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asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: tru
mod6: i don't seem to have problems with that either.... at least, i have't had it yet.
mircea_popescu: anyway, a word re the "new chump tax drives off the lot loses 10k value" thing : it loses 10k of RESALE value. it does not lose 10k of value, ie, your new car still won't need new shocks just because you drove it off lot.
asciilifeform: it was enough to establish that asciilifeform is completely immune to sea sickness, for instance.
mod6: well, i think that it's fun for a day; imagine going port to port for weeks on end. i think it'd get tiring. maybe i'm wrong. *shrug*
mod6: whats the longest boat trip you've ever taken?
asciilifeform: probably quite enough at this point to have bought an orlolboat for some cackling 'bay aryan'
asciilifeform: for instance, almost 100% of the btc i ever tx'ed out, was on the dumb alphago bet
asciilifeform treats btc as something like the fabled 'write-only memory'
mircea_popescu: better than selling micromorts.
asciilifeform: lol that'd require selling bitcoin!111
mircea_popescu: yes, from a pass/fail perspective brake pad is either broken or isn't. but natura not facit saltus, it gets there through a continuous process. there's no discrete processes above atomic scale.
BingoBoingo: If that's the case buy a motorcycle
asciilifeform: but if asciilifeform ever ~were~ to buy boat, or plane, it ~would~ be a used one, and will pay for it not only in reichsmarks but millimorts, because new is simply not on the table -- a new, e.g., sailboat thing, may as well be a starship
mircea_popescu: the problem with brake pads is that under the heat and shear stress they microcrystallize. this makes them much less useless for their intended purpose, which is abrasion, and for which they'd better stay amorphous. the problem with fiberglass is that under mechanical stress they separate, which then creates fissures and which then is the end.
BingoBoingo: Like a very hard to change tire
asciilifeform: at any rate, and ought to satisfy mircea_popescu , i dun buy machines i have nfi how to drive, i did not buy airplane either.
mircea_popescu: this is not entirely true. it's either new or ground.
asciilifeform: per my current (nonexpert) conception, it's a fiberglass shell, that is either broken or whole
mircea_popescu: we already had this thread last week, but you got it like duck gets wet. the boat hull IS a moving part, and it is moving in such a way to make plastic ~useless.
mircea_popescu: and, to a much larger degree in the car than in the fan. and to a larger still in the boat than in the car.
asciilifeform: would mircea_popescu describe the chassis of boat as 'moving part' ?
mircea_popescu: the relevant part in the fan is the movement, not the intimacy.
mircea_popescu: yes but circumstances of two kinds overlap to dazzle and confuse your eye.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: my toothbrush ain't 2ndhand either!11
asciilifeform: tru!! if i needed 10,000,001 -- would be stuck paying the chumptax
mircea_popescu: there's ~no mechanical moving parts in computer, and guess what -- the few that are, you DO buy new.
asciilifeform: was thinking of transformers and other smaller items. ~100% of my comps is made of 2ndhand parts, for instance.
mircea_popescu: of couse your brotyher isn't going to stick you with a lemon.
mircea_popescu: so then wtf are you talking about.
asciilifeform: but i've had the same (inherited) auto for eons.
mircea_popescu: i swear the loony reservation is doing things to your head. you ended up baking in us "consumer protection" laws at some level.
asciilifeform: ah these no
asciilifeform: was even a thread here.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform do you buy it over the internet, too ?
asciilifeform: plain and simple. ( it drives off the dealer lot, suddenly loses 10k in value, lol )
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform sure. when you buy a used electric transformer, i'll keep my peace.
asciilifeform: newness is a chump tax.
mod6: asciilifeform: you'd be better of renting a boat if you just wanna have some fun. if you want escape-hatch, then you escape, buy boat later at where ever with translator et al.
asciilifeform: electric transformers, for instance
asciilifeform: incidentally 'industrial process offers a guarantee of sameness and conformity', 'natural decay DOES NOT' is not wholly given : there exists such a thing as turdalicious production processes, and -- on opposite end -- the 'bathtub curve' of winnowing
mircea_popescu can buy used cars. CARS. because i bought and own hundreds. i can't buy fucking used boats, and i doubt you can (or would, or do for that matter) buy used cars. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: a used item can be worth anything through mt_rand(0, new)
asciilifeform: i'll be sure to buy new b0at in china as soon as i learn chinese, get into cpcn wot, and obtain teleporter.
mircea_popescu: all items coming off the factory line are worth ~same within a few percents, AND the whole fucking world is out there trying to figure out FOR YOU, on their own dime, what that SAME is.
mircea_popescu: you understand this ? industrial process offers a guarantee of sameness and conformity, such as it is. natural decay DOES NOT.
mircea_popescu: so don't buy it new in the us, buy it new in china.
asciilifeform: asciilifeform barely ever buys 'new' anythings. 'newness' is a chump tax.
a111: Logged on 2017-06-20 14:45 sn0wmonster: do you always do this?
mircea_popescu: the schmuck above, http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-20#1672451 like so many equal schmucks before him, thought "read logs and get into tmsr ? THAT MEANS NEVER!!!! LOG TOO LONG!!!" etc. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: it is a stupid thing to do. i don't care what you think "means never" means.
asciilifeform: [insert mircea_popescu boat thread here!111]
mircea_popescu: how the fuck will you evaluate anything about it ?
asciilifeform: if the 'replaced and renovated everything!111' is in fact tru
mod6: the ocean is a desert. i don't think i could do that for extended time.
asciilifeform considered buying the orloltron
mod6: mornin tmsr~
mircea_popescu: (yet another of ex ro president traian basescu's harem was finally "found" by teh ro tards. this one is an actual general no less, and organised more parties / ows-likes than ~anyone in the us).
mircea_popescu: send them home, it's all fruhstuck't.
shinohai now wonders what to do with these naked girls in the kitchen ....
mircea_popescu: shinohai precesion, yo. by now solstice moved to late 20th evening.
mircea_popescu: wasn't that yest ?
shinohai: Happy Solstice/day of there was nothing to say all along Day !
