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dvsdude: had a question back in the day on bitcoin-assets
dvsdude: sorry didn't mean to interrupt
shinohai: We support you *morally* tho Preet.
mircea_popescu: pity they don't have a buck.
mircea_popescu: shinohai you know, if all those useless libertards that clicked the heart button gave him a buck, he could almost make mortgage payments.
mircea_popescu: trying to find that zaragoza destroyed fresco, of which i'm sure i wrote, i ended up with, among other detritus, http://trilema.com/2012/criptograma-starii-lucrurilor-celor-moi-de-mijloc/
shinohai: (Brought to you by Preet)
shinohai: http://archive.is/vBDLw "Please, someone I WANT A JOB TOO"
mircea_popescu: i'm not bad, writing scathing religious tract, kinda curious if danielpbarron won't like me anymore after he reads it. ☟︎
shinohai is sitting on pation having coffee and listening to a blue-jay and squirrel trade insults.
deedbot: http://www.contravex.com/2017/05/26/the-new-public-library-evermore-public-everless-library/ << » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski - The new public library: evermore public, everless library.
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/379E605805EF5BA5DA1A039882EDBCFF02E932DE70567562516BA06826644F54 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1626...1193 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '207.192.74.124 (ssh-rsa key from 207.192.74.124 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (li38-124.members.linode.com. US NJ)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/379E605805EF5BA5DA1A039882EDBCFF02E932DE70567562516BA06826644F54 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1785...6599 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '207.192.74.124 (ssh-rsa key from 207.192.74.124 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (li38-124.members.linode.com. US NJ)
mircea_popescu: nah, some sort of staph i think
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in other disadvantages of kissing all the random chicks / hanging out with "lesbians", i got the worst fucking cold ;/
BingoBoingo: Ah, but has gone from mind numbingly slow to, slow but on par with "feature checkbox"
BingoBoingo presently surprised with performance of "tapcon" masonry drill bit performance in 12v drill. Slow, but no slower than hammer drill. Tis possible the space between compact drill and full blown rotary hammer is without future
asciilifeform: but i suspect that it is already written, somewhere, i will not attempt to reinvent bicycle.
asciilifeform: mod6: it is probably possible to write a treatise re how proper programming is the art of the 'unsexy', of necessary but unexciting work , like well-mopped floor or well-peeled potato
a111: Logged on 2017-05-26 17:52 mircea_popescu: shinohai is that good for altcoins ?
shinohai: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-26#1662654 <<< Good for all agitated teat coins. ☝︎
asciilifeform: dun worry mod6 , soon you too will be jaded and not ever again impressed with ~anything ..!
mod6: I think what is simple, obvious, and kindergarden-esq to you, is, at least for me, still very impressive.
asciilifeform: at some point i intend to try to convince mircea_popescu to read it and it'll be ultimate test
asciilifeform: mod6: possibly it needs to be simpler, then, intent is that no 'awe' should result from reading it, it oughta be screamingly obvious
mod6: I read through ffa, and it 'makes sense' to me as far as what you're doing in most cases -- as I understand the intent of the expressions. but i stand in awe, especially after trying my own hand at Ada, at what you've produced.
asciilifeform: mod6: morale improves, at least in my experience, once you begin to write working proggy from 1st try, after period of banging head against compiler
mod6: i really started getting into ada like... maybe a month or to ago, even though I kinda started nosing through the Ada 95 Ref book a while before.
mod6: <+asciilifeform> took asciilifeform year+ to 'get used to' << yeah, im def. at least a year behind :/
mod6: aha, yeah, i do the same sometimes too.
mircea_popescu: mod6 sometimes i wish to re-read what i'm about to say, so i write it in advance.
mod6: mircea_popescu: was that a quote from somewhere, or your own text just in one large paste?
mod6: i figure, the more i work with it / use it, the easier it'll come.
mircea_popescu: while you were still doing new material, this was merely tedious and unpleasant ; but since you're doing re-runs these days it's simply insufferable. ima take you off ignore now, but plox to bear in mind that too much dumbalf in the mix actually makes talking to you -ev.
