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asciilifeform: but keep in mind mod6 et al that where before you had package ALU is new FFA(Width => Width, Word => OS.Machine_Word); you will now have, e.g., package ALU is new FFA(Word => OS.Machine_Word);
asciilifeform: likewise 'bitness' of an FZ refers solely to the number of bits available in it, and does NOT and never will depend on their ~contents~ ( unlike non-fixed bignumatrons )
asciilifeform: ( you physically cannot have karatsuba or anything of the kind if you cannot make FZs of several sizes. however the F remains, it is still impermissible to involve FZs of variant bitnesses in any arithmetical operation when invoking . )
asciilifeform: mod6: if you want to test, keep in mind that you gotta Foo : FZ(Bits) ; now, rather than Foo : FZ;
asciilifeform: also it is almost certainly possible to have less copying in there.
asciilifeform: ^ veeeery prelim. version, i still gotta prove that it worx always and forever.
asciilifeform: >>>>> http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/Zy27g/?raw=true <<<<< ( CAUTION, mod6 , phf , et al ! the invocation syntax has changed !! )
asciilifeform: i'ma about to post, momentarily,
asciilifeform: phf: aactually thing got ~shorter~
asciilifeform: and, unrelatedly, karatsuba parallelizes (into 3 forks) without any substantial effort, so can also speed up whatever the bare bone speed ends up being, 3x
asciilifeform: because at present the base case of the recursion is L=1 , and probably ought to be 4, or even 8 machinewords;
a111: Logged on 2017-05-19 17:22 asciilifeform: in other news, a 4096-bit A**B takes approx 14 seconds (3GHz) .
a111: Logged on 2017-06-18 23:30 asciilifeform: and realized, while doing this, that in fact you don't need 2k+2 bits for the karatsuba intermediates, you can do instead of (x0+x1)*(y0+y1) , (x0-x1)*(y0-y1), and then you don't need to propagate carries, but only take absolutevalue and xor the borrows to see if gotta invert the resulting term
asciilifeform: ACHTUNG, PANZERS! preliminary result of http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-18#1672101 is that http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-19#1659220 nao takes <3 sec. which can still be improved further, ☝︎☝︎
mircea_popescu: it's even better that nobody (tm) is even bothered by this, exactly like they weren't in teh self-same soviet union.
mircea_popescu: phf incidentally, it's a great thing the free world (tm) defeated the soviet union where people couldn't be published for writing things outside of the yemu sam's letters.
mircea_popescu: but you can't sell your vampire story unless everyone in it is very twinky.
phf: i don't think you could get published in america if you were to imply that gayness is biologically viral in nature
BingoBoingo: Of course it must have. I thought that's what the 1980's in "activism" was about. Vampire disease
mircea_popescu: did it still make them gay ?
phf: there was a young adult novel about vampires, and i can't remember the title or the author, but it was written by a virologist, had all kinds of trivia about this sort of viral parasites (obviously vampirism was explored from that angle too)
BingoBoingo: Oh the desperate wishing in anti-reality land https://archive.is/j5kN6
asciilifeform: iirc is supposed to make victim somewhat less cautious in general
mircea_popescu: you think it makes old women herd cats ?
asciilifeform: toxoplasmosis comes to mind also
mircea_popescu: a lot more work to change behaviour ~in all mammals!~ than it is to aflict one narrowly defined sort of ant.
mircea_popescu: however, rabies is a much better example : the virus specifically accumulates in the salivary glands, for the ~purpose~ of being transmitted through bites, and shuts down the deglutition behaviour.
mircea_popescu: incidentally, people get all excited re the fungi that grow out of ant's heads and change the ant's behaviour etc.
mircea_popescu: yemu sam tsar-batyushka huh.
mircea_popescu: though the last word from harvard trained Psychologists (!!!) is psychopath, i hear.
mircea_popescu: kinda how folk-whatever goes. "he had the devil in him" ie liked to touch girls between the legs and drank.
phf: there's though a comedic dimension to the word, by 19th century you had a stereotype of bumbling deacon, the kind of person who would blame "daemons" on personal insignificant follies
mircea_popescu: makes for much better demonography than the southerners had at any rate.
mircea_popescu: (both because today's culture is mostly interhuman masturbation and because it has mostly lost the ability to reflect reality.)
mircea_popescu: yeah. at the time and in those parts, wolves were a much more serious problem, and correspondingly a much larger part of culture than seen today
phf: yeah, бешентсво, that is rabies, is derived from bes
mircea_popescu: of course, they don't really have rabies in galilea, but wut-eevars!
mircea_popescu: afaik the slavic notion of the devil is muchly indebted to a) the observation of lyssaviri in action and b) the passage about jesus and the herd of pigs. so they mostly understood demons as rabies agents.
phf: goes back to slavic mythology, but i don't know what bes is there. in old slavonic bibles it was used to translate the word "demon"
phf: apparently from greek pithakos (monkey) through latin foedus (ugly)
asciilifeform: more like the kind you exorcise
mircea_popescu: kinda the whole story of socialism, as it happens. what the pantsuits are doing is === voluntary apnea, and what happens to them is always "well, you ran out of money, so back to capitalism whore!"
mircea_popescu: "voluntary apnea works out until the brain shuts down from lack of oxygen and the stem restarts breathing reflexively" ?
phf: which doesn't have a good direct translation. "they will soon stop throwing a tantrum" but the verb is from bes, i.e. old russian word for demon, so kind of like "they will run out of the idiotic and chaotic energy, and will eventually calm down"
mircea_popescu: no eternal vocation to socialism.
