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decimation: yeah. it's a lost cause
asciilifeform: decimation: hence total lack of interest in attempting to put a civilized unixlike on these
asciilifeform: decimation: a box without 100% working suspend-to-ram is worthless to me
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Weird. Five minutes walk from here is a zone where absolute lawlessness is permitted ☟︎
decimation: asciilifeform: yes, I have a couple of early intel macbooks that have been abandoned
asciilifeform: and has a 'tresspassers will be shot again' sign, most certainly.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Are there any open spaces? the cheapest .22 LR rounds tend to be more satisfying. If you have a camera that can capture slow motion, especially avoid the copper plate ones
asciilifeform: they EOLed a '09 box, yes
decimation: try 'upgrading' a 10.6 mac to 10.7 and not 10.8, for instance
BingoBoingo: The lead on glass on lead pop is a satisfying noise
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i've a massive 'sun' trinitron here that 'needs mercy'
BingoBoingo: Born of the same reasoning that leads one to jack off inside a pussy in a .gif
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> me to colleague: 'mac has to be good for... something?' him: 'take it to the range, it'll make good target' << 9" model and .22 LR makes a nice pop when phosphors are too faded
asciilifeform: and fuck, i blew a benjie on chinese aftermarket ssd made just for that box, so it would hold this thing
asciilifeform: 'The darwin x86_64 gnat crashes with "illegal instruction: 4" on my macbook pro / OS X 10.7.5 :-(Edit: I upgraded to OS X 10.8.3. Now gnat works...' -- from a forum comment. shitgnomism.
mircea_popescu: a fine example of "teachning kids math = making kids unable to understand math"
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Actual line from text you though worthy of offering a solution to: "Currently she was being referred to as the Sparkly Unicorn Princess of the Noble and Most Ancient House of Sparklypoo."
mircea_popescu: why not f(a,b) = 1 then
asciilifeform: concat (int a, int b) -> int n
BingoBoingo: Are we sure the fanfic propaganda guy isn't a teen girl "As it turned out, nobody had worked out that her challenging Neville to a Most Ancient Duel meant that she liked him. She'd thought it would be obvious but no, nobody else had even thought of that apparently."
adlai: uncompressed ECDSA key = (x,y) on the curve; compressed = a single number that can have the coordinates extracted from it, because the lines described by the range of compressed keys each intersect the [top half of the] curve at one point
mircea_popescu: there's a lot of space in that pretty much.
adlai: mircea_popescu: it gets better when you realize that even everypair's a number
BingoBoingo: <adlai> slightly related, friend who worked one of those shit-selling carts in a canadian mall, hocking 'Dead Sea' products, got asked by a straight-faced mark: "isn't that where captain jack sparrow was from?" << At our local malls those were all hookers at the carts
adlai: slightly related, friend who worked one of those shit-selling carts in a canadian mall, hocking 'Dead Sea' products, got asked by a straight-faced mark: "isn't that where captain jack sparrow was from?"
assbot: Logged on 04-03-2015 03:25:17; danielpbarron: isn't a private key a number?
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-03-2015#1040368 << everything's a number, in the sense of , ennumerable. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: the common law has some categories. there's robbery, with violence. there's theft, without violence but with the knowledge of the victim. there's fraud, without the initial knowledge of the victim. there's embezzelment, where the victim isn't a person per se. and there's defalcation, which is merely negligent or reckless, rather than intentional.
assbot: Logged on 04-03-2015 03:22:22; decimation: I also think the fiat machine that enables mass theft from everyone's savings is a form of usary
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-03-2015#1040355 << you shall know a lizzard always and everywhere by this sign, that being a reptile has no grasp or appreciation for mammal reproduction. ☝︎
BingoBoingo: adlai: Snowden successfully contacted Poitras first. More than a year after attempting Greenwald the frist time. Not sure, but second snowden seemed to contact Greenwald while snowden1 in Moscow. Disappeared.
decimation: at any rate, I don't think poitras or greenwald have enough of a clue to move a person of interest across borders
decimation: snowden might have contacted wikileaks acting as a foil for the russian security services
assbot: Logged on 04-03-2015 03:00:58; *: BingoBoingo remembers in early 2012 before scandal Petraeus being floated as a more serious threat to Obola than Congress
asciilifeform: to borrow dan mocsny's device, 'like the ruins of a great city, you can tell the woman was once beautiful - but you wouldn't want to move into parthenon' ☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: much too charitable a reading
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform meta-people, basically. unable to act because stuck pondering implications as a passtime.
adlai: the state of "digital signatures" in the fiat world is quite sad... if anybody wants a sad laugh, https://boards.greenhouse.io/hellosign/jobs/5726
asciilifeform: greenwald is the same animal as every other creature who 1) had a copy of The Goods + 2) sat and continues to sit on it
mircea_popescu: puts every single usg drone in a very uncomfortable position.
mircea_popescu: decimation a lot has been accomplished however.
decimation: ultimately, snowden's downfall is that he's a libertard, and that by 'creating a conversation' or 'raising awareness' he can accomplishing anything is a fallacy
mircea_popescu: he thinks his life is a life, and his woman a woman, and so on and so forth
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not a bureaucrat
adlai: http://www.metzdowd.com/pipermail/cryptography/2014-September/022803.html < tlsnotary overview by the author, conveys details better than a tl;dr
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform why do you think the idiocy of a bureaucrat is remarkable to any degree ?