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ty kindly!
mircea_popescu: thereby making june 21st the republican "day of there was nothing to say all along" and a holiday.
a111: Logged on 2017-06-20 16:30 phf: scussions, but also any kind of attempt at crypto communication. there was nothing to say all along.
mircea_popescu: normally this happens "privately" as per usg.freenode's notion of that, but since http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-20#1672501 i figure what the hell, we can have one public day. ☝︎
BingoBoingo: Very trippy new trilema header
deedbot: http://www.contravex.com/2017/06/21/i-know-the-last-train-is-leaving-the-station-but-thats-ok-ill-grab-the-next-one/ << » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski - “I know the last train is leaving the station but that’s ok I’ll grab the next one.”
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/CE3054BE86A5AAAABF50B797F6DA6B65DD77CA4D814A5EF491F50EC6B2D7B284 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1682...2313 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '195.140.251.244 (ssh-rsa key from 195.140.251.244 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (Unknown MZ)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/CE3054BE86A5AAAABF50B797F6DA6B65DD77CA4D814A5EF491F50EC6B2D7B284 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1655...3683 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '195.140.251.244 (ssh-rsa key from 195.140.251.244 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (Unknown MZ)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/3E3B6B6C4504FCCA206505232AD38A553ECE9B407028CA4FC0615706E7587115 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1655...3683 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '87.126.230.17 (ssh-rsa key from 87.126.230.17 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (87-126-230-17.ip.btc-net.bg. BG)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/3E3B6B6C4504FCCA206505232AD38A553ECE9B407028CA4FC0615706E7587115 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1653...0623 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '87.126.230.17 (ssh-rsa key from 87.126.230.17 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (87-126-230-17.ip.btc-net.bg. BG)
mircea_popescu: can you tell by some pixels ?
mircea_popescu: she could show him her tits anonymously while carefully hiding her face. they'd both get more sex and sex alikes mileage out of the arrangement.
mircea_popescu: no, they stuck with reddit.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there's this big bin of folx who ain't gotta look good to anybody, in particular.
mircea_popescu: are you proposing that pair of yetis actually look good to someone ?
erlehmann: “make the call”?
asciilifeform: castes -- exist. and i can even see the argument, that one oughta be able to make the call from 10 metres, rather than burn away 10minutes of yer life listening to a wikipedian
mircea_popescu: by that point need a better caste holy shit.
mircea_popescu: or is that thing a camel.
a111: Logged on 2015-11-06 22:33 ascii_field: 'Follow Bhagwan Chowdhry on Twitter'
a111: Logged on 2017-06-20 20:27 phf: hanno bock is a stand in for "security community", sort of like preet bharara is a standing for american aparatchiks. they even look the parts!
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-20#1672706 << they do. and not forget, http://btcbase.org/log/2015-11-06#1318952 as a stand-in for shit-academia. though i suppose obama would work just as well, "constitutional law scholar". read motherfucking constitution of ghana. ☝︎☝︎
asciilifeform: and their buffering -- is shit
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-20#1672705 << this collapse is scam, i want my money back. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: so in the same sense kentucky fried chicken isn't "something that is happening" nor "something you could be part of", neither is "african american" or white, or wmaf or w/e the shit already.
trinque: curious bot behavior lately. the thing has to be receiving pongs from something, or it'd close and restart.
a111: Logged on 2017-06-20 18:54 phf: (thinking some more i only had one clarification, second one relating to action/thought i don't think i have a good grasp on...)
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-20#1672689 << the other major problem with "race" as a wholly-devoid-of-meaning anglotard subcultural construct is that... well... it's a brand, see. licenseable, negotiable like any other "negotiable instrument" ie paper money. there's no substantial difference between "Black & Decker power tools hecho en Mexico" and "African with tribal tatoo made in Chicago" and finally http://trilema.com/201 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform for as long as there's slop trickle in stable, pig won't find truffles in forest.
asciilifeform: whole orchestra plays, solely so that $schmuck knows exactly, who, where to 'ask'
mircea_popescu: shit im not there yet. SPOILERS!
asciilifeform: sorta why there even exists a twatter, or a bock
a111: Logged on 2017-06-20 19:36 erlehmann: > I read the Baseline Requirements document (version 1.4.5, section 4.9.1.1), but I wasn't entirely sure whether this is considered a key compromise. I asked Hanno Bock on Twitter
mircea_popescu delights at that complex joek.
mircea_popescu: amusingly, 1970s parents even had internalised this whole thing into daily speech. "don't make me come over there!"
asciilifeform: *argue that
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i've never seen anyone (other than fly going splat) in earnest that it was accident.