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cazalla: the other leftie type being.. amir/hippy types living in a hovel engaging in drug fuelled orgies?
adlai: sure, i know what scytales are. but 'a variable diameter stick is really a fascinating way of graphing cryptographic curves.' = ?
mircea_popescu: but otherwise, a lefty commune more likely to be nude than otherwise.
assbot: ECCHacks - A gentle introduction to elliptic-curve cryptography [31c3] - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1aOq8Yt )
mircea_popescu: the weirdo abominable us "lefties", which are really a sort of recycled aunt pollies, yes.
cazalla: got another retweet for the bits for tits trilema post.. this time by a bitcoin magazine for women.. ah ha, they don't even read, just retweet
pete_dushenski: "The aeolipile was a hollow sphere mounted so that it could turn on a pair of hollow tubes that provided steam to the sphere from a cauldron. The steam escaped from the sphere from one or more bent tubes projecting from its equator, causing the sphere to revolve. The aeolipile is the first known device to transform steam into rotary motion."
pete_dushenski: they had philosophers, but that's a different thing
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu aha you're quite right about the scytales. a variable diameter stick is really a fascinating way of graphing cryptographic curves.
mircea_popescu: the sooner they lose all hope the sooner their children can begin tearing up redditardamerica and building a livable space north of rio grande.
assbot: Logged on 05-03-2015 12:47:00; punkman: flooding a nice forest probably not the best idea, but their argument rests on lousewort?!
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-03-2015#1042955 << their argument rests on some random schmuck who went in the field to "Study" it, introduced some seeds, claimed to have discovered the resulting plants and woe and behold, a redditard mattered! ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 05-03-2015 11:47:57; assbot: Russian Lawmaker: Bitcoin is a CIA Conspiracy ... ( http://bit.ly/1Fd7rXE )
adlai: asciilifeform: 'x % kills' << this would be a totally meaningless epsilon for any 'perfect information bot' that actually acts on that information
adlai: gathering and interpreting actual information is a totally different story, and there's a huge amount of information that most/all human traders totally *ignore*, and that's as mike_c said - past order book movements
adlai: more personally, if perfect information exists, scalpl is truly a wild goose chase; i'm betting my time on perfect information not existing, and there being room for patience to profit off information fuzzyness
punkman: I don't think carnot cycle is a good analogy here
asciilifeform: sorta like the 'x % kills' (what fraction of the monsters you dealt with) shown at the end of a 'doom' level
adlai: there's a lot of interesting knowledge in the distribution of expected liquidity events given all other data on the market, but it's far from 'perfect', because it gives you, at best, a precisely calculated distribution of 'past performance'
adlai: nope, but it's a problem that individuals can tackle for themselves
assbot: Logged on 05-03-2015 22:10:23; asciilifeform: incidentally, anyone ever try the exercise of writing a 'pefect knowledge' bot that tells you 'what could have been' ?
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adlai: specifically, scalpl's purpose is to produce the fastest possible escape rocket for a given (parametrizable) risk tolerance; once that technology is in place, it's just a matter of finding a market for which the maximum speed at your risk tolerance exceeds escape velocity
adlai notes to self to offer asciilifeform a seat on the escape rocket, should the clue ever be proven
adlai not sure if he counts as a 'folks with a clue'
assbot: Logged on 05-03-2015 22:13:44; asciilifeform: is depth really a concern for infinitesimal working sum ?
asciilifeform: calculate, how much coin would i need to have on hand for it to be worth the effort in getting a coinbr account and making the gears go correctly
asciilifeform: (unless someone noticed that he's a god, and gave him a bag of coin for lulz. but that's outside the rules of the gedankenexperiment!)
mike_c: jurov: just a poke at the frequency of dividend mistakes on that asset :)
asciilifeform: i merely suspect that no one, not even a god, could 'get rich' at 'investing' pocket change at mpex
mike_c: i'll leave it at this - you will come up with a number that is just as useful with public info as you would with non-public info.
asciilifeform: 'perfect info bot' is this abstract thing. a god.
asciilifeform: understand, interested here in 'theoretical best' of what a smart person with almost no funding could achieve ☟︎
asciilifeform: is depth really a concern for infinitesimal working sum ? ☟︎
mike_c: well, I not only have a clue, i have the order book history :) ☟︎
asciilifeform: folks with a clue - comment, would the result have any useful connection with reality ? ☟︎
asciilifeform: as in, the maximum one could have hoped to earn on coinbr in a particular time interval starting with x btc
asciilifeform: incidentally, anyone ever try the exercise of writing a 'pefect knowledge' bot that tells you 'what could have been' ? ☟︎
mike_c: at least not more than a couple time
mike_c: why not gamble on a +EV game?
danielpbarron: asciilifeform's got a good point though, with such little amounts you aren't going to move the market -- might as well just pretend trade in a txt file ☟︎
mike_c: there's nothing wrong with taking a few btc and playing around on coinbr as a way to learn more about btc finance world.
