben_vulpes: seems as
though
there is some "fun"
to be had with ada
mod6: i'm pretty excited about
tmsr~ /
trb/trbi
things upcoming.
mod6: ah, well, was my mom's birthday
today. so
tough. but other
than
that...
ben_vulpes: btw girl does stellar asparagus;
they're in season and big enough
they can both steam on
the inside and crisp up on
the outside.
ben_vulpes: well
the asparagus and chicken seems
to have smoothed everything out, so i guess i can't even really complain about present circumstances!
ben_vulpes: there i found something
to complain about
ben_vulpes: plants are growin, babies are babblin, babes are beautiful, my plate is full of
things
to do, and we're supposed
to get 2 solid days of over-eighty weather
Framedragger: it's
the usual case with self-referential mp-complete systems
Framedragger: by following
this conjunction and assuming continuity of identity, we
trivially deduce mp
to be over 200 years old
mircea_popescu: you'd have
to be mp, and
to have read at oxford before
trafalgar,
to know such
things.
mircea_popescu: besides, who even knows
the ancient hick-hock joke anymore ?
mircea_popescu: it's a very good catechism of
the
thing, really. honest
toil and honest cunning. very square jawed.
mircea_popescu: the mockery itself was not bad, notwithstanding
the sad situation of
the dorks somewhat in
the vein of you know,
that fat annoying kid with a hot older sister. "why should i wash, have you seen
the boobs on Jane ?!?!"
mircea_popescu: Framedragger a decade ago, some dorks got some money
together paid some english speakers
to mock romanians' efforts at
translating shakespeare, and everything else.
Framedragger: wait what is
this? :D also 'A Hoax of Hate: Henry Ford and "The International Jew"' ahaha
BingoBoingo: In other recent events: "On Sunday morning, a culvert collapsed underneath
the front parking lot of Dunkin’ Donuts and Subway on Rendleman Road in Carbondale, causing
the entire lot
to sink."
ben_vulpes: this'd have been a few
tens of
thousands of years ago but yes
BingoBoingo: Along with Shoal Creek, Beaucoup creek, and Big Muddy River(Not
to be confused with
the Mississippi river)
BingoBoingo: Wait, you have floods
too?
The Kaskaskia River is out of its banks and wrecking
the shit out of some corn fields
ben_vulpes: or sink into
the quagmire of flood washout it was built upon come
the first
tremor of any note
ben_vulpes: why bother, whole place is going
to collapse under its own weight and its dependent poor
BingoBoingo: Why not just blockade metformin and insulin going in
to portland?
BingoBoingo: "A bookstore owner, self-identified queer person and single mom with a disabled son, Eudaly campaigned heavily on better protections for renters and some form of rent control.
The 46-year-old gained momentum as months went on, striking a chord..." << With
the City's many other femayo lardbarges on
the wrong side of
the
tracks
BingoBoingo: "especially in light of what’s going on politically across
the nation under President
Trump." <<
Then why is
the boss hogplanet standing in front on
the
Trump
train?
They don't call it a "cattle catcher" without reason
BingoBoingo: "Long considered
the pillar of citizen input for city policy-making, neighborhood associations now seem
to
take a back seat
to groups based on racial and cultural identity, as well as
to issue-based groups." << Nice, Portland is inviting
the Klan back
to
the
table
Framedragger: not at all, i guess i'm just used
to cold and person-less banking (which i actually enjoy
tyvm), but yeah i see