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a111: Logged on 2017-05-09 12:42 asciilifeform: but it is still possible to observe that it -- preoccupied with plugging whatever escape holes -- is in fact of 'gulag' type
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-09#1653759 << no, no. the sad fact of the matter is that what people want is without exception stupid and harmful. not even one, both. a functional civilisation provides people with a good story as to why they're getting something other than what they want. whether what they actually get happens to also be a) what they actually need, as opposed to $random ; b) actually competitive with the vario ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-05-09 04:53 BingoBoingo: Lizards are vulnerable to accidental dope OD too
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-09#1653746 << lizards are for practical purposes ~immortal , but they do sometimes die of ennui. sometimes this takes the form of dope od. ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-09#1653745 << it looks like self circa 1890s. when, e.g., opium, cocaine, were sold in corner shop, and most folx in fact had ~better things to do~ than to take'em ☝︎
asciilifeform: whereas even in recent past, say 19th c britain, crown did not give half a fuck if you preferred opium to society. or whether you wanted to get on a boat and never be met with again, etc.
asciilifeform: but it is still possible to observe that it -- preoccupied with plugging whatever escape holes -- is in fact of 'gulag' type ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-05-09 05:06 mircea_popescu: in any case, a civilisation is not a sort of supermarket leaflet, to be judged by how well and how thoroughly it satisfies your perceived needs.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-09#1653756 << well noshit.jpg, it motors along whether the inmates like it or not ☝︎
mircea_popescu: in any case, a civilisation is not a sort of supermarket leaflet, to be judged by how well and how thoroughly it satisfies your perceived needs. ☟︎
BingoBoingo: <mod6> asciilifeform: related, http://www.fox9.com/news/252863748-story << TORTILLA!!!
mircea_popescu: but this promises to be yet another pandora box. obviously and of course.
mircea_popescu: but these days, even the fine motor control of hominid ain't worth jack. and so...
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform actually the premise for civilisation competing with dope od is finally here. prior to recently, the dorks were still needed for muscular power -- first, brute, then, finely controled by a cns, primitive as it was.
mod6: lol, "nuke this box 4 me!!1"
BingoBoingo: Anyways how would the CIA lizards have any money at all without their trafficking business
BingoBoingo: Lizards are vulnerable to accidental dope OD too ☟︎
asciilifeform: mustn't permit cheap , satisfying pharmasuicide to compete on level market with expensive, frustrating, slow konsoomer-goodz-suicide.
asciilifeform: anything, anything at all to keep idiots buying 100k$ plastic porsche.
a111: Logged on 2014-06-18 00:36 asciilifeform: interestingly, sometimes the pharma folks fail: they spent some years trying to cough up a dopamine reuptake inhibitor that doesn't reduce to a synthetic cocaine, and, afaik, gave up
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2014-06-18#722630 << see also thread. ☝︎
asciilifeform: 'sub-dissociative' nonsense, yes, for you an' me; opio-cocainiferous goodness by the gigatonne, until head explodes, if he wants, for lizardman.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: brought to you by the same 400 yr puritan blight as 'graham cracker' ( look it up, the original ~deliberately designed~ shitfood , for mortification-of-the-flesh )
jhvh1: shinohai: The operation succeeded.
shinohai: !~later tell BingoBoingo http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/Nt4yV/?raw=true
a111: Logged on 2017-05-08 23:23 deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/things-that-happened-to-sam-chapter-4-sam-and-pam-were-separated/ << Trilema - Things That Happened To Sam. Chapter 4 - Sam and Pam were separated
asciilifeform: hm, deedbot seems to have missed latest chapter ??
BingoBoingo: Alcoholism, Bitcoin, and the timeless infant republic saved BingoBoingo from possible Sam-ism
mircea_popescu: it threatens to run long, dozen plus episodes etc.
mircea_popescu: lol. bb is a fan of the sampam story ?
BingoBoingo: WoT coupled with handshakes is all that remains as opposed to the time where WoT was also coupled with BitBet
BingoBoingo: English has a poverty of conjuctions, trying to use an exclusive sort of "and"
asciilifeform: so then.
asciilifeform: and bbet users decided whether to put coin in it, exactly how ?
asciilifeform: what'd it even mean to have a 'serious betting venue outside of WoT and handshakes' ??
