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asciilifeform: so trinque then knows the decisions
asciilifeform: what happened to n00bs reading logs for 6 mo ?
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes et al: if anyone wants to suggest how to make recipe more digestible, please write.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: my patches are useless if folks can't build them and test
asciilifeform: not in the land of sunshine & kittenz, at any rate
asciilifeform: aha
asciilifeform: does have the behaviour described earlier, though
asciilifeform: decimation is right
asciilifeform: hm
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: don't hesitate to publicly gripe if i omitted a step in cookbook, etc
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i'm tuned in for what, 12-14 h/day? write in
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: make use of the fact that i am yet alive! post errorz, logs
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i carefully summarized the antecedents to 'stator' for hanbot (see log)
asciilifeform: the 'rotor' toolchain, for instance, tripped up some folks. but it needs to be built ~once per machine~ ☟︎
asciilifeform: what other than the patches ?
asciilifeform: i said before, will say again: if the labour of crunching the patches looms large, it is only because folks are not undergoing the greater torment of reading them
asciilifeform: (why aren't they?)
asciilifeform: agree
asciilifeform: ^
asciilifeform: you lot are reinventing 'version control' gadget
asciilifeform: and linked here
asciilifeform: trinque: i happen to think that throwing patches to ml, where they are all visible in chronological order, is a step forward from them living on my www
asciilifeform: once hygiene was invented - not using it was no longer 'reasonable'
asciilifeform: the tool that man can trust to replace his brains is not yet born
asciilifeform: decimation: the context is typically filled in, in pedantic detail, here.
asciilifeform: perhaps mircea_popescu will add to this illustration.
asciilifeform: 'why do i have to stand here and watch the hill'
asciilifeform: 'why am i sleeping in a hole in the ground next to hole in the ground where i shat'
asciilifeform: 'why do i have to move these sandbags?'
asciilifeform: guess what - war consists largely of precisely this kind of 'pointlessness'
asciilifeform: and yes, all of this looks like pointless sweat to the folks who struggle with builds, checking sigs, missed linefeedz, etc ☟︎
asciilifeform: need hard ~dates~ as well as identity. ☟︎
asciilifeform: (can automate this?)
asciilifeform: this, incidentally, is an important reason why patches need to be deedboted
asciilifeform: also the continuity of identity. if, for example, my patches at some point go from tiny to elephantine, from single-purpose to 'omnibus', from deadly-simple to 'wtf is that' - folks are to presume that i have been finally killed and key is in hands of hitler. and should then rate accordingly. ☟︎
asciilifeform: i sign xxx. the readers are then free to rate me accordingly. this is how is works, by design.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=14-07-2015#1200332 ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-08-2015#1225151 << we're not signing because it has 'upside' now. but 1) because unsigned code is 'written by no one' and hence is a work of the great satan by default implication 2) for the archaeologists 3) for the revolutionary tribunals ☝︎
asciilifeform: see the text of the patch.
asciilifeform: decimation: they are the two maps which hold mempool state
asciilifeform: it is the finger pushing in the plug into the hole the night leaks through.
asciilifeform: ;;later tell ben_vulpes i have nothing against 'git', 'mercurial', etc., and even sometimes use these in civilian life, there is even somewhere ~horror~ a 'github' page with my name and some old crud, yes. but the ~canonical walk from pedigreed 0.5.3 to therealbitcoin~ has to be in .patch form!
asciilifeform: (graphical browser)
asciilifeform: ^ anyone else sees this?
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu your www layout somehow cuts the lines on s.nsa statement
asciilifeform: (iirc ben_vulpes does this)
asciilifeform: can even get your favourite version control gizmo to shit out patches
asciilifeform: trinque: please put, if it helps you
asciilifeform: rather than for everyone on the planet.
asciilifeform: but yes, my particular ml posts are geared toward helping the folks i know to be presently involved ( ben_vulpes, mod6, trinque, mircea_popescu, shinohai, punkman, hanbot, who else?) to build.
asciilifeform: and what's more, this is pretty clear from reading it.
asciilifeform: (iirc the 40000 was set prior to it)
asciilifeform: btw the db patch is not marked with antecedents because it has none (since last release)
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: ideas welcome !
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: the patches 'stacked on one another' is an artifact of how diff works
asciilifeform: i gotta eat. brb
asciilifeform: at any rate, ben_vulpes is invited to fill in the gap and write literature for this piece
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: if there is every any symptom of folks reading the ml but not #b-a, it might be worth considering to use the ml as something other than a file dumping ground for #b-a
asciilifeform: eh no. my nodez ran from ignition until wedge day
asciilifeform: but world was on fire.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: he does have a point. and normally i include some 'work of literature' with these
asciilifeform: just 'here's a patch, i'd better eat it'
asciilifeform: did not read logz?
asciilifeform: srsly, ben_vulpes managed to install the uncorrected patch in the minutes between it and the new one ??
asciilifeform: see logz
asciilifeform: was a very rushed thing.
asciilifeform: recall, flagship nodes were wedged
asciilifeform: and correction was posted minutes later
asciilifeform: it was tested!
asciilifeform: guessed as much.
asciilifeform: that's why yer node is dead
asciilifeform: ahahahahaha
asciilifeform: and see what it does on your box.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: it uses maxint
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: go get the first (not 'CORRECTED') version of the patch
asciilifeform: this is apparently well-known to habitual users of 'boost'
asciilifeform: decimation: the point is that .clear() doesn't invoke the destructors
asciilifeform: was hoping, glass cannon fired.
asciilifeform: what a downer
asciilifeform: l0l
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: does not match mine!
asciilifeform: sha512?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: hash of plaintext?
asciilifeform: !
asciilifeform: link?
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: ~which~ patch did you apply ?
asciilifeform: which is why bitcoin has to be prevented from crashing, at more or less any cost
asciilifeform: (historically, i've found that fatal problems with db typically come from a dirty death)
asciilifeform: plz post?
asciilifeform: i don't see it in the paste
asciilifeform: where does it appear
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: you mentioned an error ?
asciilifeform: prolefeed.
asciilifeform: decimation: i often watch the trains go by, where i live. often, whole train is this.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: it stops here ?
asciilifeform: decimation: nowhere. implicit destructor
asciilifeform: of the recycled food - never
asciilifeform: this is actually why only prices of ~food-grade food~ rise in usa
asciilifeform: decimation: not ready for primetime yet
asciilifeform: decimation: yes