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mp_en_viaje: we still have more work to do than people to do it as it stands.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-03 21:15:31 trinque: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-25#1938022 << if you're hardening against the unreliability of freenode, why use freenode as your sync transport?
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-10-03#1939876 << i thought as it stands they're good forever, which is how eg spyked 's bot was voicing itself.
mp_en_viaje: omfg act to reduce unknowns. RATIONAL BEHAVIOUR it is called. the fucking reason you, as a serious engineer, try things ~one at a time~ rather than in random configurations is that you're trying to reduce unknowns. not to nurse old unknowns into survival and perhaps even invent new ones ?!
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-03 20:24:25 lobbes: still ain't a mp-endorsed castle either. I figure that time may come one day, but that time isn't now as far as I can tell.
mp_en_viaje: as it is the 6m from eulora bleeds into spyked/7h block
mp_en_viaje: (this multi-slot auction mechanism as described is actually a lot smarter than maybe realised at first sight, it does exactly what leftards claim capitalism can not do.)
mp_en_viaje: and list how much the current listed paid you, which'd be as it stands 0.
mp_en_viaje: alternatively, charge a fee for listing, by adding a small "be here" link, leading to a page, explaining that everyone there is there by ahving paid, and if you pay more than the one who paid least you get the top spot for as long as that lasts.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-10-03#1939870 << so add the first however many fit by last-updated in there, and permit "hacked" url notation anyway. eg right now "trilema" as listed links http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema ; but http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/xxx works in any case, whether it's listed or not, so all's good.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-10-03#1939824 << b specifically may be "the one girl with the one pubic hair with one crabs egg on it" sorta item, as it seems to carry the capacity to bring the whole system to criticality.
mp_en_viaje is not necessarily convinced that this is important or necessarily a goal ; but seens nothing wrong whatsoever with the attempt as such and has no objection to helping.
mp_en_viaje: then once this is done syncer spits out paste consisting of aggregate L in response to command given in 1, and accepts as response a succession of bits (0, 1) telling it which to take where.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-10-03#1939815 << how's this for a proposedly "better" algo : 1. syncer is given target T ; 2 sincer loads tip of T (as the whole day page, DP), compares to its own record ; 3. if comparison results in any difference, syncer produces list L in the format of #count, own line, T line and moves to 4. which consists of repeating algo for DP-1.
diana_coman: meanwhile an initial look at irc networks suggests they might be ~all about as lively as a corpse really; but anyways, oftc, undernet, espernet and dalnet seem to have made it to the top to be contacted in the coming days.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-03 12:46:59 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-10-03#1939710 << funnily enuff, the crypto-christians left behind in jp after missionaries expelled, mutated into such a bizarre fork chain that modern church does not recognize'em as anyffin at all ( they mutter unrecognizable chants , which at some pt in 17th c were latin , from phonetic crib sheets to this day... but elsewise resemble 'insular buddhist sect' very cl
mp_en_viaje: yes, precisely as in story -- the subject of self-delusion AND HIM ONLY goes about the world "under spell" of "the spell".
asciilifeform expects that 'adult' synctron will be nearly as complicated as the logger per se...
asciilifeform: ty BingoBoingo , broadcast the barf as it comes in
asciilifeform: all chans synced. as of just nao.
asciilifeform: these actually display as same line in readers
asciilifeform: aand dead again, just as i was syncing..
asciilifeform: instead picked a reasonable format where 'DEL;chan;idx;' proposes the removal of a line; 'ADD;chan;...' (with ... as in traditional raw dumps currently) proposes an import ; and # signifies comment until newline.
trinque: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-25#1938022 << if you're hardening against the unreliability of freenode, why use freenode as your sync transport?
lobbes: still ain't a mp-endorsed castle either. I figure that time may come one day, but that time isn't now as far as I can tell.
lobbes: asciilifeform: yea, I think I'ma gonna register a new channel with fleanode (#lobbes). As such, no need for archive import (there wasn't much in the old one either save for testing of various things). I'll let you know once it is live
lobbes: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-10-03#1939858 << hm, that channel is/was intended to serve as my cvasi-castle. Registered it some time ago and copied the naming format ala "#trilema-mod6"
diana_coman: asciilifeform: true re very little traffic in most chans as only reason why one can still sync manually, yes.
