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shinohai: Good morning tmsr
mircea_popescu: right, so as to maximally expose it to the earlier matters discussed
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: idjits have this fondness for 'automate and transparentize pgp' etc
asciilifeform: 'i dun wanna raise an' lower the reactor rods by hand!111 too much exercise' 'ugh the indicator told me they lowered and turns out not!11 help'
mircea_popescu: why the fuck does it even have access to key
asciilifeform: 'This vulnerability led KMail to not encrypt email messages scheduled to be sent with a delay, even when KMail gave every indication that the email contents would be encrypted using OpenPGP.
asciilifeform: in other recent lulzies, http://archive.is/B3QXF >> 'KMail’s ‘Send Later’ caused PGP encrypted private emails to be sent in plain-text'
asciilifeform: we had the membrane thread iirc.
mircea_popescu: but the whole point of life is that retention, temporary as it may be.
mircea_popescu: gotta first have that power.
mircea_popescu: that's the whole thing : my keeping some women out of circulation is a reflection of my power.
mircea_popescu: but -- dead soldier had some proteins locked up. they're getting unlocked.
asciilifeform: for him the hour also comes.
asciilifeform: is raven on battlefield, eating eyes of a corpse, 'a cut above' the soldier?
mircea_popescu: money doesn't need anyone to understand what it's doing.
mircea_popescu: maybe. it doesn't matter : items must increase their market circulation. wife of socialist -> whore ; factory of socialist -> scrap iron, etcetera.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it isn't clear to me that, e.g., the mit theft, involved any guile or initiative -- is simply the idiot inheritors disassembling their father's house
Framedragger: yeah i guess that's a nice thing with deedbot, it doesn't need secret key for most of the stuff incl. challenges..
Framedragger: ah, that's what you meant, yeah ok
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform whoever steals from the stupid man is a cut above the stupid man, whatever his foibles.
mircea_popescu: nicaragua awaits them, by the way. very awoke place.\
asciilifeform: and into the hands of other redditards, lol
mircea_popescu: gotta take whatever's left out of the hands of the redditards.
mircea_popescu: hey, as socialism runs out of the agar, reverts to capitalism
asciilifeform: and the evaporating ip blocks, etc.
asciilifeform: basic idea - a vermin gets control of, e.g., factory, and processes it as a raw-material base - carefully organizes the disassembly and stealing of what-can-be-stolen, systematically, piece by piece, replacing with 'cheap prothesis' when possible to keep the budget dripping in for as long as practical
a111: Logged on 2017-06-27 03:49 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-26#1674489 << sounds entirely like The Drepperization. which is very much the only american technology style left.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-27#1674902 << there is a handy post-su word, 'распил' ('sawing-apart') to describe the process ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-06-27 04:32 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-26#1674605 << possibly one of the least visible pillars of tmsr for newcomers, because in world of socialist liquid shit everything is "mutable" ie liquid shit, and not accidentally. but because the only way socialism may masquerade as "sensible" is through rendering the past meaningless.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-27#1674920 << i took a 300+km trip by train, on east coast of usa, not long ago, and it was quite a sight - carcasses of dead factories, ex-trainstations belonging to ex-towns, and other 'dead past' that 'unhappened', plain for naked eye to see ☝︎
asciilifeform: afaik deedbot is currently the only thing auto-signing ( inside its tx-issuing trb )
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform they respond to deedbot
a111: Logged on 2017-06-27 05:08 ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-27#1674940 << excepting the special case of the bots
mircea_popescu: anyway, getting the "unhappened" to at least know there's a name for it can't hurty anything
asciilifeform: which is why on occasion i strap into the bathyscaph and go
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the problem with that eval is that you don't know until after they aren't worth the pearls.
mircea_popescu: hm. BingoBoingo see if dood wants to write a qntra post ? http://trilema.com/2015/on-how-the-factored-4096-rsa-keys-story-was-handled-and-what-it-means-to-you and all that.
asciilifeform: and, are the swine worth the pearls.
asciilifeform: banned as veteran spammer, after phuctor thread
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform tell him to maybe consider qntraing it ?
a111: Logged on 2017-06-27 04:45 mircea_popescu: and in other disbeliefs, i can't imagine anyone'd fucking read that plaintive undisciplined-female-whining mailing list ffs. what the everloving fuck.
asciilifeform: d00d posted it to http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-27#1674934 list and of course banhammered as 'off topic' ☝︎
asciilifeform: e.g. 'MH has been found on Intel motherboards around 2007 – 2008 in Russia. Intel Corporation has never announced that it had or has a hypervisor in BMC system management software. We did not get any comments from the corporation after we provided a copy of the paper.'
a111: Logged on 2017-06-27 04:59 deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/1DD542B4BEF18F141C7B6941F77348DB7B711C2E59FD22B9BCF8389711074965 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1762...0867 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '212.24.157.30 (ssh-rsa key from 212.24.157.30 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (exchange.piccollo.cz. CZ)
mircea_popescu: republican humour, man. it's a thing.
asciilifeform: lulzily, it was mircea_popescu who originally taught asciilifeform this fact
a111: Logged on 2017-06-27 05:44 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-27#1674829 << your correct answer there was to say you use FG as a clock. which'd have totally sunk him, "my time comes in MB entropy chunks, ha-HA!"
