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mircea_popescu: nfi what anglo terminology is, but -- obviously all bijective functions are reversible ; however there's TWO ways in which to not be bijective.
mircea_popescu: F(A)->B : bijective : each A has one and exactly one B correspondent. injective : each A has one value ; surjective if each B is corresponded.
mircea_popescu: entirely possibly ; wouldn't even be the first time, at that.
mircea_popescu: it does ~seem~ to be weaker than my own intel indicates, but fuck that spot.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: anyway, no, i'm not married to serpent. i don't even fucking like it that much. i even said so!
mircea_popescu: comes up in eg expert oncologist training lots more than anyone'd like.
mircea_popescu: hey, "why didn't you see the goat" is in the end a boundless question, "i just fucking didn't. i don';t know why, obviously it's there, but i did not see it"
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo ty. will proceed forthwith, shall keep you posted.
mircea_popescu: but this aside -- i suspect you also don't work... how shall i put this... everyone's eval-er that keeps them from making coffin liners works on some heuristics. and i suspect your heuristics are out of whack with the insanity that is bitcoin. ie, the important and the unimportant don't get all that clearly separated.
mircea_popescu: but the manager in me wouldn't never buy it, because management goes a certain way, and distrusts a certain way.
mircea_popescu: dimes from 2015 are millions in 2020, this sort of thing.
mircea_popescu: BECAUSE, bitcoin, and ~everything else in the republic this bitcoin is the currency of, ~~~EVERYTHING ELSE~~~~ has a very unlinear time function.
mircea_popescu: here's the one point i am making, overarchingly and i should hope as loudly as humanly possible : ~THERE IS MAJOR BREAKAGE IN THE EVAL FUNCTION~, whereby man looks at 10btc in 2015, thinks "$500" or w/e it was, and then goes "the amt of anti-superficial $500 buys me is one hour, not one day nor one week".
mircea_popescu: so a review of extant candidates is not a self-obvious first step in attempting to sit down for such a competition ?
mircea_popescu: "<mircea_popescu> as much as you have now, could have been had then! for, literally, 1-2 man-days, at teh most. you dispute this ?" "<asciilifeform> mircea_popescu: nope. couldn't" "<mircea_popescu> sooo! what portion of this do you dispute ?" "<asciilifeform> that 'could have then' "
mircea_popescu: as much as you have now, could have been had then! for, literally, 1-2 man-days, at teh most. you dispute this ?
mircea_popescu: yes, but wrong approach to it all! "here's why serpent's no good, here's why i don't like dea-aes etc, here's rabin method, imo best" IS something.
mircea_popescu: and i have like a strong suspicion that nothing else you did hence had the same btc/hour return, either.
mircea_popescu: it's healthy, let alone necessary, to rage in certain circumstances. this here being a fine fucking example -- because i still not for a second believe had you earnestly sat ass down in 2015 you couldn't have earned that 10 coin.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's obvious, we don't even know serpent is in fact no good, hence "you persuasively suggest may not be good (but not actually done the work to turn that suggestive theory in practice)"
mircea_popescu: good thing we have strong entreopy, to run serpent off it.
mircea_popescu: might as well capitalize on Mocky 's experience turn it into a ruby gem, yes ?
mircea_popescu: why is s.mg better off with republican stack than with java stack ? it's still using serpent!
mircea_popescu: it's not even clear what makes us so damned good, atm.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well, maybe your thread. my thread was re "are we fucking idiots ?! we have a foundation that wants to publish statements of the nothing as its only output, we have a bunch of smart people not helping our own industry avoid pitfals, and in this vein forever"
☟︎ mircea_popescu: they can go to a posh afair and show the designs to each other.
mircea_popescu: im not hiring anyone to do it, not anymore. tried and failed.
mircea_popescu: i specificalyl said "time for btmsr cipher competition was 2015 -- it died".
mircea_popescu: yes, im going to use a shittier-than-hoped for cipher, for lack of alternative.
mircea_popescu: it's, as they call in busioness, "a no brainer" -- i ain't doing jack.
mircea_popescu: understand the position here : code (practice) <-> algos (theory). we currently have actual code for an algo that you persuasively suggest may not be good (but not actually done the work to turn that suggestive theory in practice) and suggest replacement algos (but not done work again). my option is to either put in 0 work for 0 result, or else put in x work for 0 result.
