asciilifeform: 'mir publishing' 1990 or near.

asciilifeform: funnily enuff, to close the circle, yrs later i actually ran into kurosh ed. in 100% king's english

asciilifeform: i get away with it here, mostly, but usg.prof prolly not .

asciilifeform: 'here, have this mega-opus in martian'

asciilifeform: cuz to ~whom~ recommend.

asciilifeform: quite.

asciilifeform: but d00d was , idk, 80+ y.o., and forgot what step 2 was...

asciilifeform: he ended up hiring undergrad-asciilifeform to... sit in a (princely) locking (!) office and read mountain of treatise re ion engines.

asciilifeform: they had this d00d, who was chief of sov space ministry at the time of venera probe.

asciilifeform: by the time i got to'em already mostly eaten by termites inside.

asciilifeform: i found some prior to them expiring, didnt make much diff

asciilifeform: i went in with duffelbags and pocketed it all.

asciilifeform: ( seems like a ru maffs prof keeled over / retired, and all of his shelf was tossed )

asciilifeform: i actually picked up a ru transl, which i had nfi existed until found in a skip (!) at same uni

asciilifeform: of course there was 1 at the library (at the time, naodays library mostly hollowed out), the tomes stuck together from age, just like the lenin on the 4th floor

asciilifeform: (spoiler -- nope)

asciilifeform: i went to what at the time was supposed to be a 'decent' public uni in usa, and do you think anyone assigned knuth ?

asciilifeform: ( what little of use that ~does~ exist in eng, is 'ancient' and 'wouldn't do!11' to assign, cuz threadbare faculty would rather pad own pockets and send chumpers to buy ~their~ dead tree rubbish ) ☟︎

asciilifeform: e.g. brin elder would've luvved to assign e.g. kurosh as the textbook, i suspect, but could not , it dun exist afaik in eng ☟︎

asciilifeform: i can't speak for europistans, but in 'new world' this is a dire problem, there largely ~aint~ any good book.

asciilifeform: lol i had this ~erry time i walked into a course

asciilifeform: it.

asciilifeform: aha.

asciilifeform: some folx write to kill tree, others -- to actually get the material across to reader.

asciilifeform: d00d knew how to avoid bloating.

asciilifeform: diana_coman: it wasn't actively 'break out in hives' allergenic, is all.

asciilifeform: and dun intend to touch the remainder .

asciilifeform: i ate http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-05#1893054 cover to cover, but read maybe 4 ch of barnes. ☝︎

asciilifeform: that whole chunk of the lang that one is simply better off ignoring

asciilifeform: i'd even say that 80+% of the thing consists of rakes, by mass

asciilifeform: ( and the standard docs, but go an' try to learn lang from those )

asciilifeform: diana_coman: it's a pretty dubious b00k. problem is, i dun have anyffin to recommend to engl. readers other than it

asciilifeform: pretty sure i didn't dream it tho.

asciilifeform: hrm, dun seem to be in the log.

asciilifeform: !#s landau

asciilifeform: diana_coman: lol, didnt mircea_popescu once mention that he did landau & fr in 1 shot

asciilifeform: *distant

asciilifeform: the barnes b00k is a veeerry distand 2nd

asciilifeform: imho ~still~ the a++ best intro text.

asciilifeform: ( there's a built-in pun in the title, Адское ~= 'from hell' )

asciilifeform recalls in '16 reading slowly in hammock https://www.ada-ru.org/V-0.4w/index.html ☟︎☟︎

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: iirc Mocky actually captured all of the old ada threads in his review

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu already teaches meat kindergarten, i dun expect he'd want moar for anyffin

asciilifeform: lol i've been trying ~not~ to collect moar http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-04#1892390 fodder, will have to shelve for laters. ☝︎

asciilifeform: oh hm interesting, ancient diana_coman www

asciilifeform: aa so apparently pre-dates.

asciilifeform: iirc was init eulora player

asciilifeform: i dun actually know the orig story of diana_coman

asciilifeform: i do wonder what diana_coman was like as a noob tho

asciilifeform: 'if diana_coman were noob'

asciilifeform: lol 'if grandmother had balls'(tm)(r)

asciilifeform: i.e. 'adult' prog lang, with functions, variables, loops (with capped # of max ticks) etc.

asciilifeform: it's where 'peh'.

asciilifeform: ftr ch17 is mostly written, btw.

asciilifeform: 1000 pounds'a shit in 10 pound bag.

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i'ma get to it at some pt. currently hands full with 1) ffa 16b & 17 2) looking into to whom we gotta http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-03#1892227 3) speccing components for 2nd rk plant ☝︎

asciilifeform: iirc g_l & his leg etc

asciilifeform: ( only to then contract 'phantom' )

asciilifeform: is this how folx end up lopping off own limbs etc ?

asciilifeform: dose 'scratches' neh

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: hence prikoke

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: how does that scratch the itch of life tho. if 'want to get along', why not eat pistol sooner rather than later

asciilifeform: wat do they ~do~ when wake up ? drag to the slop bucket like prikoke ?

asciilifeform: what i never had ~any~ grasp on is the folx without ~any~ compass.

asciilifeform: even prior to republic, asciilifeform had a rudimentary compass, where 'comp would be a nifty item if it actually worked, nao where are there any people with half a brain who might care to see it fix'

asciilifeform suspects that his mental model of heathen is actually ~deteriorating~ with time

asciilifeform: still puzzled re why reappeared if never bothered to read log.

asciilifeform: evidently nope.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i read through his www, when he reappeared, and assumed that showed up on acct of having eaten log and having clue.

asciilifeform: lol

asciilifeform: ohai phf

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: recall, i actually thought it was avoidable somehow

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not only , but took 3+y of republic to wake up to that particular job needin' doin

asciilifeform: can say 'republic' but it's just a string to'em

asciilifeform: how does one go about mention without an agreed prior ?

asciilifeform: seems like mircea_popescu's method beats the 'soft' 1 tho -- better that heathen shits himself outside of the gate than in

asciilifeform: or eaten by sea serpent or what.

asciilifeform: also tru. i have nfi for instance re whether e.g. Framedragger , halted

asciilifeform: tru

asciilifeform: i'ma stick to 2 unless somebody suggests a viable 3.

asciilifeform: #2 beats 1, at least economizes log space.

asciilifeform: not for so long as we dun need the new spleen cells for anyffin.

asciilifeform previously tried in the style of http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-05#1892794 , but heathen's transformer windings tend to saturate and 'wtf, didja escape from nuthouse' and convo dun move no moar after that. ☝︎

asciilifeform: funnily enuff , the verisimilitude fella's parting words were approx 'but wtf IS tmsr, can you give me gist at least!'

asciilifeform: who wants ~that~ success, can go across the street and buy by the bucketload

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: verily, if you try an' bake an item that 'fits in ALL heads', end up with marx, christianity, etc

asciilifeform: lobbes_field: neato

asciilifeform: ?

asciilifeform: hm lobbes_field didntcha rate the field nick earlier ? ougtha work on own steam >

asciilifeform: by the megabyte, even..

asciilifeform: was mostly comments tho, at least man knew how to write comments !111

asciilifeform: btw at one pt i tried to read the pile of strange gabriel_laddel left in his smoking crater. was not able to make sense.

asciilifeform believes !

asciilifeform: i suppose they left dissectable corpses

asciilifeform: what did e.g. adlai leave

asciilifeform: they did ??

asciilifeform: iirc all of mine died, like that chinese silkworm on moon.

asciilifeform: asciilifeform's score is ~0 to date tho.

asciilifeform: defo counts

asciilifeform: happens, when you work on spleens for 20y.