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asciilifeform: approx same as for decent pc.
asciilifeform never grasped why nato picked up luger as Official standard rather than colt's
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: .45 ACP is used here as a sporting round.
asciilifeform: as asciilifeform sees it, almost definitionally 'civilization' as in written , organized culture, is attempt to stall the drift.
asciilifeform: in mouth of redditus, possibly aint even such a thing as 'stable nucleus'
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: in mouth of 'scholar' just about anyffin can be 'stable', as in your quality italians. even oddball conlangs. recall the tears of the folx who made up 1945 hebrew when their spawn started speaking it tho.
mp_en_viaje: just as here : i will bring forth "elided" from the pits of "wtf, that's not even english!!!" because the phrase needs and demands it.
mp_en_viaje: though the discussion as carries elides the important point : excellent speaking helenists existed throughout the history.
mp_en_viaje: talking of the matter "in general", as of loss in principle, "he lost some shit off the sole of the boot" not at all the same as loss of the very boot. "but mp, where's the shit end and the boot begin ???" "shut it."
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-29#1938903 << not all loss is disaster, of course not. but the same argument as contemplated in http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-29#1938852 is seen in "o look at linux, lost init, now systemd".
mp_en_viaje: of course, this can't happen if you have writing, that'll preserve the two as distinct rather than creatively merge them to save on memory space
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-29#1938894 << the way to gain such is the same way as gaining a lot of new children. if the russians stayed in berlin -- but for reals, not just one quickie rape passing throiugh, then modern eastern german'd conceivably have been as sluttily hybridized as phoenician-dri
mp_en_viaje: latin kept it, as f.
asciilifeform: ro's vocative, if modern text is anyffin to go by, is 'falling off' just as ru's fell off
asciilifeform: this is btw a long-standing q in asciilifeform's head -- wai is it that lang knobs only ever seem to ~fall off~ in archaeologically-visible period. almost as if they were only formed in 'supernovae' of some sort, and then afterwards only decay
mp_en_viaje: occasional gems in the celentano vein (played straight, too!), like "The past year has been a year of failures for me. I failed to persuade any of my old friends about any of my strongly held beliefs concerning morality, politics, and economics. Not only did I fail to persuade them, I failed to maintain them as friends." ; otherwise apparently likes cha
mp_en_viaje: and the annoying part is that i can't apparently find now where i discussed in detail the relationship between "noir" as the form of cinematic expression and the sadness of abandoned counterfit-urban male youth (not REALLY urban because too new, like in new york).
mp_en_viaje: what they do, "complex" and "inexplicable" as they might like to pretend it, nevertheless can be very well predicted on a decerebrated read of the medieval catholics. basically calvin was the original hollywood, writting really stupid yet simple stories for a certain kind of [http://trilema.com/2019/fracture/#footnote_1_
mp_en_viaje: if the world came to its senses, if i engaged tards on their own terms, if parents lived their lives such that they're comprehensible to children, if china correctly saw the incredible importance of ustarded delusions... then maybe they could write about it. but as it is ?!
mp_en_viaje: so buck the tard built himself up treasures in heaven as indicated by his self-disavowing pedestrian restatement of catolicism as some poor scottish farmers could best manage to restate latin cancer.
BingoBoingo: Well, I plan to use this as the go to link in the future when US Pantsuits get busted while poor. Like this guy http://qntra.net/2019/09/kkkalifornia-pantsuitist-ed-buck-arrested-after-victim-escapes-lair/
asciilifeform: given as indices are per-chan
asciilifeform: 'tape' knob i realized is unusable shortly after cut patch, it needs to be rewritten so as to give 'last N' , rather than using start/end index from the earlier raw-log knob
spyked: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-27#1938438 <-- re. fonts, also see http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-13#1935895 ; long story short, for all the "open font" claims, there's no (text!) sources for those, so I just included them base64'd, to reflect the blog entirely as it is now. can safely ignore them/remove them from css and blog'll still work.
lobbes: as soon as vpatch is out, I will deploy on my own logger as well
BingoBoingo: The entire 1960 to 1990 span added ~0 to Montevideo's skyline as seen from roofs in the city
BingoBoingo: I have a strong suspicion if the investigation move to poking around the interior of listed structures the project could have turned into strictly evaluating for the lot footprints as the tower builders do
BingoBoingo: In my immediate surrounding they are primarily valued as potential footprints for future residential towers so long as that activity continues.