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> in other lulz from ye olde heathendom, https://archive.is/Cvsb7 << Well for quite some time now there's been no serious betting venue outside of WoT and handshakes.
shinohai decides to go the distance, channel inner Gregor Mendel, and await fruit flies.....
mircea_popescu: time them like an arrow!
asciilifeform: them'd be time-flies shinohai .
shinohai: Well I left out bananas for a week, turned brown, got gnats. Now what?
mod6: <+asciilifeform> gentlemen, get yer gnats in working order. will need them shortly. << cool!
shinohai: https://www.reddit.com/r/dogecoin/comments/69vycc/important_im_taking_dogetipbot_to_a_server_farm/ <<< The trilema prediction comes true.
mircea_popescu: in other news, why the fuck isn't there a rapper named cashew ?
asciilifeform: in other not-quite-noose, apparently it is impossible to a) portably b) open a file for UNMOLESTED (e.g. no 'magic' char interpretation) i/o c) detect EOF.
a111: Logged on 2015-04-07 00:10 mircea_popescu: just like having a car doesn't alow having gasoline. it's true that often people who have cars also independently have gasoline, but the two are fundamentally unrelated, and there is such a thing as the fool's breakdown, ie, car's outta gas on the side of hte road.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-08#1653635 << hire more "security", you totally need it and besides -- look how much it helped trump! or for that matter didius julianus. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-05-08 22:23 ben_vulpes: dang, urbit went straight to the browser
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-08#1653632 << needs to be SEEEEENNNNNN ☝︎
mircea_popescu: well, there's a difference between typical and common. tsetse in fact quite typical.
asciilifeform: not quite typical 'hipster startup'. in the sense that tsetse is not a typical fly.
mircea_popescu: this great dilemma must be integrated, thought the hipster doofus, and so urbit or whatever. start-up culture.
mircea_popescu: or else they gotta go you know, in the raft, like that chinless douche / president of nbc with a crush on elaine. which doesn't supply food.
mircea_popescu: see, because currently the george costanzas of the world are stuck : either they go work for nbc, which does pay ok but makes women in bars laugh in their face shrieking "imagine! he writes sit coms! and he tried to USE IT!11"
a111: Logged on 2017-05-08 21:43 ben_vulpes: what are those again? being the wholly-owned sillycon valley bitcoin/namespace table?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-08#1653615 << well, first and foremost, being at the same time a food conduit that works in conducting food, AND something cool to tell chicks at obscure http://trilema.com/2017/from-the-bounty-of-the-internets-mp-was-right/ parties. ☝︎
asciilifeform: ( hey, it's how chinese remainder theorem was, supposedly , invented. commander lined up soldiers in columns of 3, 5, 7... )
mircea_popescu: if what happened in those heads were modular arithmetic, they'd even be useful.
asciilifeform: just happens in what passes for his head. just like modular arithmetic 'happens' in the head of the folx who never learned to count above three.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform aha, i was thinking exactly this, wtf they managed to re-bolt central approach into it.
asciilifeform: hey, beelzebub burned the great-inca-star-topology into his bios in the womb
mircea_popescu: "In future, it would be great if I could just accept any old patch, from any urbit down to the merest comet, as long as it was sealed by ~zod. In general, I would find it comfortable, knowing that everything my urbit was running was a collection of patches, each of which had a signature, or a chain of them, originating in the urbit claiming authorship of that patch." << wtf.
mircea_popescu: but yes, he seems to misunderstand it.
mircea_popescu: well, who knows, mebbe learn some thang.
asciilifeform: they, evidently, read the l0gz.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform lol wait wut, urbit bolting v to the side ?
mircea_popescu: "Thank God for those strict gun control laws in Chicago, otherwise the place would look like Texas." << i lelled.
mircea_popescu: ie, the program is probably brand new etc.
mircea_popescu: i'd propose anyoen with a degree from the same place and an ounce of self respect worth would return it, but then again it's transparently a ploy by whatever rando nonuniversity's too-clever-by-half administrator.
mircea_popescu: it's what the spanish'd have done!
mircea_popescu: honestly, i was hoping for something more along the lines of, "trayvon martin, the idle hoodlum who tried to beat up the wrong guy and got it as a result has finally received a less idiotic name. he's going to be exhumed and reburied as travis martin later this week"
a111: Logged on 2014-02-07 18:06 asciilifeform: re: hallucinogen: http://img0.joyreactor.cc/pics/post/%D0%BF%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%BE%D1%87%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%86%D0%B0-quotes-786200.jpeg (translation: most often, the words 'you ought to try everything in life' refer to dope and porn acting, but much more rarely to quantum physics and chemistry'
a111: Logged on 2017-05-08 21:32 asciilifeform: in yet-other, lulzier-yet lulz, https://archive.is/wRzSJ >> 'Trayvon Martin, the Florida teenager whose shooting death by a neighbourhood watch volunteer in 2012 prompted a national debate over racial profiling and civil rights, will be awarded a posthumous university degree in aeronautical science that reflects the 17-year-old’s dream of becoming a pilot before he was killed.'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no, sex means copulation, the usual reproductive behaviour in sexuate species.
