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BingoBoingo: I run a node on 0.8.6 as a charity for the SPV wallet using freeloaders
mircea_popescu: The tale is told, too, of a certain woman who performed an aeolian crepitation at a dinner attended by the witty Monsignieur Dupanloup, Bishop of Orleans, and that when, to cover up her lapse, she began to scrape her feet upon the floor, and to make similar noises, the Bishop said, "Do not trouble to find a rhyme, Madam!"
bitcoinquestions: anyone here wanna play bitcoin bounce? It's a simple game I made up to build up trust. Person A sends person B .5 BTC then person B ends the game by either running with the money or returning .5 BTC. Person B can continue the game by sending Person A 1 BTC back. Rinse and repeat.
mircea_popescu: it's always possible one convinces himself anything's a good idea.
bitcoinquestions: Like is this a real threat?
bitcoinquestions: It's perfectly tricky though - it does at first seem like a good idea.
bitcoinquestions: And there's no way Gavin doesn't know exactly what he's doing, right? Like is it possible he convinced himself that it was a good idea?
bitcoinquestions: mircea_popescu: I did a lot more critical thinking about the blocksize limit and holy shit I feel so dumb for ever thinking Gavin's proposal was a good idea.
mircea_popescu: everyone can "do a little coding' just like any man could ride a horse in 1800.
mod6: asciilifeform: when you get a chance, you should do a new submission to the list for the alert & win32 patches. thx in advance.
BingoBoingo: mod6: Saw that. I'm building a different phoundation version for personal use.
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BingoBoingo: Question for the foundation: When futzing with bitcoin sources to build more recent phoundation version, changing the constant in alert.cpp to garbage will keep a node so built from recognizing and/or passing a Gavin alert. Yes or no?
bitcoinquestions: by code I mean knows a little bit of python and by everyone I mean 75%+
cazalla: anyone reading the hong kong 400m bitcoin loss and wondering why it's not on qntra, difficult to ascertain the facts on this one but it would appear hong kong media are clueless.. speaks to qntra's need for a chinese correspondent
BingoBoingo: bitcoinquestions: This channel has rather good global coverage. Even Africa is included in regular participants. Asian participation is a bit lacking though.
trinque: bitcoinquestions: having loved ones is a good reason to get out of the US.
bitcoinquestions: I would do anything to be able to drive the price down because I'm collecting coins, but I was wondering whether or not there's a point where you are happy with your assets in terms of BTC and then just want to increase the value of the coins
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bitcoinquestions: mircea_popescu: alright fair enough, I was just proposing a hypothetical to make sure I understood your position.
mircea_popescu: and that if i or anyone else decides to bomb that place that's that for new hard drives for a decade or more.
mircea_popescu: which lasted for a summer.
mircea_popescu: and that at one point, when they had a flood, hard drive prices exploded on the market by a factor of 3
mircea_popescu: exactly schmexactly. there's a difference between the idle imagination of youth and the knowledge of men. for instance : i know but you don't know that the vast majority of hard drives are produced in the same few acres of asian shore.
bitcoinquestions: mircea_popescu: Ah I see. Interesting. That is definitely the case as of today. That being said, let's say I create a company that is able to provide hard drive space for cheaper, but I only accepted payment in BTC. If this company existed would your opinion change?
bitcoinquestions: mircea_popescu: Ah okay I reread and understand a little better I believe. But why do you assume you need to pay for more disk space in fiat?
mircea_popescu: so : a) gavin is in no way involved in bitcoin development ; b) gavin's insanities have nothing to do with bitcoin's problems, and in no case are they solutions. as you'd expect of someone who has nothing to do with it in the first place.
mircea_popescu: to understand exactly the situation, you have camles and donkeys, and have to carry a billion tons of rubble.
mircea_popescu: this is completely differet a matter, and it is not proper to mix it together in the consideration of an actual problem. it is not an actual problem.
mircea_popescu: unrelated to all of this, a usg mole is proposing to change bitcoin into something unsustainable.
mircea_popescu: looky here : growing larger implies growing costs. this is a given. a larger bitcoin will somehow be paid for. ☟︎
bitcoinquestions: mircea_popescu: Okay of course the proponents of the change are the ones who must justify it. But the justification is pretty simple, with a larger block size the network can support more transactions per second. This allows more transactions to be onchain instead of through trusted identities.
mircea_popescu: you said that you read my articles, which is nice, but it'd be a lot better if instead of saying you did you showed me you did, by asking meaningful rather than meaninglessly general questions.
mircea_popescu: this is a recurring topic here.