asciilifeform: ( it's the only way to avoid missing a line that was 'in flight' as the proggy ran, elementarily )
diana_coman: aha; and as such, it should ask for operator confirmation before delete + insert
asciilifeform: it is given strictly as a mechanized version of the thing we do presently when a bot falls.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: hence why i will not propose it as a fully automatic mechanism, i.e. part of bot reconnector.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: entirely correct, re disconnected bot ; though someone may speak ~as it reconnects~
snsabot: (ossasepia) 2019-10-03 asciilifeform: diana_coman: there is 1 potential point of danger re the described syncer -- if the 'break line' chosen was ~itself~ imported from another bot, it may result in unwanted droppage ( there is no guarantee of monotonicity of timestamps except as written by ~one particular~ bot, atm )
diana_coman: ah, you mean the timestamp as cross-chan reference point locally
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-10-03#1939710 << funnily enuff, the crypto-christians left behind in jp after missionaries expelled, mutated into such a bizarre fork chain that modern church does not recognize'em as anyffin at all ( they mutter unrecognizable chants , which at some pt in 17th c were latin , from phonetic crib sheets to this day... but elsewise resemble 'insular buddhist sect' very closely )
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-10-03#1939777 << a "me" will not be imported as "mi", because of complicated ethophonetic considerations that are directly and easily explained by reference to uncanny valley. man might take mulatto wife, but will not take corpse wife. even if was white in life, and gray is closer to white than chocolate.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-10-03#1939728 << the old libertard trick of presenting life expectancy as a scalar is as elementary as '3 card monte', ~nobody falls for it unless 'wants to'
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-03 02:31:53 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-10-02#1939660 << for my own archival needs i am satisfied the pope didn't so much "lose" china as... got to keep italy (and most of the old spanish possessions).
mp_en_viaje: it's somewhat a pity he was born before they figured out how to make houses, thus he's just as useless in practice as yest's discussed schloss.
mp_en_viaje: as always, romanian "dictionaries" made by tards, deeply unqualified to be away from munca de jos : https://dexonline.ro/definitie/miri%C8%99te quotes some imaginary bulgarian "мерище", that aside from not actually existing in bulgarian (there exists a town in Країна Хорватія whose name's thusly spelled IN UKRAINIAN though, of course, of course), can't even possibly be
mp_en_viaje: the one advantage of http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-10-02#1939683 as a general policy of the republic would be that it'd permit more meaningful / informative version reports. ie, "snsabot bot I am bot version 596907, "added mustachios and removed pistachios", by dillaudildo." in lieu of "snsabot bot I am bot version 596907."
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-10-02#1939660 << for my own archival needs i am satisfied the pope didn't so much "lose" china as... got to keep italy (and most of the old spanish possessions).
lobbes: back up; auction extended so it ends at roughly same time tomorrow as it should have ended today.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-02 02:25:07 mp_en_viaje: meanwhile, in things chinese thought, "Reading this proclamation, I have concluded that the Westerners are petty indeed. It is impossible to reason with them because they do not understand larger issues as we understand them in China. There is not a single Westerner versed in Chinese works, and their remarks are often incredible and ridiculous. To judge from this proclamation, their religion is no different from o
diana_coman: bvt: ping please when you regrind as I will sign it and mirror it too, thank you.
mp_en_viaje: meanwhile, in things chinese thought, "Reading this proclamation, I have concluded that the Westerners are petty indeed. It is impossible to reason with them because they do not understand larger issues as we understand them in China. There is not a single Westerner versed in Chinese works, and their remarks are often incredible and ridiculous. To judge from this proclamation, their religion is no different from other small, bigoted sects of Buddhis
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-01 17:20:15 lobbes_field: I can extend the auction for the downtime. Will make note not to charge for downtime hours as well (even though auction billing is still in suspended state)
feedbot: http://bingology.net/2019/10/01/overview-of-local-politics-as-the-election-approaches-pre-debate-edition/ << Bingology - BingoBoingo's Blog -- Overview Of Local Politics As The Election Approaches Pre-Debate Edition
asciilifeform: e.g. sovok 'type 941' is almost what you'd want (iirc 7 decks) size-wise. but prolly bad deal for same reason as the austrian thing.
mp_en_viaje: re submariens, no, i meant flat as in social hierarchy. commander's quarters aren't 100x the surface of midshipman.
