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scriba: Logged on 2017-06-24: [01:45:14] <sina> mod6: heya, not
too bad, working on a gossipd impl!
mp-en-managua: ah, ben_vulpes'
thingee dun read outloud huh. also
the windows original product keys are a little lengthy.
☟︎☟︎ scriba: Logged on 2017-06-22: [23:58:00] <TomServo> Also, if someone could share a copy of mp-wp,
that'd be swell.
sina: gonna head out for dinner and hopefully start adding in pieces of
the crypto on my return
sina: took me a fair bit of debugging but I got
the gossipd
thing going so it sends and receives messages. peer addition and message addition are manual commands atm, but it does work :D github.com/sinner-/gossipd
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Felt
that.
The
thing is gotta learn
the more mundane feelings
to learn
the novel ones
☟︎ ben_vulpes: in other lols, assbot apparently still
tells folks about
the voice model
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: one of
the fun
things you won't learn about on a slavecycle is
the delightful secondary
torque around your axis of
travel developed when you open
the
throttle while
turning
BingoBoingo: Funny
thing is
the vehicle played with would have been perfect for crossing Darien gap
sina: finally, you got
the breaking power you
truly need!
BingoBoingo: Nah, had fun playing around on motorbike. Came
to realize
that
the physics of 4-wheels have
thoroughly colonized and corrupted my mind, and advancing further
than burnouts would benefit from attuning inner ear
to
two wheeled physics.
BingoBoingo: Or play around on one of
those 50cc 2-cycle scooters
to orient self
to 2 wheeled sense of balance
BingoBoingo: In other news pete_dushenski was right, I probably should learn how
to ride a mundane slave-bicycle before putting more effort into motorcycle learning
sina: you might roll
the key you're using
to
talk
to a particular peer, or want
to update its last seen status
sina: so really
the list of identities needs
to be mutable?
sina: it also states later
that clients should keep
track of last seen info
sina: but per
the next specification sentence,
the client will be generating keys constantly and potentially assigning
them
to use when connecting
to a peer
sina: I. Gossipd will have access
to a read-onlyii databaseiii of identitiesiv known
to it.
mod6: sina: if you wish, you can always ask your question, and im sure it'll get read in
the logs. someone will get back
to you eventually.
mod6: ah right on. just doing
trb related
testing :]
BingoBoingo: shinohai:
That was on Qntra last year, except for
the Arkansas ban part. good find, will qntra
shinohai: Ah ha! Well,
terms and conditions *do* apply it appears.
shinohai: A "we did it reddit" occurred when Coinbase announced
they will be making ppl
that called on
the ETH crash whole, but not really qntrable.
shinohai: Alo BingoBoingo in your "Violence
Today" piece ... s/is still after/is still at
shinohai: (also appears I forgot
to close
the SFYL
tag with </a>)
jhvh1: shinohai:
The operation succeeded.
sina: although
tbh I don't fully understand
the purpose because if someone is watching
the wire,
they will see
the session never gets fully established
sina: "Unsolicited challenge strings will also be sent, at intervals and
to destinations specified by
the operator."
sina: just going
through
those comments again
trinque, e.g.
http://trilema.com/2016/gossipd-design-document/#comment-119015 "One possible cut of
the Gordian Knot re: my "enemy's ability
to
trigger a response from a suspected-node on demand" would be for every node
to have a "lighthouse" - an always-on broadcaster of authentication challenge strings." per
the spec I will be implementing
this
sina: my impl is more "hey, here is a spec I can implement for some funtimes"
than "hey, here is a useful
thing"
sina: trinque: my problem is I don't have an original bone in my body, so short of a well described (enough) spec I have a lot of
trouble
sina: ah yeah I do remember reading
the lighthouse comments
trinque: guy can speak for himself, but I'm sure
these items await his "P"
trinque: there was for example
the lighthouse concept; asciilifeform has also spoken of using
the luby fountain algorithm over iirc either udp or raw IP packets.
sina: going
to get some food and chill out for a bit, any feedback would be appreciated
sina: trinque: is
there anything from
the
thread you
think was agreed
that materially modifies
the spec in post? I figured mp would have updated if so
sina: I'm working on
the spec per
the blog post,
the
thread had a lot of stuff on which
there wasn't a consensus yet
trinque: what you've got
there looks like a
tcp-gpg-wad hucker
sina: I need
to complete
the client part for
that so I can flesh out
the key handling
sina: anyway I am hoping
to have a decent complete implementation done by
tomorrow-ish
sina: shinohai: I was definitely
thinking about it.
there is a lot
to be said for
the strong
typing and forced error checking which makes
the program more robust
sina: its not finished yet, but I just completed
the "server" portion of
the daemon
the next piece is
to start on
the "client"
that connects
to peers, generates RSA keys, sends bogus challenges
sina: mod6: heya, not
too bad, working on a gossipd impl!
lobbes: I plan
to wrap my brain around, and
then run
the recommended
tests; will report results once I do
lobbes: in other news, I'm happy
to report my FUCKGOATS has arrived!
shinohai: We could have easily determined if it was javascript MP by asking it
to return random integers.
BingoBoingo: Have
to assume it is because of
the fyiad rule
lobbes: or lest Jaguar Spirit MP be some sort of Javascript MP. Stay
tuned
to find out, folx!
BingoBoingo: Now
to wait and see if key holding mp comes back
to confirm autheticity of jaguar spirit, lest jaguar spirit be some sort of shitty chameleon spirit
ben_vulpes: bit of state
to manage, since
the
thing sits in umpteen channels with umpteen different voice models
js-of-mp: aaand with
that, i shall bid you lot a very good weekend and laters!
a111: Logged on 2017-06-23 06:01 ben_vulpes: what is protocol for bot voice? mimisbrunnr now has a use for
that.
a111: Logged on 2017-06-23 04:59 pete_dushenski:
turns out it's quite
the mish-mash out
there. far from
the
taught controversy of reddit : "uasf" vs "core" vs "blockstream" . pretty much none of
the software versions you read about anywhere outside #t are actually
the ones in use.
js-of-mp: lol,
the dubious fortune of being also called pacepa.
js-of-mp: ah,
that iirc already exists, wikitards found some $rando.
a111: Logged on 2017-06-23 01:35 asciilifeform: re knuth... names ain't, afaik, copyrightable anywhere, even in usa.. so i half expect
to live
to see a 'mircea popescu foundation' run by, e.g., malia obummer, which funds
transsexualized rust programming for systemd plugins
js-of-mp: asciilifeform: backm in
the 80s,
the fashionable
thing
to say was "the city's a
toilet, moving
to whiteplains". well...
THEY HAD NO IDEA
THEN
js-of-mp: in proper
tornado, bottle drinks you!
shinohai is under
tornado watch, opens a bottle of wine
to celebrate ....
js-of-mp: asciilifeform: confounding dumb and poor is subversive in
this discussion.
phf: driving on a one way street,
through
the woods, a car burning in
the distance. "oh shit"
js-of-mp: asciilifeform:
they all grip
the same from behind...
phf: my north ireland friend
tells me
that
the burning car was a kind of symbol of
terror when she was growing up. it wasn't so much about
the car itself, it's
the fact
that around where it was burned
there were probably going
to be ira militants ready
to "check your papers"
js-of-mp: what's
the difference between
that and "i won't
talk
to
the girl at
the bar because wrong kind of music is currently playing" ?
js-of-mp: could build flea circus. you know
the story of
the ancient alf-sheik who had ant
thread gemstone ?