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bitcoinquestions: A cloak?
mircea_popescu: get a cloak will you.
decimation: well, there's a certain lefty predilection toward paranoia/violence that seems stable over the centuries
mircea_popescu: yeah, that's a true old courthouse favourite, "i pay your salary"
thestringpuller: I say that to cops a lot when they pull me over for being black
assbot: A dying race- two Boston Brahmins converse (from AMERICAN TO - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1DU01aK )
decimation: but before that it was used to describe Massachusetts men who spoke with a particular accent and had a particular affinity with the anglo colonizers
mircea_popescu: apparently "brahmin" has a lengthy usage to describe the cult of the dead cow of massachussetts ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform "In the United States polite letters was a cult of the Brahmins of Boston, with William Dean Howells at the helm of the Atlantic." << Release Date: August 20, 2006 [EBook #3190]
decimation: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1299 < "One clever soul suggested applying this doctrine to yet a fourth profession, creating a kind of “programmer priest.” Perhaps one day there will indeed be someone you can trust to pronounce – truthfully and competently – that a crypto-system is strong, that a protocol has not been diddled, that your computer serves only a single master."
decimation: "The ritual traces its origins to professor H. E. T. Haultain of the University of Toronto, who believed and persuaded other members of the Engineering Institute of Canada that there needed to be a ceremony and standard of ethics developed for graduating engineers. The need was patently obvious in the light of the Quebec Bridge disasters."
BingoBoingo: ^mircea_popescu: sometimes i fantasize about buying an old english castle, turning it into a computing school for nude 18 to 22 yo ladies, and putting alf in charge of it, with a flexible bamboo cane. << wrong pasta buffer
BingoBoingo: School administrator was puzzled by the combatants being "A" students without long disciplinary records didn't see fit to issue discipline to either party as the aggressor learned he wasn't fit to aggress.
BingoBoingo: Well, I'd been annoyed by his build up to this event for a few day, twas enough of a greivance.
mircea_popescu: i didn't beat him up, it was kinda incongruous. he had no real quarrel, posed no real threat and besides, as far as teh adults were concerned i was a silver spoony gentleman.
mircea_popescu: decimation> in particular with paragliding, I think that it attracts a certain set of folk who might not consider safety as a top priority << i think paragliding is much like hunting, a sport intended for empty land.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: the best chemistry lab, were it to be maintained as a collection of bottles going "stuff" "Good stuff!" "REagenT" etc 18:23:12 mircea_popescu: would not really work. << This is why other big cause of home explosion is meth "labs"
mircea_popescu: a total of nine exploded in a decade in timisoara (tiny town, 300k)
decimation: BingoBoingo: yeah that's true. occasionally a house explodes too
BingoBoingo: decimation: Well failures of the natural gas system tend to be more... catastrophic... I remember as a child the day half of my hometown was evacuated because ditch diggers broke an incoming pipe at the edge of town.
mircea_popescu: bitcoinquestions in general a machine is secure if its secure. linux is not a magic pill. as danielpbarron suggests, not connecting it to the internet helps a lot, but also makes it more difficult.
BingoBoingo: decimation: in the us gas heat is common, but typical large us house has a 'forced air' system that moves heated air around the house << Natural gas backup generators for homes are not unheard of here, occasionally going up to home's normal electricity consumption.
ben_vulpes: sink rate being a thing; angle of attack being a thing...
decimation: it strikes me that if the wind suddenly shifts they could easily bash their heads into a rock
decimation: ben_vulpes: yeah I guess that's what I thought was happening when he gets close to the ground, but there's probably not enough of a 'cushion' to do the turns they are doing
ben_vulpes: GE entails actually riding on a compressed cushion between the foil and the ground, not the lift off the foil alone.
decimation: folks who volunteer to jump out of a perfectly good aircraft?
decimation: in particular with paragliding, I think that it attracts a certain set of folk who might not consider safety as a top priority
ben_vulpes: i saw a gents quadrotor get sucked into its own downdraft near a wall one time, and slam itself repeatedly into said wall while its pilot tried to rescue it
danielpbarron: is the machine connected to a network?
bitcoinquestions: If I generate a key on a MAC OS that I use for other purposes is it at all secure? Or should I not even bother generating keys if I'm not on a linux distro?
