asciilifeform: pair of 'aa' cells runs it for a MONTH
asciilifeform: and runs msdos, even. complete with xmm!
asciilifeform: i was playing with a hp200lx, it is orders of magnitude more responsive than 'iPnohe' etc. for note taking, text editing, spreadshits, etc
asciilifeform: and it isn't as if we don't have history to learn from.
asciilifeform: it has to start out as an abstract 'don't shit in your drinking water'
asciilifeform: slow, painful process, like teaching the water closet to india.
asciilifeform: the poor english folks have not invented this technology yet. so gotta teach'em.
asciilifeform: but upside is that we aren't passing around a massive binary turd.☟︎
asciilifeform: then again, 99% of the time spent by folks who aren't me, thus far, appears to have been spent chasing various annoying little misconfigurations
asciilifeform: he was in his early 20s, iirc, and it was an upgrade from driving truck, so looked like a good job.
asciilifeform: they didn't even 'clearance' the slaves, as this costs far too much and eats into the margins
asciilifeform: i know a fellow who used to work in one of those farms
asciilifeform: phf: this labour is traditionally contracted out, aha
asciilifeform: phf: perhaps my perspective is a little skewed because i do hardware.
asciilifeform: a simple calculation shows that - unless one is extraordinarily lucky - the effort which goes into finding a typical vuln, vs the typical 'bug bounty' offered by, e.g., microshit, works out to approximately u.s. minimum wage.
asciilifeform: and/or do not want to give aid and comfort to usg.
asciilifeform: the point i was trying to make is that: i hypothesize that the '0day market' consists very largely of folks who are sitting on 0day and not 'marketing' at all☟︎
asciilifeform: it is virtually always the same kind of thing.
asciilifeform: but occasionally read the slides, at the instigation of colleagues and various other folks
asciilifeform: for the record, i have never attended such an event
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the way it presently works is that the seller is at the total mercy of the buyer. disposable 19y.o. puts up with this because he is fucked in the head. a grown man - typically - does not
asciilifeform: also fewer 'eiffel towers built of matchsticks' - elaborately labyrinthine 'rube goldberg' machines, like the last third of that slide deck, which ultimately sum to 'i read a 486 manual taken from a dumpster'
asciilifeform: phf: there was, at one time, considerably less flavour of scammitude and in-your-face lying
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: ... if you find it you can sell it. << not quite. i, for instance, can't sell it☟︎
asciilifeform: phf: except that my fucking ~~~486~~~ reference manual describes smm
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: one reason for this change is that ~actual~ exploits are (or are at least now thought to be) worth money.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-08-2015#1237135 << so, i read the slides. 1) 20MB powerpoint pdf turd?!!! wtf, people. 2) the picture which implies priv escalation is disingenuous. there is, just as i said earlier, no esclation. you gotta be in ring0 to move the apic window. NONE OF THIS SHIT WAS SECRET, how did they even get a talking slot at 'blackhat' ?☝︎
