asciilifeform: funkenstein_: comfortable when empty but for you.
asciilifeform: because it is (part of the time) in motion.
asciilifeform: realize also that a car takes up, integrated over a typical day, vastly more volume than the wheeled coffin per se occupies
asciilifeform: in nyc they even have little cranes (yes) which stuff cars into shelves, robotically
asciilifeform: mats: it is interesting to walk through 'financial' parts of d.c., or nyc, and notice that the offices full of folks too high and mighty to sit on a train, are largely multiple floor after floor of underground and above-ground tower parking, by sheer volume.
asciilifeform: mats: mcfood is not even the end of this line. theodore dalrymple tells us that the standard 'chavv class' brit's dinner is a bag of chips.
asciilifeform: so long as you don't need to exist for more than a decade or three
asciilifeform: (at that point, why drive'em in ? so they can sit on endless parking lot going to the horizon ?)
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-09-2015#1260453 << the nuance here is that the city as we know it is fundamentally a creation of mass transport. as in, you would have to demolish almost all of new york or london to park cars, if everyone were to come by car.☝︎
asciilifeform: whereas it is not uncommon to pay 50-80% of income for the roof over head.
asciilifeform: the way it works is that everyone eats the things they were raised to see as ordinary, and at each particular class, those appear cheap.
asciilifeform: it is very uncommon to even think about what food costs here.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in usa folks are gouged for rent, not for food.☟︎
asciilifeform: about ten minutes' wage of an illegal mexican.
asciilifeform: mats: here i am discussing foods that one buys and then at least heats. not even touching upon the mcdrivethrough sort, which ~is~ an optional thing
asciilifeform: (with a third, hastily wired in like an iraqi ad hoc mine, 'grow own')
asciilifeform: there are ~precisely two~ buttons on the panel, 'mcfood' and 'hippie'
asciilifeform: only 'we swear these chickens ate neither, and you will believe' shop.
asciilifeform: e.g. there is no 'i don't care if the chicken ate gmo corn but please no antibiotic' shop☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: the other interesting thing is that the market is segmented in such a way that anyone who doesn't want mcfood ends up paying for ~all~ the alt-crackpotteries, not merely the logical ones☟︎☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: mats: if you want non-hormonal meat, non-poisoned veggies, etc. they ~do~ cost 2-7x. plus then you need the time/inclination/space to cook'em.
asciilifeform: trinque: at any rate, i regard the idea of being hired to do something specific, worse, involving other people's code, to resemble jail
asciilifeform: trinque: presently i am paid to work on one of the least interesting ideas i ever had. and this beats working with the most interesting idea other people ever had, in my demented head.
asciilifeform: <mircea_popescu> and it's EXACTLY like, junkies COULD do something else with their time << what, exactly? theorems ?
asciilifeform: <mircea_popescu> so instead of steel bars limiting access to subway to only people that can fit through << EXACTLY like that thing they have at airports, for briefcases 1!!1
asciilifeform: (iirc 'v' even, surprised a few people)
asciilifeform: thought can legitimately surprise when sense replaces nonsense, rather than vice-versa
asciilifeform: <mircea_popescu> if you also know, the same way, why do you want it ? if you do not, why do you aim to be involved in this ? << that's the magic moment where engineer typically understands (or worse, does not) that the standard is a hierarchical imposition, rather than an act of education like teaching a child to add and substract
asciilifeform: but there are such things as double-entry bookkeeping, etc. which are reasonably traditional
asciilifeform: the phrase is a nonsensical americanism, aha
asciilifeform: ag3nt_zer0: it is sop, and i know a fella personally who went into and then, a few years later, quit teaching school, for reasons not entirely unlike what was described in your link.
asciilifeform: but yes, from what i can tell, it was not a straight clone