BingoBoingo: One nearby property I'd been watching since arrival finally sold after a flurry of listings once the price hit ~160,000USD. When I arrived it was listed around 200k. It had my attention for being a two bedroom house on an excellent corner with attached small commercial premises suitable for shingle hanging. Even after selling and becoming inhabited is still painted as a japanese restaurant.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-26 19:02:08 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: As of 2013 through a bilateral treaty the shelter part of the arrangement went out. From where I'm sitting it is hard to tell which way the Argentine winds will push
snsabot: Logged on 2016-07-11 11:31:03 asciilifeform: in ideal picture, 'nobody would dare', as curtis lemay answered when told to put out his cigar lest he set off the fuel depot
asciilifeform: 'i'ma quit my job an' work as a wolf instead, will grow teeth as i practice' 'write back, say how it goes'
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: 'imagined choice' can drive the imaginer into walls, but is unclear to me that the walls move, or even get dirty as result
asciilifeform: but imho still interesting, as neutrino was interesting before anyone knew how to catch 1
asciilifeform: 'main switch' not , afaik, fully crystallized yet as concept, then.
mp_en_viaje: but it is my read, stunted as it may be.
asciilifeform: to same thing as chingis han 'to what', 'see their women driven before me, hear the lamentations...'
mp_en_viaje: see ? that's where it classifies in my head. "to do as before" "dude... they're not doing '''as before''' not cuz they don't wanna, the port is sanded"
asciilifeform: for 'lively' son of peasant, as i understand 2 'radiodecay' paths, 1 to brigand, 1 to 'kulak' (of whom, seems , was also 'stable %' historically)
asciilifeform: for completeness, 'what did they then do' wasn't always 'eh same thing as grandfather, try to pull turnips from mud', but sometimes instead brigandage
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: similarly to alabama, i.e. not far. cuz it wasn't as if they escaped on motorcycles , ha
mp_en_viaje: "on the manor over the hill" "wow. and what were they doing there ?" "the same thing as here" "holy shit shocking"
mp_en_viaje: that ~another lord~ was not alloed to take thenm ~as plebs~.
mp_en_viaje: killed like 2/3 of the workforce ; as a result the fucktarded peons started agitating about how tyhey should get to choose where to work, get more wages etc
mp_en_viaje: the ~only practical function of the "taxi" apps is they're disavowed dating apps for the liberated dumb cunts posing as careerwomen
mp_en_viaje: it's dead, the whole "oh, cab's great, talk to cabbie get all the infos, solve all the problems, what you want in your life is like two dozen medallioned cars and the people who work them" is as much an artefact of aforetimes as "man who can cut veal"
mp_en_viaje: the sort of people you can hire to do the work are to ofuckign moronic to qualify as cows, no farm would hire them to be the livestock
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-26#1938387 << HUGe fucking problem. cabs have pretty much died as a functional human activity.
snsabot: Logged on 2017-12-19 18:23:09 trinque: "eudev" exists as an alternative to the systemd-udev. dunno what else the heathens stapled to systemd meanwhile
diana_coman: asciilifeform: iirc it was as an add on, some additional 15-25 eur/month depending on size of ssd
diana_coman: asciilifeform: I just fired up an email to them, as the article promisses
spyked: initial investigation shows that that indeed shouldn't be too painful, probably along the lines of wp_insert_post for each post. will still take some manual labour to verify that posts display well, but that's not burning, so I can do it as I go along with other work.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-26 13:19:48 diana_coman: mircea_popescu: once the new voice model comes in, is the L1 redefined accordingly too? iirc there are some priviledges such as "can use feedbot & deedbot only if in L1", right? spyked or trinque might correct me here.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: As of 2013 through a bilateral treaty the shelter part of the arrangement went out. From where I'm sitting it is hard to tell which way the Argentine winds will push
BingoBoingo: The advertised asking prices have been inching down since I arrived. I suspect the former use of property in Uruguay as a shelter from Argentine taxes kept real estate prices artificially high.
diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-26#1938378 - right; not "redefined" as much as updated implementation.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile it looks like ima have to review the trackback model also, as it turns out the new select style can spam trackbacks ( http://trilema.com/2019/the-freenode-issue/#comment-131559 and on)
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: once the new voice model comes in, is the L1 redefined accordingly too? iirc there are some priviledges such as "can use feedbot & deedbot only if in L1", right? spyked or trinque might correct me here.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-20 12:05:15 diana_coman: hanbot: you have broken trilema links on your blog as they still use polimedia.us eg those in http://thewhet.net/2012/11/shall-be-delivered/
lobbes: buut, I realise now this was kinda dumb. All the data (both "meta" and otherwise) is already inserted into the mysql db ffs. (i.e. if python crashes, I just... query mysql for last article updated and can get the post ID and last updated date, as well as read the contents field into memory). I will nix the flatfile-ism in short order
asciilifeform: just as , i suspect, there were a coupla sane, honest folx even on sslism committee...
mircea_popescu: as useless as dogvomit
asciilifeform: seems as if this oughta be doable on back end via combination of mircea_popescu's 1para and tableistic multipara
asciilifeform: well that's be quite useless. what i want is ~arbitrary~ text, as the occasion demands, whether 1 word in 1 para somewhere, or 6 para with start inside 1st and end in middle of last etc
asciilifeform: if it eats same url commands as other selectors , but able to light up arbitrary text, why would break expectations ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: as i understand, mircea_popescu's current selector worx a++ to select text in 1 para where no line breaks, and does not put in any spurious. but if you want to select multiple para, wai not put the table turd where there are already line breaks ? oughta be visually indistinguishable , neh ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, no, there's no way to do it with any number of tags. the problem is exactly as described : spans that can span any subset of the characters insert a spurious line feed ; spans that do not insert spurious line feed can not span any subset of the characters but only some.
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-26#1938308 << this isn't nearly as universal as all that. going by my own practice, sometimes i paraphrase, sometimes i footnote... but the whole discussion's more a case of "when bird flies, wings move, why not airplane". cuz not everything's a bird, what.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-26 08:29:31 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-25#1938084 << imo this sounds like a good idea in theory, but is not a good idea in practice. the reason for the difference is that the links as we use them now are ~fixed length~ AND ~fixed format~, something the quotes can never be. they are BETTEr like this than like that because the fix-* is the more important attirbute in thsi context.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-26#1938241 << suggestion here wasn't that speakers literally paste the quotes , as in heathen days, but that the ~current~ 'paste log link and see bot echo' get transformed ~by www viewer~ into the pictured form.
mircea_popescu: and, my reasoning goes, since im doing this ANYWAY, might as well have a public, published version.
mircea_popescu: or to put it another way : a logger confronts the dilemma if whether to sync with history or with other loggers. i don't believe there's need for a rule, it can stand as such.
mircea_popescu: there's two lobes to qualify for voice in a castle : EITHER 1.(rating above x by the castle owner) OR 2.(sum rating over y by his lordship as he defines it.)
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-26 00:30:46 asciilifeform: can be anyffin, even line count. so long as it can be mechanically derived from the actual lines, rather than clocks.
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-25#1938084 << imo this sounds like a good idea in theory, but is not a good idea in practice. the reason for the difference is that the links as we use them now are ~fixed length~ AND ~fixed format~, something the quotes can never be. they are BETTEr like this than like that because the fix-* is the more important attirbute in thsi context.
mircea_popescu: in fact, the reason i take the time to explain how various shits work, unpopular as they may be, is because i put the time in to actually understand how they do in fact work ; and i did that not because i was bored, or because i was desperate to find something to pour some of this time into, i have like a well of time at home and it's overflowing so you gotta put some in all availavble receptacles or else it floods the hou
mircea_popescu: yet strangely mp doesn't mind nearly as much as the bottom centile of the "red pill" crowd. how the fuck ?! is it because he's a jew that he doesn't suspect jews are in charge ? what the fuck's going on here ?!
mircea_popescu: and it can not even be explained JUST HOW!!! creative that thing that's creative actually is. let's look at one example : mp is, as a factual matter, the one who needs most things not put in. mp apparently needs to walk his bitches on a leash downtown, which romania doesn't even have words for, every newspaper in the country must drop whatever it was doing, selling cheap chinesiums, to talk about mp's weird needs now, and
mircea_popescu: the subjective paralysis is actually the problem. participating in the tavern wench chorus as to how bad your owner is prevents you from fucking thinking, or growing the fuck up (the two being related).
