asciilifeform: phun phakt: when it appeared, american schools began to use it as a mandatory undergrad textbook. and you can measure precisely when each school turned full-bore retard by ~when they stopped~
asciilifeform: the original scheme ~standard~ is <50 pages.
asciilifeform: and 3) great student exercise, where the kids won't demand to hear why both 'elt' and 'nth' exist (perennial retardation example from cl, which was born in a 'no vendor left behind' multi-turdculturist compromise)
asciilifeform: scheme remains 1) a very clean scripting language to embed in another proggy 2) a very spiffy starting point for a future lisp (including hardware)
asciilifeform: landing in a kind of 'worst of both worlds' valley
asciilifeform: this was mostly understood by the enthusiasts around a decade ago, but some of the response was also pathological: 'let's bolt on a huge turd of a standard library'
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-08-2015#1229675 << complicated. scheme is an example of a 'suckless movement' that didn't catch on. that is, 'throw out all the legacy crud', but after that the thing has to be inhabited. if not inhabited, then dies young, while leaving, yes, beautiful corpse☝︎
asciilifeform: (even cn is mostly unleaded now, in response to eu pressure)
asciilifeform: and nobody cancelled them or is about to
asciilifeform: possibly 'rohs'/leadfree solder are at fault
asciilifeform: the vendors are insistent that this is no longer happening, but there is strong reason to not believe this any more than anything else that ever came out of their mouths
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-08-2015#1229582 << if meant 'perly', i welcome suggestions of how it could be made less so. but - the incantation works. i encourage folks to try it. presently investigating how to re-sign things while preserving all timestamps.☝︎
asciilifeform: just when i though i'd have to write a mod for it
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: recent wireshark actually tries to parse bitcoin
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: you only now realized this?!
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: if you want intelligent slice&dice --- wireshark. or write own.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: if you want raw packet payloads, tcpdump will disgorge'em.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: as described in your article re: the herring fishermen, the scandinavians forgot what actual work looks like 1000 years ago.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: if it is to parse automatically on unattended spy satellite, then yes, something else, not wireshark
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: and it cannot be said that i do not believe in a 'software canon.' just that very few folks have heard of it, just as j. s. bach's music did not play for two centuries at one point. e.g., mccarthy's 'lisp 1.5'; weizenbaum's 'eliza'; ... many others