mircea_popescu: but he pivots seamlessly, like duck in water, or if you prefer like textbook idiot : there's absolutely no sign whatsoever that all the time wasted on educating it left any kind of mark whatsoever -- a sad suspicion confirmed by the cyclical nature of the nonsense. so he'll proceed to defend the new half second half baked "idea" in the same manner.
mircea_popescu: but then, once however many also intelligent, also with interesting things to say folks have wasted however many hours of their life showing dumbalf that indeed, dumb=dumb and stupid=stupid, dumbalf will just spend ANOTHER half second to come up with another bit of nonsense, vaguely related if related at all, and pivot to that.
mircea_popescu: s, of course, does nothing -- stupid shit is predictable and it's not going to catch smart people unprepared.
mircea_popescu: as it happens, dumbalf wishes to spend all its time, and if possible everyone else's time, engaged in the following infantile game : it will spend about half a second to come up with some strong statement that's evidently false, entirely predicated on ignorance, pure nonsense. then he'll defend it tooth and nail, for hours if need be, exploring every nook and cranny of stupid shit that could be said to defend stupid shit. thi
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the problem is this : you're an intelligent fellow that has interesting things to say, sometimes. some other times, however, you metamorphosize into dumbalf. i have no idea if it's the phases of the moon or what you ate that day or what, but the change is palpable.
asciilifeform: took asciilifeform year+ to 'get used to'
mod6: this all makes sense, and for this strictness I like it. im just not quite used to it all yet.
asciilifeform: mod6: whole thing is a quite painful experience until it begins to dawn on you why the various 'fascisms' are there.
mod6: <+asciilifeform> ^ put at the head of your main body, and see what ends up barfing << im gonna try this and see if that helps a bit more.
mod6: <+asciilifeform> i get this. but using heap is even more of 'adventure' in ada. << ahh, i see.
asciilifeform: for instance, the almost ubiquitous c-ism, of creating a pointer (ada 'access') variable on a procedure's local (stack) and passing it to something -- anything -- is illegal ☟︎
asciilifeform: ( gotta prove to the compiler that pointer under NO circumstances can wander 'off the reservation', and it will reject certain obviously 'to naked eye' valid uses, and you will tear hair out )
asciilifeform: you will run against the 'access' (pointer) visibility rules, which are downright 'fascist'
asciilifeform: i get this. but using heap is even more of 'adventure' in ada.
mod6: Oh yeha, for sure, normally, i wouldn't do such a thing. but i'm just trying to grab the reins at this point. just get ~something~ to actually work.
asciilifeform: ^ put at the head of your main body, and see what ends up barfing
mod6: So my progress was pretty solid. But I'm not all the way there yet.
asciilifeform: i recommend to avoid unboundedstring and other runtime-heaptronic types, esp for n00bz
mod6: so then i took a step back. decided to do something like what the initial steps of my V do; list the contents of a directory, throw the filenames into a list using Doubly_Linked_Lists(Unbounded_String) and then attempt to pass them to another function that does further parsing.
asciilifeform: ( because it can in fact be invoked in ~arbitrary places, and with params not predetermined at compile time, unlike cpp template )
asciilifeform: ada generics are interesting, they are not like cpp templates, not mere string substitution -- the thing actually has to prove correct for any legal invocation, anywhere
mod6: i set out to do something similar to what phf had been doing by writing some tests utilizing ffa. but then i couldn't figure out how to even make a package with function or procedure that used a generic type.
asciilifeform: mod6: idea is to prevent runtime surprises at any cost.
mod6: asciilifeform: aha. i can tell you from my own recent adventures into learning ada that it is strict, and strong.
mircea_popescu: shinohai is that good for altcoins ? ☟︎
asciilifeform: to asciilifeform's shame , he instrumented the proggy in gdb, found nothing useful, in the end found with strace.
asciilifeform: because such is the rule, it has to have room for max possible size...
asciilifeform: and the proggy will try to ALLOCATE THAT PER FZ
asciilifeform: mod6: but i forgot the rule that if you type Blah(Optional : SomeMachineType := itsdefaultvalue) is record ....