mircea_popescu: they gotta hold the she-waterbugs in front of a frog to get them to cooperate, yo.
mircea_popescu: "i have nfi what receptive member of a sexuate species would want to "experience sex" rather than run as fast as legs would carry in opposite direction."
a111: Logged on 2017-05-08 21:25 asciilifeform: i for one have nfi why anybody at this point would want to 'experience american', rather than run as fast as his legs would carry him, in opposite direction.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-08#1653603 << you're starting to get in touch with your feminine side! welcome to the ancientest experience of alterity still in common use today! how do you find it ? ☝︎
mircea_popescu: and take-out is this very specific thing. subway bears the advertisements thjat tell the story, "rated largest quantity of muza per porcion". muza dude. petrocheese found a new life down there.
mircea_popescu: you should have seen the cheap "pizza" places in buenos aires. ~nobody cooks there because they're idiots, they survive on take-out and barbecue a few times a year.
mircea_popescu: o the "scientific methods". by the cubic mile.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-08#1653599 << happened all through south america. it's not "considered food" i nthe sense that "it's expensive", and they have some vague intuition as to the whole "in parismadrid they go to mcdo to experience american -- and SO DO WE111" ; however they are poor and cheap food is cheap food and they have local shitholes that "invented foccacia" sell them "pizza" or whatever, produced according t ☝︎
mircea_popescu: there's this automatic "judge human mass by the mass" mental process, visible here, visible when new guy was going "oh, capitalism will end because most people are spurious", as fucking if.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-08#1653594 << the problem with this theory is that culture is reposited in the elite in all cases. the arab world at the time it was saving the classics from the idiot hordes of europchristians ALSO mostly made of arablite by mass. if i pile up a bunch of coal over your heirloom diamonds can i thereby convince you to throw out "all this pointless carbon" ? ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-05-08 21:09 phf`: i think that traditionally would be called pogrom, rather than genocide. problem is that unlike jews, coptics, parsi, etc. american blacks don't have a culture to fallback to, and their persecution narrative is artificially constructed, so they just fall back. there's not going to be a tzadik in projects, unmovable, because torah told him to suffer
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-08#1653590 << quite. their situation is complicated by the fact that pre-oral "culture". you don't build much of an identitarian resistance along 12 yo values, a love for colorful skirts and dancing. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: but anyway, physical extermination is rather likely on the way also, anyway.
mircea_popescu: it is literal genocide, however that may fit or not fit unexamined notions of mass slaughter = genocide. the fact that "african americans" are a sad desert where ella and louis used to walk is good enough.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-08 20:59 phf`: i thin genocide in this case is not the literal lynching, but rather the systematic removal of agency under the guise of help and support, aka "useful idiots"
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-08#1653582 "any of the following acts committed with the intent to destroy a national, ethnical, racial or religious group : causing serious mental harm to members ; deliberately influencing the group conditions of life, calculated to bring about the group's physical destruction ; forcibly transferring children from the group to another group". standard un definition. entirely fits. ☝︎
deedbot: http://www.contravex.com/2017/05/08/the-noob-investors-temptation/ << » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski - The noob investor’s temptation.
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/things-that-happened-to-sam-chapter-4-sam-and-pam-were-separated/ << Trilema - Things That Happened To Sam. Chapter 4 - Sam and Pam were separated ☟︎
ben_vulpes: dang, urbit went straight to the browser ☟︎
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2017/05/rogue-doj-continues-obama-era-persecution-of-farmer-for-crime-of-tillage/ << Qntra - Rogue DOJ Continues Obama Era Persecution Of Farmer For Crime Of Tillage
asciilifeform: massive lulzmine, complete with -- yes,i shit thee not -- 'rust'
asciilifeform: 'If you're a "US person" and win a medal, bear in mind that we have to 1099 you for the assumed value of these goods (at the last crowdsale price, ie, $205 per star).' << ahahahahaha
asciilifeform: 'Galen Wolfe-Pauly is Tlon's CEO and Urbit's interaction designer. Galen went to architecture school. He talks like it'
asciilifeform: 'With the infrastructure converging, we can finally think seriously about the user experience of Urbit. What we're imagining is a small-scale social network and command-line API aggregator. It's just screenshots right now, but we're confident that we can build it and make it work. System software is boring (at least when done right). So let's start with the user experience.'
asciilifeform: ( from the man himself -- https://urbit.org/blog/2017.1-update/ . guess what, actual testable promise... )
asciilifeform: 'And cc-release is our first release really designed so that neither your ship, nor the whole network, can actually sink. The Urbit network had zero unplanned, and one planned, breach (network flag day) in 2H 2016. The last planned breach, the cc-release update, is planned for 1H 2017.'
ben_vulpes: schmaltzman can't even get the name right