mp_en_viaje: and as you can see from the shots, all the furniture can simply be thrown out, who the fuck wants a tub looks like an overlarge vase.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: it's roughly same problem as crewing a surplus sovok submarine
asciilifeform: prolly needs dozen+ just to maintain as a passable museum
mp_en_viaje: they're not particular good deals, they're simply fair "waterlevel" so to speak. useful as a comparison point if one's confused.
mp_en_viaje: now if you do the math, it comes to about same per bedroom-bathroom as the uruguay horrorshow
diana_coman: asciilifeform: nuked as requested; and answrt.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: wasn't intended as an objection to the idea. simply that in asciilifeform's head, the main open q re irc noades is , how well does the 'net split' sync mechanism in existing servers, worx
asciilifeform: for same reason as when there was only 1 logger.
BingoBoingo: The dueling law was killed as part of the 1990's "lets be a foreigner friendly place" push
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-30 13:52:31 mod6: Now, I've got some money for now, so I'm going to be able to take at least the rest of the year off. Beyond that, I'm still working on the details a bit; may do some per-diem consulting as I need to or what not.
mp_en_viaje: it's like "suppressing talking". it ~might~ not let other party think ; but it sure as fuck doesn;t let YOU think at all!
mp_en_viaje: that's the sadness of it. even if they might've been worth enslaving as 16yos (on strict body considerations, obv nobody wants a 16yo brain), by the time they've chugged enough "chow" to take them to twenny-someting... it's mostly a lost battle.
asciilifeform: makes as much sense as the other theories .
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-30 11:35:35 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-30#1939138 << the key to the puzzler aint much of a seekrit. goebbels put it in plain text. j00z were picked as 'instigators of the war' and meat grinder ramped up in direct proportion to the obviousness of germany starting to lose. the chronology fits.
asciilifeform: showed even compression waves in the powder as it went off
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-30#1939214 << actually, longer barrel exists chiefly for accuracy, not per se for speed afaik. the tradeoffs are friction/tear driven losses on one hand vs bullet stablization on other hand. speed/eenergy per se doesn't actualoly figure as such because very easy to fix / maximize / not even desired as max generally
diana_coman: that much is true but this is not going to solve it; the raw log thing is fine and yes, on a per chan basis, one has to request from their own "latest index" to as much as it takes to end up with "nothing"
asciilifeform: and presently can't think of how could be made to work as intended. possibly sync will have to remain per-chan.
asciilifeform: right, as-written it's 100% useless
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-28 14:13:23 asciilifeform: 'tape' knob i realized is unusable shortly after cut patch, it needs to be rewritten so as to give 'last N' , rather than using start/end index from the earlier raw-log knob
mod6: Now, I've got some money for now, so I'm going to be able to take at least the rest of the year off. Beyond that, I'm still working on the details a bit; may do some per-diem consulting as I need to or what not.
snsabot: Logged on 2017-06-12 19:16:29 asciilifeform: ^ 'altalena affair' resulted in the switcheroo where the upstanding folx ( irgun et al, who held the position 'rm -rf britain' , were replaced by the internationalkomyooniti obedient muppet circus who ended up 'recognized' by said komyooniti as 'israel'
snsabot: Logged on 2017-06-12 19:21:52 BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> ^ 'altalena affair' resulted in the switcheroo where the upstanding folx ( irgun et al, who held the position 'rm -rf britain' , were replaced by the internationalkomyooniti obedient muppet circus who ended up 'recognized' by said komyooniti as 'israel' << Aka. When da jooz jew'd the Jay-double-Oh-Oh-Zee
ericbot: Logged on 2019-09-30 16:37:29 asciilifeform: small-town precincts already run on this model, but currently (afaik) as department, rather than per-man
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-30 04:02:51 mp_en_viaje: c) the jews themselves are, obviously, as inconceivably stupid as always, i won't belabour the point of these morons, who finally got to make themselves a country and made it red-tape sovok socialism atop turkish legal system ffs.
