mircea_popescu: as i said, the principle of technical improvements isn't at issue here. your miserable discoursive and i'm starting to fear mental habits are.

mircea_popescu: yes, well, the leap in domain was not made by courtiers sitting around going "i bet you could totally use the philosopher\s stone to make aluminum cheap"

mircea_popescu: no. bought and for this purpose i have at least the basic idea of how shit works, and why. because i gotta know why am i paying this much.

mircea_popescu: it may not be the end all be all, but if you fail to impress me with your idea, you don't have an idea. absolute minimum bar, the master's eye which fattens the cows. ☟︎

mircea_popescu: no. but i have bought, you understand, BOUGHT boats and land and farms and horses and people and everything else. and i dun fucking like being george costanza, for random idiots to sell me "johnson rods" while fixing my car. so i spent my life essentially building endless lengthy lists of how everything works and why., EVERYTHING.

mircea_popescu: and no, you're not going to come off the cuff with something meaningful to say in that converesation, because you have no clue about the design space or the constraints. exactly like i have to tell you how a fucking tractor works to plow a fucking field. and so fucking on.

mircea_popescu: you can't buy this off the shelf. panels my foot. which is WHY http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-25#1661768 ☝︎

mircea_popescu: and the most bitter fruit of this entire tree of idiocy being that in six months to a year, we'll be right back to "oh, orlol boat and lizzards are keeping the hydrogen engine under wraps". ☟︎

mircea_popescu: to qualify in an argument with a fellow who routinely proceeds to idiocy on the level of "metal rusts" and whatnot.

mircea_popescu: the actual yacht which you can actually keep fucktoys on, which costs about 5 to 10 mn, does in point of fact take the labour of a thousand men over their lives. except we got tools to do it faster and cheaper.

mircea_popescu: it'll be better for boatbuilding than the plastic cutting item.

mircea_popescu: hurr durr. buy a teflonating laser.

mircea_popescu: industrial corrosive contaioners are all metal, from 10 gallon milk jugs to what have you. rust my fucking left food omfg.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform because your brain dun work. half the roofs in the world are made of metal, no rust. if you get operated on they'll uyse what, fucking abs tools ? "oh, can cut with laser!11"

mircea_popescu: then you come and whine about all the boost in bitcoin and all the java everywhere. guess what ? they were building alfboatsd

mircea_popescu: remember ? you didn't like the correct solution (metal) because... you don't have a cnc mill. and that's a fucking criteria in design now, what the fuck engineer has lying about and perceives underutilized, esp if he happens to thin kit's cvool.

mircea_popescu: eh, again with this. no, boat != wood. boat AS DEFINED BY ALF, however, = wood.

mircea_popescu: this is way the fuck better than anything you came up with so far, and we're not even trying. nor pretending to be keeping a blog about it, a la orlol.

mircea_popescu: though honestly, could also be made of pet bottles, arranged the other way. that'd help buoyancy!

mircea_popescu: things work the way they work because that's the way they work not because alien dragons from outer space.

mircea_popescu: and they ALSO charge what that cost in rome. ~whole value of house.

mircea_popescu: no. this is what fd does in "ourdemocracy" : like in latin empire, demolishes the one on fire to save the ones not yet caught.

mircea_popescu: tell you what, if boats were made of plastic the MTBS would be a week, and the "lizards" runnin the coast guard would charge you.

mircea_popescu: you mean the same lizards who provide the fire dept services your "house" utterly needs ?

mircea_popescu: oh i see, you're one of those, will build spaceship out of cheese and power with fresh milk because you got a dairy farm ?

mircea_popescu: this bad habit of having a firm idea of the solution to a problem you don't either understand or bother specifying.

mircea_popescu: how did you pick abs rather than i dunno, duralumin ?

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you'll need more basis for that besides "i'm alf and i dun like it". the ocean's been there longer than you have.

mircea_popescu: i have nfi what veblenwood is supposed to be, nor is it part of this conversation.

mircea_popescu: no, at the "boat making" folks.

mircea_popescu: which is what you're doing. you wanna go there, go there. intel, muscle, the works.

mircea_popescu: but just because you're the prince of alflandia does not mean you can simply walk into an unknown barrio and talk smack at the locals.

mircea_popescu: there's no argument against that ; nor is there any argument against the principle.

mircea_popescu: one day i want to see your "plain glass lenses cemented with cyanoacrylate -- it's transparent!!1" collection of telescopes.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform problem is not how destructibvle it is, problem is that it's ~unjoinable. plastic boarts are generaslly whole hull.

mircea_popescu: plastic IS used in boatsmaking, but it is specially made plastic, for the purpose. ☟︎

mircea_popescu: they're not rated for the fucking ocean.

mircea_popescu: boats are exactly thje same, which is why my http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-25#1661584 comment. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: ther than some bits and pieces of a foundry installed in your kitchen.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the places where craftsmanship makes sense are eg the tomato planters discussed above. yes they have tractors that plow, but these tractors do not plow planters. EXACT same principle applies making boats -- or for that matter silicone. you somehow seem to understand that if you want "artisanal computer" the correct approach is mechanical calculator ; and if you want oceanworth computer gotta have the foundry, ra

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-25#1661647 << neither do you. for that matter, these are not actually useful for craftsman ; they are useful for mass producer. ☝︎

mircea_popescu is entirely undecided whether it's good or bad trait.

mircea_popescu: are you encoraging teh tendency ?

mircea_popescu: good, let him do it, that's one mess actually worth cleaning up.

mircea_popescu: i think i was about 4.

mircea_popescu: diana_coman yup. also in the strange properties of materials. i once spent a half hour pouring water from one reciipeint to another.

mircea_popescu: you can't have both of these at the same time, and duck behind one or the other depending which vein of solutions for your entirely psychogenic issue masquerading orally as a "technical problem" are being suggested.

mircea_popescu: gotta decide if your idea is "nothing can beat self-same craftsmanship and i am willing to sink in the time" OR "i will sink in no time, give me whatever trhe fuck it is that takes no time and effort".

mircea_popescu: and because b) everything else is harder to work with.

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-25#1661645 << because a) wood is still, to this day, the better material for the purpose, in the sense lee sedol is the better go player. note that these WERE YOUR OWN CONSTRAINTS! you despise "made to rust iron bottoms", which is outright idiotic but in the common vein of "alf has no clue but figures he can have oppinion". you do not wish to pay the price of industrial process. you stirctly spe ☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-25#1661643 << that's how they do it, like sicilians marry off the daughters. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-25#1661639 << wait, in ~connecticut~ ? they have pretty decent restaurants there, which were the top 3 ? ☝︎☟︎

mircea_popescu: i suspect it should go in the "normal development handbook", 4-5 yo with no interest in mother kitchen activities is prolly under 80 iq.

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-25#1661640 << are you kidding me, i loved to fuck around the kitchen with my mom at that age. made all sorts of engineer pies, too! ☝︎☟︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-25#1661628 << ahahaah this is true innit. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: basically, the russians are jews.

mircea_popescu: though from experience russians a) never go alone (unless female, in which case they dun keep the money there anyway, if they ever get it) ; b) sorta delegate one to keep the dough.

mircea_popescu: eh, i've yet to meet a greek that used their banks.

mircea_popescu: whereas all prepackaged sauce is the same endless variation of "let's see which ways we could flavour margarine / substitutes"