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mircea_popescu: to be honest, back when the fucktards were like "o hi guise, i am 12 and expert, never heard of wot but i made this keybase", i was all pissy because of the whole "i have never heard". now that they do the "oh i know tmsr is my true and proper sovereign, but might i not talk my way out of it ? i'm really clever like, plus i use words i can't define borrowed from an old copy of wikimedica" i'm pissy because of the whole clever
BingoBoingo: I mean decentralized gribdeedbot to handle ratings on decentralized mecanical turk all to be held together by what? Hard forks?
mircea_popescu: there is that.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> ima go to the doctor and he's going to feel my abdomen and then say "hmm... i can feel a petrified being sick of ustards right here next to the spleen" << Still less of a disease state than being a USTard. At least you KNOW when you are sick, even if it is bubbles.
mircea_popescu: ima go to the doctor and he's going to feel my abdomen and then say "hmm... i can feel a petrified being sick of ustards right here next to the spleen"
shinohai: Appears to be android app to "decentralize" Mechanical Turk
mircea_popescu: yet the difference between us, whereby when he asks for a difference i provide the difference, but when i ask for a difference he has nothing to show, is entirely lost on him. and this DOESNT suggest to him that perhaps he's not yet up to the task of comprehending such intricacies as might not be obvious even to thinking folks.
asciilifeform: and wtf is taskwhatever
asciilifeform: it was not immediately obvious to asciilifeform , for instance, at one time
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: on other hand, the fact that a wot is a local object ( and doesn't 'decentralize' ) is not necessarily obvious, even to thinking folx
mircea_popescu: "tasklead" for "shithive" and whatnot. such a wunderbarl world little girls have tea with sam in!
mircea_popescu: and he has had the bright idea to... fix, geddit.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what irritates the fucktard is that somehow, agaionst all pantsuit effort and promise, somehow in this world there still are men!
sn0wmonster: now that i know it's not but for a single technical difference that i was already planning on fixing before coming here, i'm left with only your narcissistic rants and runarounds.
mircea_popescu: sn0wmonster what is the difference between "stumbled" and "invited here with the false idea that the WoT here was any different than the one i've already used for 7 years" iyo ?
mircea_popescu: and the sad thing is, the more time flies, the more the fruit flies will be flying in.
sn0wmonster: no one 'stumbled', i was invited here with the false idea that the WoT here was any different than the one i've already used for 7 years.
sn0wmonster: another narcissistic trait, assuming things.
mircea_popescu: sn0wmonster the moment you stumble into a technical discussion with "proposals" on the level of "hey guise i just heard about this cryptormation superhighway, here's how to fix it", YOU made the discussion about you.
asciilifeform: sn0wmonster: trinque's wotron ( which is in use here ) gives you a complete copy of the wot on demand. how would you make this 'more decentralized' ?
mircea_popescu: but in practice, there are.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the difference between brains and practices is that in theory there are no brains.
asciilifeform: theoretically, if d00d has a brain, it could be explained to'im
sn0wmonster: do you always do this? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: yes, there's an actrual technical reason. no, it can't be explained to you. because you lack priors. ☟︎
sn0wmonster: i like how you made this about you. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: you actually believe i needed you to mosy along and say the magic words "decendralized feteraded buzz buzz buzz". you actually believe this. how ?
sn0wmonster: is there a technical reason why it hasn't been built yet?
sn0wmonster: you'll have to do a bit better than narcissistic ravings
mircea_popescu: sn0wmonster you're not here to learn. you're here to try and bludgeon the world into a shape your head may fit. this is the opposite of learning. learning is when you change. ☟︎
shinohai: Cheers mod6, and thanks for advice yesterday .... seemed most straightforward route since box still booted.
mircea_popescu: this is exactly what d-k is all about. think for a second : years ago when i specced this, i could just as well ahve specced it that way. what, you think the-people-who-matter need you to come by ten years late and show them the wheel ?
sn0wmonster: i'm here to learn, could you share the reason for that?
sn0wmonster: if not, i don't see how i'm reinventing the wheel by building that part of it.
mircea_popescu: no. and there is a reason for that.
sn0wmonster: mircea_popescu, are there any decentralized web-of-trusts that allow GPG authenticated ratings and comments to be left for GPG authenticated users without needing to connect to IRC or a centralized website to interact with it?
mod6: <+shinohai> trb node should be back up soon, motherboard still boots up, replaced nic with external model. << good deal :]
mircea_popescu: it is NOT, very specifically and poinedly not, coming up with a "catchy" socialistard name and then trying to build "ideas" around it.
mircea_popescu: sn0wmonster supposing you're actually serious about not reinventing the wheel (which at this point i very much doubt), the correct approach is to first establish ~yourself~, and then have your own castle like so many others before you.
asciilifeform: ( alternatively -- yank the nic and put in the serial port card, they're a few bux secondhand )
asciilifeform: shinohai: if you get one with a nic, make sure to segment it away from anything interesting
shinohai: How goes this morning Sr. Popescu?
shinohai: Now to locate superior ups
sn0wmonster: because that would have saved us the time of reinventing the wheel
mircea_popescu: not really the tmsr way.
sn0wmonster: i was hoping to hear that it was decentralized, as in, nodes connect together to disperse and allow submissions to the reputation database without needing IRC or the website
sn0wmonster: is that the only difference?