asciilifeform: mod6: somewhat relatedly, chased bug in ffa for a ~week : wanted to make FZ.Z a trimmable ( e.g. length set as optional param ) so as to enable karatsubaization (which does 0 useful without being able to, for it and nothing else, constrain the lenght of FZ)
shinohai: I haz agiteated the locals
jhvh1: shinohai: The operation succeeded.
shinohai: !~later tell BingoBoingo So my consensus piece got removed from r/bitcoin, r/btc, and was DV'd into oblivion on r/buttcoin though it is still there.
BingoBoingo: Sure the car may be French, but it's yours and the level 1337 GUARDIAN REDDITARD is going to know it
BingoBoingo: Make things happen to Sam, win the hearts of the locals!
BingoBoingo: It's like making things happen to Sam
mircea_popescu: i'd vote for a guy who beat up a redditard. how bad can he be ? he got the basics right.
BingoBoingo: Anyways, I hope this emergent trend grows into next spring's congressional primaries. Candidates eating a misdemeanor rap in exchange for pajama boy beating cred.
mircea_popescu: i trust the pantsuit clown party is well butthurt over the serious threat to ourdemocracy presented by inept child behaviour meeting some sort of correction in practice.
BingoBoingo: The grass s always greener on BingoBoingo's side of the fence
ben_vulpes: and the green grass grows all around all around and the green grass grows all around
ben_vulpes: fortunately this is only ever terpenorary
mircea_popescu: most puns dun work, most wisdom is folly, sometrhing something the holly./
ben_vulpes: teh java has burnt my appreciation for wordplay to a stub
ben_vulpes: this is another word for terroir?
mircea_popescu: eh, no terrine no wine.
ben_vulpes: not that anyone will ever believe me about the gorgeous product of the dundee hills
mircea_popescu: anyway. the problem with wine is that better wine and expensive wine do not well correlate. for the past 40 or so years europe sat on a lake of wine. you can have perfectly fine wines for the cost of the bottling, you can also spend as-much-as-you-want for idiot veblen americana.
ben_vulpes: that's about as much thought as ive put into disposing of my spoils
ben_vulpes: i plan to buy retardedly nice wine
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes fwiw there's a "new, better, altenrative" for everything every week. kinda what the you know, "people ready with a gameplan if they suddenly got rich" spend their time with.
ben_vulpes: all downhill from there
asciilifeform: ( the apotheosis moment of segway was when the chump who bought the co from the original sc4mz0r, finally drove his personal unit off a tall cliff ! )
asciilifeform: why folx so eager to make new, and new
asciilifeform: and it isn't as if the original golden toilet of this genre, 'segway', had not bombed
asciilifeform: what exactly is the point of a vehicle that maxes out at 'speed of runner' ?
ben_vulpes: when i could muster the shits to get down to "ev summit" or whateverthefuck they called it someone was noodling around on one
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: That thing is too glossy, has to be vaporware
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: 'Volume consumer sales are targeted for late 2015.' lel
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Then not a plough, but a trencher
BingoBoingo: Nah, power comes from rear wheel, would have to completely reverse the drivetrain and make front wheel drive
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: why not plough by taking off one wheel
ben_vulpes: "free-for-all and sometimes toxic social sites like Reddit"
BingoBoingo: “Neat little bike, and more fun than a barrel of monkeys to ride, evidenced by the grown men squealing like ten-year-old girls when they grab a fistful of throttle and try to twist it off. That’s something I do not recommend trying right away until you get a feel for it, ’cause the front end needs very little encouragement to come off the ground." << This thing is screaming for a sleeve hitch and moldboard plough
BingoBoingo: In other research, OMG A TWO WHEELED TRACTOR!!! https://www.topspeed.com/motorcycles/motorcycle-reviews/yamaha/2016-2017-yamaha-tw200-ar171244.html ☟︎
asciilifeform: i naively imagine that if tree, it'd have flattened more of it, and would have been thrown out