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-27#1675008 << this is actually more likely to sink you than simply using a very large time cushion would. ☝︎
asciilifeform: hypothetically -- even ping time might well have enough of a correlation to cpu load, that you can distinguish 'remanent of time cushion' from 'still rsa-ing' and eliminate the cushion.
asciilifeform: against these, 'time boxing' does 0.
a111: Logged on 2017-06-17 19:45 asciilifeform: hypothetically i could even do it ( supposing your rsatron is mains-powered ) by observing the imperceptible dimming of the room lights, from 5km away
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-27#1675006 << there are side-channels other than timing, and some -- readable from considerable distance ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-06-27 05:12 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-27#1674891 << i've been using that one for a while, with a https://www.amazon.com/CST2545-L-Trac-Wired-Performance-Trackball/dp/B00EEFK5QQ trackball in the middle. i'm pretty happy with that setup. i've figured out how to get the firmware out of the controller, so i'm hoping to customize some of the keys (that are otherwise useless)
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-27#1674958 << lol, are those f-keys rubber?! ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-06-27 09:15 sina: mircea_popescu: is it intention that there should be encryption from author to recipient as well?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-27#1675077 << there's no intention that there would be plaintext anything, wtf. ☝︎☟︎
sina: mircea_popescu: is it intention that there should be encryption from author to recipient as well? ☟︎
sina: but each peer can see the msg plaintext of the messages for now
sina: ok so I implemented some p2p encryption for the gossipd thingo
a111: Logged on 2017-06-27 03:21 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-26#1674422 << consider that the damage you already did to modern man's most important joint is permanent. do not add.
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-27#1674880 << home orifice is another quarter or 4 months away yet; and the republic calls even in the dead of night ☝︎
ben_vulpes: of course i need a space before the closing paren
mircea_popescu: aok then
mircea_popescu: !W (ret "there is an atmosphere of toxic masculinity brewing in this channel!")
ben_vulpes: look either you return the hooker in working order or kill her and hide the body and make yourself scarce.
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: "candi_lustt evals everything after !W in an SBCL environment with full access to the underlying host."
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes can it be pushed into single line by appending the log bit ?
BingoBoingo: So the solution is invasivitize roo's to the rest of the world to stop GoogAppAzon
pete_dushenski: inb4 "you call that an autocannon, THIS is an autocannon" and roos shoot back
pete_dushenski: "Volvo Australia's technical manager David Pickett told the Australian Broadcasting Corporation (ABC) on Saturday that his company has been trying to solve the issue for 18 months. He said the way a kangaroo moves completely bamboozles the system -- a problem they haven't had with other animals around the world."
pete_dushenski: http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2017-06/24/c_136391168.htm << autonomous lulz. perhaps of interest to ben_vulpes
pete_dushenski: the love of great inca is a nasty habit to kick
BingoBoingo: Hmmm markets seemed to prefer mp as a jaguar spirit
pete_dushenski: as they do. but if you could summarise what you have to date i can tableise them and post.
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: it'll grow over time, i'll letcha know
pete_dushenski: also, yes, stale page ben_vulpes. url back to orig.
mircea_popescu: alright then
a111: Logged on 2017-06-27 03:12 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-26#1674379 << introductions aren't intended to be handled by gossipd. the correct way to do this is for me to say "add 8A56264EAD0BC4BD9CD7AC0086B488AB sina" which is a legitimate pubkey of your gossipd, AND for you to go whatever re mine. then they can talk, change keys etc. not before./
sina: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-27#1674872 << sorry I used the wrong term there, I meant the operator. what I ended up with re that query is approximately what you've got there, except it's a two step process. 1. gossipc --add-peer --name sina --host <host> --port <port> which furnishes you a pubkey you can exchange with that peer (and they vice versa with you) and a seperate command to set the peer key ☝︎
mircea_popescu: prolly in a few days thay
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: shoot me a list of all the commands for your bots when you have a min.
BingoBoingo: As opposed to sintered FG cock
a111: Logged on 2017-06-27 01:55 sina: fine, what if we assume two independent computers
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-27#1674829 << your correct answer there was to say you use FG as a clock. which'd have totally sunk him, "my time comes in MB entropy chunks, ha-HA!" ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-06-27 01:50 asciilifeform: arbitrary 'don't report the answer for T units of time' doesn't work, because you have no hard assurance of no spill.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-27#1674765 << well, without crypto and without gossip. but then again the latter not meaningfully possible without former anyway. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-27#1674737 << this is the fundamental problem here. if we're not really using encryption then we're not really using encryption. ☝︎
ben_vulpes: a nod's as good as a wink to a blind man
mircea_popescu: or was it the other way round
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: ty
ben_vulpes: mod6: yeah, i bitched about that a day or so ago; now i have stale dns
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes for the same bot ?
mod6: not sure if that helps.
mod6: i see that http://trilema.com/2016/trilema-bot-spec/ -> http://www.contravex.com/trilema-bots-directory/
ben_vulpes: oh ffs now bots.contravex.com redirects to http://www.contravex.com/trilema-and-eulora-bots-directory/
ben_vulpes: gonna need two while we're at it
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes she should prolly move to control seq
mircea_popescu: and i mean to say that if the bot always verifies after a fixed time there's... fixed time.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i mean to say in the case that the op is asleep when the bot goes offline, it'll stay that way until the op awakes
mod6: phf: nice, let me know if you get there. i'd like to re-map some of 'em too.