mircea_popescu: nanotube was going to fix it cca 2015. didn't happen then or hence.
sn0wmonster: i've been trying to find the perfect WoT system to include into #Taskhive for a while now and i was under the impression that#bitcoin-otc simply decentralized would suffice,
sn0wmonster: in what ways (please name as many as possible) is deedbot patently different than #bitcoin-otc's gribble in terms of GPG/user ratings?
sn0wmonster: here for the deedbot
asciilifeform: ACROSS THE STATE OF TEXAS AND BEYOND'
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/4B573F584F8FD284E16465CA83F08D274E8EEB1B7743BFB659587F3ACBE46415 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1448...8323 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '63.97.43.239 (ssh-rsa key from 63.97.43.239 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (63-97-43-239-ama.pathwayz.com. US TX)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/4B573F584F8FD284E16465CA83F08D274E8EEB1B7743BFB659587F3ACBE46415 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1603...9679 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '63.97.43.239 (ssh-rsa key from 63.97.43.239 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (63-97-43-239-ama.pathwayz.com. US TX)
erlehmann: also it does not include test results in the epigraph tree-builder
erlehmann: i suspect this method of taint analysis can be useful for more than just the question “who is at risk when a condom broke?”
BingoBoingo: Aha, easier to pretend they didn't want the dollars they don't have in the first place
mircea_popescu: cuz they can't afford the "pro dommes"
BingoBoingo: It's actually a rather popular subscription service among oldsters who think they are millenials, "dollar shame club". Even has radio advertising jingles.
BingoBoingo: Awe, I guess the dollarshaming will have to wait
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/6B5B77FD7E335875B265600B307D7DC3C92D7D73C043F86719F899A9CD943323 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1736...3599 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '92.243.9.0 (ssh-rsa key from 92.243.9.0 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (xvm-9-0.ghst.net. FR)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/6B5B77FD7E335875B265600B307D7DC3C92D7D73C043F86719F899A9CD943323 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1647...8617 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '92.243.9.0 (ssh-rsa key from 92.243.9.0 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (xvm-9-0.ghst.net. FR)
mod6: thanks trinque
trinque: ty to ben_vulpes and mod6 for pinging me about deedbot
asciilifeform: toilet water flowing through the drinklet
a111: DRINKING WATER FLOWING THROUGH THE TOILET
mircea_popescu: lol is it bot tapping season ?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-19#1672334 << when asciilifeform thinks 'flyover usa' he thinks specifically of these 'beauties' ☝︎
asciilifeform: ( these affect everything ~but~ the comps , which are on isolated mains )
shinohai actually likes storms, besides the circuitry frying parts ,,,,
shinohai: Another storm headed my way folx, so if I vanish for another 48 hrs, thanks comcast!
phf: and so castles made of sand, melts into the sea eventually
phf: mircea_popescu: so the server i was connected to rebooted (or something like that), and then i was sitting on reconnect for a bit, until i explicitly changed it to a different server. what was it doing?
mircea_popescu: riverboats don't, though
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: do all small boats have that weird triangular bed thing ??
asciilifeform: for some reason i thought his current thing were bigger..
asciilifeform: i saw a tub of similar size, in the port, named 'ctrl-alt-del'
mircea_popescu: it's vaguely annoying any rando can name his tub "prince kropotkin"
asciilifeform: https://archive.is/P7Xx3 << for approx 1 toyota's worth
asciilifeform: in other lulz, orlol is selling his tub : http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2017/06/prince-kropotkin-is-for-sale.html
shinohai: "On Fedora and CentOS, this ld.so "hwcap" exploit fails against
phf: https://parity.io/parity.html i'm not sure what this is even supposed to be, but my dosimeter went off scale.
asciilifeform: just to be narrowly specific to 'certainly exists, not yet leaked to public'
asciilifeform: let's say, e.g., the privkeys of 'keybase' idiots
mircea_popescu: only shit that exists can leak!
asciilifeform: nao if only shit somebody actually wanted, were to leak...
mircea_popescu: cluj is a city on the hill, going to colege there implies (or did at the time) 2 miles / day walked uphill... ah what times.
mircea_popescu: ah that huh.
asciilifeform: hence the popularity of '16'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in usa, the gurlz are typically fully-hatched zombies by 25
mircea_popescu skipped the whole fucking 16yos thing almost entirely. went from not giving shit about girls at 12 to doing 20somethings by 16.
a111: Logged on 2015-04-23 12:23 ascii_panama: some nonzero portion of socialistoidderp is 'revenge' of low-smv folks against the high. dan mocsny observed this and it is a hypothesis with some explanatory power.
mircea_popescu: i dunno. who actually wants to fuck 16yos.
asciilifeform: ( what is every 'statutory rape' prosecution even about, to begin with, do you think. )
mircea_popescu: and the crime was, "having it way better than the judge / lawyers involved" ?
asciilifeform: emphasis on past tense
mircea_popescu: check it out, dood had harem in the us!
hanbot: asciilifeform that town's name is...unfortunate
asciilifeform: childrenz belong to the great inca, didjaknow, how dare d00d sell'em, etc
mircea_popescu: people love to think their dumb shit is their own, yet a kid who's never been touched will "by itself" behave exactly the same way as an adult all the time no exceptions.