mircea_popescu: is the idea more along then lines of "i knew about this all along, just didn't feel about telling you schmucks anything until after you poured cement" ? rather than "i literally could not be arsed to even look at this until someone poured some cement somewhere so i could pester them then" ?
mircea_popescu: the only different element is that today, unlike in 2015 (and not even RIGHT NOW, today as in this year) diana_coman published serpent code.
mircea_popescu: looky, the past 3 days' work could have been done just as well in 2015 as today.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: in the sense of "wait for diana_coman to publish ada code and then i'll maybe give it 6 hours of attention". that's your 3years
mircea_popescu: and yes, ima implement "a cipher alf doesn't like" over alf's objections. because the only way alf'd be a stakeholder in this is... if... he had participated at a usefgul time. not at the time he felt like.
mircea_popescu: this discussion'd have been useful ~before~. after, it's spurious.
mircea_popescu: i suspect, if you care to know, that you have a major problem in that you only want to work on anything once it's too late. not coincidentally, but structurally, it being too late is principally part of the criteria impelling you to work.
mircea_popescu: and if you're curious -- the reason they "whisper" is because they have 0 confidence there's any listeners. and listener means a very specific thing : the sort of person who both a) meets the intelligence bar AND!!! ALSO!!!! b) does not hallucinate options. such as "oh, dun need to do this now."
mircea_popescu: maybe you're magical and have this option of going back in time, and good for you. i do not.
mircea_popescu: i saw the problem, in advance, i did my best to solve it, this is what came out of that.
mircea_popescu: i foresaw this need, in 2015. i put 10 btc behind encouraging people to fix the problem. it died an ignominous death, what i have is serpent, that's what it is.
mircea_popescu: this notion of "be anyone" etc is entirely fabricated, out of the venom of mother inca and the overactive brains of idle smart boys. nobody agrees with it, nothing agrees with it in practice, it never is nor ever was nor ever could be found in nature... it's like you thinking santa claus is real.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: g a point in case. if she's aspiring to "work for the government" she'll tell you about how unfair it is for blacks, if she aspires to work "for tech" she'll tell you how bad homeless are, if she wants to marry and dependopopotamusize she'll tell you handgun stats, whatever.
mircea_popescu: Mocky "After enough conversations with chicks I found the pattern. They talk the same by race, they act the same they think the same. It’s like NPCs backed by a bored dialog writer wielding a Markov chain." << honestly, i dunno how much time you spent talking with us-born chickies, but the EXACT SAME THING APPLIES. and they even actively work to create such systematic nonsense,
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-31#1867831 bein
☝︎ mircea_popescu: for all i know, just about the time i'm done uprooting this and planting that, you'll be geniusing the exact same thing about that. i have 0 confidence this won't happen, specifically because of historical evolution, and so...
mircea_popescu: i ain't about to change the code i have for a theory that might maybe work because the theory behind the code i have might maybe not work according to this drawing.
mircea_popescu: so the way this is going now -- serpent is going to be perfectly good (tm) for the republic, because the republic is the republic of slow moving, mentally confused morons that miss their opportunities to speak usefully.
mircea_popescu: not for his crime of "being smart" and "figuring out the true truth". but for his crime of saying things out of time. because there was a fucking time for this discussion, and it was strictly BEFORE s.mg paid money for people to work their ass off in preference of playing with their kids to get it a serpent.
mircea_popescu: 3. s.mg tried to be the one fucking thing in its line with encrypted comms, for which purpose it attempted to take some guidance and apply it in practice. NOW, after the money's spent, and the work put in, now smartass-architect comes by to explain "how arches really should be" and "why these arches are terrible". this is worse than useless. not a little worse than useless -- much, MUCH worse than useless. all it does is get
mircea_popescu: t's doing it. because this is what la serenissima is all about -- the doge back in venice is more then welcome to wholeheartedly support whatever the fuck the merchants on the blue find correct just and expedient.
mircea_popescu: im not attached to serpent in any way other than in the following sense you're well fucking advised to pay attention to : 1. s.mg is a corporation, meaning ith's here to make money. 2. s.mg is also trying, but as a fucking distant second, to be a "good" corporation, however that is politically defined. it doesn't give a fuck about this, not in any deep sense, if the money's good it'll go against policy, and CHANGE policy as i
mircea_popescu: we've been talking about c-s for what, 3+ years ? it's still in the same phase.
mircea_popescu: if 1layer then there's no space for your other-sequence.