mircea_popescu: this isn't actually the problem though ; as well documented on trilema, the effect on powerful old men an' their behaviour of the tavern wench consensus is still the nil it's ever been.
mircea_popescu: if one just goes by the persuasion tradewinds, this lever's permanently stuck to position one ; and ridiculous nonsense flows downstream, superficially visible as "old men in power have been behaving badly" or w/e currently fashionable cri de guerre of the retard camp.
mircea_popescu: there's exactly no need to "stop rape", for instance. "being special" (defined as, "never being raped") is not some kind of "universal right of womanhood". no woman's born entitled to be special, she's born to be used, like any other blade of grass on this here GREEN earth. that specialdom may arise, as a mist, RETROSPECTIVELY, is one thing. but the problem needs no "solving" -- you don't wanna take the cock, don't. see ho
mircea_popescu: maybe what you're trying to select isn't something you should be selecting as part of what you're trying to do because what you;re trying to do is actually broken upstream. ODDS ARE.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-25 20:21:24 lobbes: indeed. Would just be a buncha "update" statements that fill in the proper lines. As it currently is designed, I have it spitting lines into a flat file first, and that file is used to update the "current day's log" post as new lines are seen
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-25 20:17:27 asciilifeform: lobbes: as i understand, with that type of logger you'd have to regen all of the pages that include or follow the gap, in order to close a filled gap.
asciilifeform: as naggum observed, regexism indeed helps to ~quickly~ shit out a proggy that ~appears~ to work. but it will never become proggy that ~actually worx~ i.e. can be shown to work for all inputs.
asciilifeform: this is not even to touch on the q of whether a particular shitlang's regextron even worx as specified.
asciilifeform: can be anyffin, even line count. so long as it can be mechanically derived from the actual lines, rather than clocks.
lobbes: Now, to revisit upstack, if you are intending to *sync* one mp-wp logger with another mp-wp logger, then I guess you'd run into the same issue as the trad. loggers. I.e. In order to sync you *would* need to index.
asciilifeform: for so long as concept of 'day' is used at all, 'the hole through which the night goes in'(tm) remains open
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-25 23:27:50 asciilifeform: ericbot: i'ma restate compactly. atm we index lines. by a monotonic # . the timestamps are stored as unix epochal times. the urls, however, demand a e.g. 2014-07-16 , and always did, and these both now and then were parsed via what the particular box thought local time was. resulting in headache, because machine timekeeping was , and remains, shite.
asciilifeform: ericbot: i'ma restate compactly. atm we index lines. by a monotonic # . the timestamps are stored as unix epochal times. the urls, however, demand a e.g. 2014-07-16 , and always did, and these both now and then were parsed via what the particular box thought local time was. resulting in headache, because machine timekeeping was , and remains, shite.
asciilifeform: ^ in this example, as we're using line-based selector, cites whole line. but if used fine-grained selector, could cite the selection.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-25 21:37:54 mircea_popescu: loggers as extant suffer from being built manalone style, from scratch, as such the only possible in-page selection is an ad-hoc (but very functional, as it happens) by-line.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-25#1938055 << iirc he described , 'cheated' by running a znc somewhere and so happened that at no point both fell down simultaneously ( just as e.g. snsabot and ossabot not yet fell down together )
asciilifeform: can't think of any reason not to ~display~ them as mircea_popescu described tho
mircea_popescu: loggers as extant suffer from being built manalone style, from scratch, as such the only possible in-page selection is an ad-hoc (but very functional, as it happens) by-line.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-25 20:12:27 lobbes: hmm this makes me rethink my current design re: mp-wp bot as well. As it stands, there is no way to "re-sync" since it just spits the lines into a blog post.
lobbes: in theory, could index the lines in that file, so as to preserve ordering, as well as keep more than one file (currently, this one file is overwritten on each new day)
lobbes: indeed. Would just be a buncha "update" statements that fill in the proper lines. As it currently is designed, I have it spitting lines into a flat file first, and that file is used to update the "current day's log" post as new lines are seen