asciilifeform: small-town precincts already run on this model, but currently (afaik) as department, rather than per-man
BingoBoingo: Charge em a fee to get their permit, count them as employed forever more without any particular follow up
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Nah, I mean Uruguay style. Count em as employed entrepreneurs and sole proprietors
BingoBoingo: Meanwhile in an ongoing trend in local news, primary risk factor for getting mugged is swiftly becoming employment as police officer https://www.montevideo.com.uy/Noticias/Un-delincuente-murio-y-un-policia-fue-herido-en-intento-de-rapina-uc731278
BingoBoingo: Seems cheaper to just count the parking extortionists as employed
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: There seems to be a racket where a loading with get a weird ricer name like .50 BEOWOLF or .300 BLACKOUT get some USG test firings and go on to market the round as things normally get marketed to jugalos,etc based on edgy/cool name
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-30 04:47:00 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-29#1939070 << afaik 100% it. also the future borne them out, not because "nuclear war" but because yeast infection. pretty much ANY platoon will fall back in a panic if you as much as hit one guy. and we're not talking here of domestic ra-ra-ra-i'm-so-bad-i-gotta-wear-a-mask cowardlice. even "battle hardened" "afghanistan veterans" are the same shit.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-30#1939138 << the key to the puzzler aint much of a seekrit. goebbels put it in plain text. j00z were picked as 'instigators of the war' and meat grinder ramped up in direct proportion to the obviousness of germany starting to lose. the chronology fits.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-30 04:50:44 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-29#1939082 << no, because by the time the bullet's leaving, it actually has same speed as the fireball. so moar contact wouldn't have accelerated it much further.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-30#1939147 << indeed they were. they demonstratively pissed on the ban, not even from 'practical' but as a stotting .
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-30#1939132 << h. göring famously had a j00 as general under him. for entire length of the war.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-29#1939096 << cuz it's a "large" (self-perceived, as always, an ysocialism will perceive itself as large much like every donkey will perceive its voice as melodious) failed (duh) socialism. it's what they do.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-29#1939082 << no, because by the time the bullet's leaving, it actually has same speed as the fireball. so moar contact wouldn't have accelerated it much further.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-29#1939070 << afaik 100% it. also the future borne them out, not because "nuclear war" but because yeast infection. pretty much ANY platoon will fall back in a panic if you as much as hit one guy. and we're not talking here of domestic ra-ra-ra-i'm-so-bad-i-gotta-wear-a-mask cowardlice. even "battle hardened" "afghanistan veterans" are the same shit.
mp_en_viaje disdains today as always disdained the negro / usigistani notions of "spray and pray" mac-10 is da shit nonsense.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-29#1939063 << yup, entirely wouldn't change anything about it even today. .45 is perfectly fine for standard issue / crowd control, .50 in zirconium loadout is perfect for armored / hardened targets such as any moron self-centered enough to wear a vest, helicopters / "armored vehicles" in urban settings etc.
mp_en_viaje: but it sure as fuck wasn't some retard from passau.
mp_en_viaje: meanwhile the retards idly posing as scholars's naive read would readily decide "misogyny!!!" if applied to trilema.
mp_en_viaje: c) the jews themselves are, obviously, as inconceivably stupid as always, i won't belabour the point of these morons, who finally got to make themselves a country and made it red-tape sovok socialism atop turkish legal system ffs.
mp_en_viaje: b) at a personal and microsocial level, jews were very well inserted, and well respected. even the most rabid of the [retrospectively read as] "antisemites" of the period make distinctions (very much on the pattern of "all the cunts are whores except for mom" ; "all tjhe jews are vermin except for my bff shclomo")
mp_en_viaje: but as factual matters : a) jews had lived for a long time in germany, and prospered there, and were throughout upstanding pillars of the community, unmistakably.
mp_en_viaje: item is just one of the lulziest bits of a huge bundle of historical evidence deeply inconvenient to the pantsuit socialists, because it quite clearly proves hitler's purported antisemitism as not merely a received idea, which didn't belong to him personally anymore than the notion that the string "sun" is how you describe the closest star belongs to you,
asciilifeform always wondered whether this and similar publishers, printed such marvels as 'course of cryptography' where caesar's cipher was presented as state of art, or the various 'wonderful explosives in kitchen' schemes ~guaranteed to homogenize the experimenter , at usg behest, or via the ample ameri-supply of naturally occurring idjicy
BingoBoingo: Competing Argentine and Brasilero intervention resolved that domestic dispute. Then everyone got together and nearly genocided Paraguay as a bonding exercise.