asciilifeform: 'bondo, sanded to perfection' (mr mold)

asciilifeform: why engineer anything, when a bottomless supply of monkeys with 'duct tape' can be had.

asciilifeform: if anything, the turdalicious computer systems we have today are a consequence of cheap labour.

asciilifeform: ^

asciilifeform: this is one of the ways i differ from mircea_popescu

asciilifeform: would almost rather cook own dinner, and not have to deal with derps in any capacity.

asciilifeform: to cook my dinner, i suppose

asciilifeform: what do i need the derps for ?

asciilifeform: nah just self

asciilifeform: by today's lights.

asciilifeform: a toolchain that works ~without even a part per billion of microshit~ is pure plutonium, plain and simple

asciilifeform: nothing that existed and worked in '86 could really pass as shitware by today's standards.

asciilifeform: could easily be the only part of the corp that's worth something on the open market

asciilifeform: he (unsurprisingly) refused

asciilifeform: i specifically asked dks for those

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: 'getpeerinfo' isn't so hard. consider contributing a patch ?

asciilifeform: if it's no secret

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i'm still burning to learn why you're maintaining 0.7

asciilifeform: (for completeness, i will note that i will not maintain code mit undergrads wrote in '89. or '99. or '09. or at all.)

asciilifeform: building new things on it? even if usg were not getting in the way? not so appealing imho

asciilifeform: it is educational - yes.

asciilifeform: in all caps, no less.

asciilifeform: i've said it before, and will say again - smbx is a dead end. i will not maintain crapcode that mit undergrads wrote in 1979.

asciilifeform: quite possibly others - do

asciilifeform: decade+ too late

asciilifeform: (firms that actually go under, will often leave intact 'fossils' of themselves)

asciilifeform: apparently not.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: hmmpppfffmf!

asciilifeform: a local scrap dealer i will not presently name, sells retired usg contractors' boxes, often with whole shebang still in.

asciilifeform: trinque: at least do it the honour of preserving the stray bits on the hdds

asciilifeform: trinque: l0l

asciilifeform: decimation: there's no shortage of this kind of thing, as i understand

asciilifeform: aha

asciilifeform: see hearn

asciilifeform: 'red/white-listing'

asciilifeform: nah

asciilifeform: was mainly a gedankenexperiment, of somehow attaching wot ratings to coin in a permanent way.

asciilifeform: i certainly have no interest in it now.

asciilifeform: other than the moles

asciilifeform: ag3nt_zer0: it wasn't especially viable then. and after adoption as official usg policy in a mildly perverted form, i can't think of who might voluntarily work with such a thing today

asciilifeform: speaking broadly, of all of'em.

asciilifeform: one, or none, of those keys - may turn up.

asciilifeform: decimation: thing is, nothing can ever be proven 'lost forever'

asciilifeform: ag3nt_zer0: the paper referenced in the article, however, has nothing to do with me

asciilifeform: one might suppose that its existence is 'priced into the market' somehow.

asciilifeform: this bomb is there, whether anyone wants to talk about it or not, and may - or may not - explode one day

asciilifeform: ag3nt_zer0: the 'atomic bomb' is - now, as when i wrote the piece- -- the mega-holdings under a sole key, which never move.

asciilifeform: ag3nt_zer0: hard to argue that ~coins that never move~ are 'e-wallets behind one address'

asciilifeform: decimation: this is doubly lulzy because amex is the 'pay to play' cc issuer

asciilifeform: why this was - i can't recall. might like to ask him.

asciilifeform: ag3nt_zer0: i don't recall mircea_popescu ever devoting a whole article to specifically that one. his position, iirc, is 'satoshi lost the keys' ☟︎

asciilifeform: i can't think of a reason to suspect that this was ever public, but doesn't hurt to look.

asciilifeform: try yandex.

asciilifeform: but if exists, probably .ru

asciilifeform: mats: not afaik

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the operative distinction is 'no chargebacks', i think

asciilifeform: iirc they also take old-fashioned money.

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: aha

asciilifeform: leaving hell knows what, if anything

asciilifeform: mats: the clerk informed me (when collecting my hundy) that their amex thing will vanish next year.

asciilifeform: mats: aha. nope

asciilifeform: also no credit cards, but 'amex'

asciilifeform: no photo card - no enter.

asciilifeform: mats: the one i went to had a bouncer.

asciilifeform: rather than for the 2 percent off chumpatronics

asciilifeform: mats: i kinda wonder how many subscribers are paying not to see the lumpens

asciilifeform: but point taken. there is actually a mega-lulzy ru film about a captive ru derp used as 'computermaster' by chechens

asciilifeform: hungarian cannonmaster, siege, -- turks

asciilifeform: turks

asciilifeform: but these have somewhat different flavours in different places.

asciilifeform: aha

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu has it! lumpens.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it was largely empty, iirc !

asciilifeform: and the accoutrements that go with them (blatantly recycled food, tabloids, lottery crapolade, etc)

asciilifeform: ag3nt_zer0: the 'offensively poor' as described in mircea_popescu's articles.

asciilifeform: ag3nt_zer0: hard to describe unless you live here.

asciilifeform: 'costco', for u.s. folks. sorta like a meatspace 'amazon prime'

asciilifeform: ag3nt_zer0: splendid, went to a kind of groceries shop where pr0l3z are not permitted (costs a hundy/yr to enter)

asciilifeform: http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-26365085 << related, re: provocateurs

asciilifeform: ag3nt_zer0: the (present-day) west's academitardia is trolling. ignore the lot of'em.

asciilifeform: http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-33414358 << historical lulz

asciilifeform: above works better

asciilifeform: as it runs.

asciilifeform: tail -f ~/.bitcoin/debug.log > somewhere.txt

asciilifeform: as it tries to catch up

asciilifeform: danielpbarron: i specifically want to see what ends up in the log

asciilifeform: every single movement of the bank is reported.

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-07-2015#1201767 << if you have a usd-denominated bank account, it probably does not matter through which channels you turn btc into usd ☝︎

asciilifeform: aha

asciilifeform: danielpbarron: try it now ?

asciilifeform: the one that's just about entirely dead, as far as my naked eye can see ?

asciilifeform: what otc.

asciilifeform: i mean, yes, bitpay is a usg op

asciilifeform: dealer in dark alley ?

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-07-2015#1201615 << i'd like to know what he oughta use. to turn those coins into food, rent, mains power. ☝︎

asciilifeform: ru newz media are kinda lulzy in re: 'isis': invariably prefix with 'islamic army, the organization banned in our country, has...'

asciilifeform: while supplies last (tm)

asciilifeform: mats: presently - for phree!

asciilifeform: on their own.

asciilifeform: wake me up when the untermenschen can produce so much as one brass shell.