mircea_popescu: if you recall it was a hurried samizdat
mircea_popescu: im not even sure pgp has a spec.
gabriel_laddel: t) rather than just a false positive. Again, I've never written C, and perhaps the ast is so complicated that it's actually impossible to get any useful information out of it, but my current experience suggests that having this ability is a good idea. Building something like `slime-who-calls' suddenly becomes simple.
gabriel_laddel: Why might one want to see the C ast? Let's say that we've got a codebase like the linux kernel, or opengl drivers. You know that somewhere you've got some stuff that talks to the hardware, but grep returns false positives. You instead pull the ast into memory, query across it for the bits your looking for. False positives now indicate something about the language (i.e., that I don't understand it as well as I though
gabriel_laddel: As for PGP, I'm assuming that I'm going to have to spend a decent amount of time with the codebase and reading the spec. Perhaps not.
gabriel_laddel: it, and nothing else will ever be a substitute for thought.
asciilifeform off to meatspace for a spell, unfortunately not for any reasons pertaining to ancient castles
asciilifeform: for the purpose of taking a flamethrower to it and replacing with something sane - grep + eyes has always sufficed
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: You've never desired to query over a bunch of gnarly C code?
mircea_popescu: then after a decade i come by and go... "why did she write this!"
mircea_popescu: sometimes i fantasize about buying an old english castle, turning it into a computing school for nude 18 to 22 yo ladies, and putting alf in charge of it, with a flexible bamboo cane.
asciilifeform: haskell package <<< pay someone to add a sexpr backend to it so I can work it into my CL toolchain ...
asciilifeform: 'clean' as in, i whip out a stick and point to a line, and you can tell my why it's there.
gabriel_laddel: As for what language I'll be using on any given project, it will be determined entirely by what is correct for the project. If I hack something out in CL, but switch it over to C, I'll do that. If it makes sense to release a protopye that is hacked together C+CL+CFFI I'll do that. In any case, both of these come after getting the #b-a distro finished.
gabriel_laddel: My current plan for dealing with these projects: The haskell package Language.C.AST parses C99 entirely, taking into account all GCC extensions. I'm going to pay someone to add a sexpr backend to it so I can work it into my CL toolchain.
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: which wasn't any kind of orchestra but a spy network
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: not a theatre. the 'red orchestra'
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: you had a alternate name for gossipd based on russian theater that had some relation to the nazis. I couldn't find the wiki article again, care to point me to it?
cazalla: ;;later tell bingoboingo hey, remember that fish i told you about? hooked and landed it after a few days :)
asciilifeform wishes to point out that a 'sane pgp' will not be pgp-compatible. because much of the insanity lies in the standard itself.
gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: as for now, I just want to have a clear idea of what the interface is, what the problems are etc.
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel you seriously thinking of implementing a sane pgp ? ☟︎
asciilifeform: now the next phase of moon-chair-stacking, that nix may or may not have yet entered, is to decide that the turd they have created and are doomed to dine on is in fact a sausage, and to lash out angrily at folks pointing out the actual facts
gabriel_laddel: " As far as I can tell, were one to extrapolate from the given information to a set of concrete requirements we see that NixOS plans to rewrite the build scripts for every version of every project on unix. Again, this is insane. The correct thing to do in this situation is to realize the utter impossibility of the task that has been set forth and re-evaluate one's approach.[1]" << [1] links to the quote previously d
thestringpuller: too many action movies as a child I 'spose
thestringpuller: guess it's an american phenomenon. I find I hate driving in traffic. But lemme open up a sports car at 120-130 MPH somewhere "Top Gear" style and I have a blast.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: random: but I recall you said you don't like driving so you don't. You're driven. Do you ever "want" to drive in some ideal scenario? A racetrack or something?
mircea_popescu: anyway : the quote you took carries a certain meaning in its original context (physics - esp "natural" is a term of art in physics) and is an entirely different thing in the new context (coding). i fully agree with the quote as it is on the source blog
gabriel_laddel: wtf is this, we're discussing a footnote in something I posted.
mircea_popescu: you know it's not your trial for being a badman, this.
gabriel_laddel: That said, I've had the experience several times of reading trilema or the logs, not immediately grokking it, returning a day later to have it all 'click'. I'm thinking that might happen here.
gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: eh, that was a footnote.