mircea_popescu: kinda why buying the ourdemocracy pantsuit lolboat is such a ridiculous deal. the only thing you know for sure about it is that, "wait a few years, they won't like it anymore".
phf: funny how that goes
mircea_popescu: and so the poor kid has allergy to clothes and the black kid to learnin and the injun to sitting still.
mircea_popescu: the "uncles" ie uppity aunts don't like it anymore these days, though. too much nigger in it, not to mention a very strong vein of "things are as they are not only because that's how they are but also because that's how tyhey should be".
phf: oh that i don't know, i was 10, so i intentionally avoided learning what the point was, i just had an uneasy sense that it was there
mircea_popescu: phf really ? i utterly missed that out. i think to this day. what was the point ?
mircea_popescu: to this day my idea of "who can be bothered to read "other americas" or "trainspotting" or you know, watch coffy fightin' crime for the black "homeland" is, 11 yo boy.
phf: i liked twain, but he was also a touch wholesome. like an older uncle, telling you a yarn, that has a Point to it that you're expected to notice, because the uncle grins every time the point comes up
mircea_popescu: then i discovered romania actually had a niche equivalent of the us pulp, spinrad & all, so i moved on to that.
mircea_popescu: i preferred twain, but the problem is twain wrote enough for a coupla weeks, verne for a coupla months. every day as a 10yo i'd come home from school, stop at library, buy another jv book an' go read it.
phf: i have to be honest, i barely read jules verne. i think it's just an incompatible temperament issue, i preferred my romantics to be a bit darker.
mircea_popescu: "bring back that time when ''your job is to watch tv'' actually WORKED."
mircea_popescu rather suspects that actually star trek figures principally as the G in that MAGA. it really was the best of times, that worst of times, for all those involved.
mircea_popescu: lt commander pass the popcorn or what was it.
mircea_popescu: afaik it was all about that big screen and the various people gathered around in that livingroom to watch it.
asciilifeform: i thought star dreck was mostly about fucking peculiarly humanoid alien chix
mircea_popescu: phf except the soviet writer jules verne later wrote star trek, "how great would it be to sit on your couch watching tv on which they show you some dorks sitting on couch watching tv"
phf: asciilifeform grew up on russian romantic literature (like the soviet writer jules verne), yearns to live on Nautilus
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform show me pics with naked chix sunbathing on this submarine deck.
asciilifeform: shinohai: ' It can handle chat, audio and video calling, photo/video/file sharing, voice conferences, etc.' << lol! over bitcoin tx?!
mircea_popescu: rules to fucking live by, you know, "by the time you feel like you wanna live in a submarine, it's time to gtfo and find a better place." ☟︎
asciilifeform: shinohai: that dun sound like gossipd, sounds moar like http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1490
mod6: i dunno, if you feel like you wanna live in a submarine, then perhaps its time to gtfo and find a better place.
mircea_popescu: you ever been on a sub top deck ?
asciilifeform: just one with a topdeck, like (afaik) all of'em
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what, you are going to have a CONVERTIBLE sub ?
asciilifeform: ( where the 3mo limit is imposed by the practical load of food, and little else )
asciilifeform: you're thinking of today's atomic monsters, mod6
mod6: i feel like that was once every 3 months though. haha.
asciilifeform: ( ww2 sub folx -- certainly did, witness the group photos )
asciilifeform: nothing keeps the mariner from hanging out on the deck when weather is fine, neh
mircea_popescu: i dunno man, there's many kinds of people and i dun expect to understand all, but going by observation to date the only reason people even put up (for brief intervals) with the many and significant inconveniences of navigation is access to the sun and the wind and so on.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: funnily enough, i have that part ( if little else ) solved.
asciilifeform: https://archive.hnsa.org/ships/img/kaiten.jpg << probably the sub mircea_popescu was thinking of !111
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i dunno you'll be able to find anyone willing to indulge, so in theory not but in practice likely.
mircea_popescu: they give those out for free, you know, even in your jurisdiction.
asciilifeform: lol dun have to be solitary, does it
asciilifeform: while we're on subj of storms at sea -- i admit to having wondered why orlol isn't designing a small sub ( it doesn't need to have gigantic pressure hull, or even ~any maneuvering ability while under -- but only to ride out storms by submerging). afaik it dun get any moar storm-proof than a sub.
asciilifeform: ( or petrol, for that matter )
asciilifeform: i dun think an orloltron carries 12 wks of food/water
mircea_popescu: mostly hits people like fishing boat crews, which is why they never take more than X% noobs no matter what.
mircea_popescu: sort of migraine-like, seen in the 6th to 12th week.
mod6: heheh. i can see it though, mircea_popescu
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what's the 'late' ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform mind that there's two sea sicknesses, also, early and late. though the late is rare.
mircea_popescu: except, well trained slavegirl has opposite effect.
mircea_popescu: nudity is a start, but it's just... people have a bubble, it depends on many things and i suppose is of various types. if you pack them tighter than their bubble is they'll get increasingly pissier.
mircea_popescu: possibly only thing in nature that actually occupies negative space.
mircea_popescu: mod6 it helps immensely if you only take slavegirls along.
asciilifeform: it is hard enough to buy massless, teleportable btc, even
asciilifeform: getting to where you can buy outside of the reservation is also not phree
mircea_popescu: but the insanity of one group does not affect the bedrock of reality any.
mircea_popescu: which is why i said don't buy it in the us, cuz yes those people are SO into papers and empty signifiying by now that it's a legitimate problem.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: my observation was the the 'warranty' of new item is a very, very expensive thing
mircea_popescu: "you marry a girl, it loses 10k whoring value right there" is rank nonsense.