BingoBoingo: decimation: Media sensation part seem sto mostly have been an asbestos jacket. He seems, if film was honest to know it was a life shortening ploy, but less so than what manning did.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Aha they took reop as is... Even with the part where it only exists as a "go" turd
asciilifeform: in other nyooz, today at $censored_firm we were suddenly excited to learn that a very, very costly $censored_guild_professional will accept a document via 'pgp'... only to learn that he was speaking of a 100%-proprietary turdware
adlai: tlsnotary lets you turn any bank with functional online services into the fiat side of a wot-based exchange
mircea_popescu: decimation missing a verb ?
assbot: Logged on 04-03-2015 01:47:14; Pierre_Rochard: decimation: this is about separating the traders’ cash from the exchange’s cash. Comingling of funds is not a good idea, as you point out it can lead to “fractional reserve” by the exchange (more precisely, defalcation)
decimation: asciilifeform: regex does seem to be a kind of 'hair shirt' that is proudly worn by modern programmers
BingoBoingo: Moses set a bad example
gabriel_laddel: adlai: I was linking you to it b/c you asked why one might want a lispm
mircea_popescu: ultimately also failed. it's a hard fcking thing.
mircea_popescu: apple came a lot closer to making phones = iphone
mircea_popescu: they had a chance at making games = consoles, prior to 94
mircea_popescu: it's kind-of like looking for a soviet army unit without a political comissar.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-03-2015#1040238 << it's never the case that you can find one of these "things that be" (as per http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=01-03-2015#1038150 ) that doesn't have a mole ready to go wherever. ☝︎☝︎
assbot: Logged on 04-03-2015 01:16:52; asciilifeform: hruschev was a whole gensec and what did that get him after retirement.
BingoBoingo: adlai: A number of technologies produce by a factor of ten more probems than they solve, why would regex be so bad. Not like it is python...
asciilifeform: a multiaxial shielded cable was included for this purpose
asciilifeform: for instance, the console was really a powerful computer in its own right (contained video rendered and sound card) and could be separated from the (very loud!) machine by, iirc, 200 metres!
asciilifeform: lispm gives an interesting feeling straight away - of computer that cost what a business airplane cost, and intended to maximize the thinking power of an economically-important thinking person
adlai: regex authorship is a treacherous knowledge
BingoBoingo: adlai: If I had knowledge to author regex, I'd have a refutation...
assbot: Logged on 04-03-2015 01:11:52; Pierre_Rochard: ^ what I’m waiting for is an exchange with segregated fiat accounts held by a custodian bank. May be wishful thinking
adlai: you used a regular keyboard with the lispm?
asciilifeform: adlai: though if you want a '100% authentic' experience with the emulator, you'll need a symbolics keyboard and an adapter
assbot: Logged on 04-03-2015 01:10:36; pete_dushenski: at the time it seemed like a basement operation
mircea_popescu: it's a joke!
decimation: macports has a 'port' of gcc-gnat , but it requires an existing ada compiler to build
decimation: asciilifeform: I spent a few days trying to get ada working on osx 10.9, gave up
BingoBoingo confesses running to OpenBSD instead of Gentoo not because of knowledge, but from a lack of knowledge. Still determine personal minimal set of installed software. No confident enough to make best choices on a whole workstation (as opposed to appliance) stack.
asciilifeform: adlai: haven't switched it on in a good long while.
mircea_popescu: "Samba is a suite of SMB and CIFS client/server programs." szus nothing to me
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: there's a set of ports for 'dragonfly bsd'
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> decimation: but in this case the package manager is not at fault. someone deliberately sabotaged a library. << So on OpenBSD I'm nt finding an Ada port or package that works with sufficient frequency to make it too the tree. Looking like the turdswitch may have been flipped in GCC
asciilifeform: i don't give a flying fuck either way about the hipsters
asciilifeform: that is, a hard-standardized (iso preferred) prog. lang. with safe types and deterministic memory usage, that has extant compiler back-ends for all major cpu architectures
decimation: asciilifeform: well, this is a general problem in C programming - the failure to provide a global namespace
asciilifeform: adlai: i'd love to learn of a substitute for ada
asciilifeform: decimation: but in this case the package manager is not at fault. someone deliberately sabotaged a library.
assbot: Logged on 08-02-2015 18:50:39; asciilifeform: trying to explain that it is quit impossible to have a package management system above the language level that is not dumbed down by support for braindamaged languages.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform overheard right now "o yeah ? well the gentoo manual was down for likle... 3 days. i don't think this is a good sign"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: wtf it's supposed to be << it's precisely what it looks like to the unarmed eye: a perfectly good symbol that a shitgnome whose arsehole pines for the stake decided to zap to boost his feeling of relevance and be '1337 contributor'
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> this "private language" thing is a lot easier said than done. << Is any truly dark art otherwise? When you surrender the truth of mathematics to language?
decimation: adlai: recently i've become a fan of arvo pärt (yes, via moldbug)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the notion of a "deprecated symbol" boggles my mind.,
mircea_popescu: i remember a time, maybe 10 or so years ago, when having a paypal was like, a point of pride.
adlai is no longer a pay pal >:(
mircea_popescu: this "private language" thing is a lot easier said than done.
adlai: well anyone can factor a number of arbitrary length in arbitrary time... consistently being able to factor arbitrary length numbers in constant time, now that is a 'supernatural' algorithm, relative to current knowledge
BingoBoingo: If anyone has a time machine to lend I have all kinds of trans cholonolgical arbitrage opportunities that can enrish you provided you give me exactly one whole minute longer than it takes to start the machine alone with it.
nubbins`: such a strange place, this
danielpbarron: even though it's still not proven, i'll go out on a limb saying that the ability to factor a number of arbitrary length would have to come from a supernatural source, and such a being could probably break all the alternative methods
mircea_popescu: sounds like a great vc toiletry service.
mircea_popescu: looking in the logs, apparently alf created a new word nao, "portatronic"
adlai: not really, there's just a single prime in bitcoin crypto, and there's no need to factor anything