asciilifeform: (i, for instance, wasn't interested at all until invited to write a review, using free demo. which i did. and in the course of said demo, realized that i've not particularly much to -do- with such a thing, on account of having approximately no coin)
mike_c: same reason as havelock. buy a few shares and you feel a part of something big.
mike_c: people call charles schwab, not NYSE, when they have a problem.
assbot: Loper OS » A Review of MPEx, the Bitcoin Stock Exchange. ... ( http://bit.ly/1BMeIPc )
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: if homo redditicus were only a problem because 'spamming the orderbook', that would be another thing. a bot could theoretically 'vacuum up the chump money' and that's that. But - they, as i understand, spam support lines, public fora, and overall poison the atmosphere in ways not outweighed by the pennies they bring in
jurov: and it isn't a big sum anyway
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Or simply selling access to his proxy for a fixed price option. Maybe in the range of 5-20% of what the mpex account costs, so still an intege BTC price in this hypothetical.
felipelalli: jurov: maybe a year plan would be nice as well.
BingoBoingo doesn't see why jurov shouldn't get paid for "fire and forget" Could be a one time fee much larger than the monthly fee.
felipelalli: jurov: like a "pause"?
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: well I keep my private key in a back up in a tube up my but
danielpbarron: you can always make a bitbet bet
felipelalli: well, if I buy like $10 in assets, if I pay $5 / month I am making a bad deal, right?
asciilifeform: and you have to somehow come up with new btc once in a while
jurov: are these bitcents really such a problem?
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: for an american gasenwagen, it is theoretically enough that you moved $int from your bank account to a known btc exchange at some point
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: what is a clean coin? i thought there is no taint in bitcoin << but there is in fiat.
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: aren't there 3.6k coins found every day that need to find a new home or else a miner can't pay his electricity bill << ^ quite a bill
asciilifeform: and one or more quietly produced a great many units which do not publicly exist except for their hash
danielpbarron: what is a clean coin? i thought there is no taint in bitcoin
asciilifeform: ^ that was my theory (though quite likely it's a formula obvious to many folks)
danielpbarron: aren't there 3.6k coins found every day that need to find a new home or else a miner can't pay his electricity bill?
asciilifeform: price drops as supply exceeds demand << this is like finding a corpse and declaring 'he died from not breathing'
mike_c: the price drops as supply exceeds demand (in a macro sense). if you believe that draper, silbert, etc. represented demand, and that the demand would have eventually made its way to the exchanges even if not directly
asciilifeform: this would result in exchange rate failing to to climb, but how would it lead to a drop ?
asciilifeform: mike_c: i still don't get why somebody buying a parcel of $maxint btc would affect the price on, e.g., 'btc-e'
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: afaik the only source of this hypothesis is mircea_popescu, who presumably has a clue, but understandably won't reveal source of said clue
asciilifeform: f someone like Emwazi, whom MI5 had been chasing for years, can simply disappear, only to reappear as the man beheading western journalists (though technically, the videos never show him doing so), then it suggests the entire dragnet is least effective when it is most needed. The Express’ ill-defined sources appear to want to tell a story about SIGINT succeeded rather then explain how it is that SIGINT failed (at least accor
asciilifeform: 'British intelligence sources are now claiming that the SIGINT hunt for Emwazi preceded the HUMINT one, and also claiming that a SIGINT clue — and the related SIGINT trail that clue uncovered — provided the breakthrough in IDing him. Which is almost certainly bullshit. But notable bullshit, for two reasons. First, because the current story — that the UK lost Emwazi — poses really big problems for the dragnet. Because i
asciilifeform: whole point of electrostatic cleaner is to make dust stick to things (in a well-constructed one, the 'thing' is the filter inside)
kakobrekla: heres a few of the more interesting pwm ones; http://shrani.si/f/3M/2d/4N2Jzpz2/profiles.png ☟︎
kakobrekla: but the fans have a minimum speed at which they will actually turn
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: can always solder a controller inline with the cord
asciilifeform: or were you doing a cubometres/decibel thing
kakobrekla: still got a crate of 'bad' ones.
kakobrekla: i dont know from the top of my head which one bq uses but i bought 50 high end fans a year+ ago and tested them all
kakobrekla: tip: if you need a quiet fan, get one 'be quiet' makes
thestringpuller: BingoBoingo: you have given me imagery of asciilifeform having a "posse". asciilifeform: "Why are you people following me?" Member of posse: "Oh, we're you're crew. We follow you everywhere."
asciilifeform: (tip: if anyone else has a 'liebert' ups, and replacing fan, don't throw out old one. you will need to snip&solder the connector.)
asciilifeform: put a 'pabst' fluid bearing 80mm in there. golden toilet, should last.
asciilifeform: (it's a 'double-conversion' monster that runs inverter 100% of the time)
asciilifeform replaced a ~15 year old fan
mike_c: or a scamzor.
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adlai: it ain't a cryptoparty if nobody's having fundation
thestringpuller: http://i.imgur.com/koR75BV.png << what a great typo
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: ... #b-a actually banned ever? << mr spam, mr moarspam, others
thestringpuller: ben_vulpes: yea. now we can associate bitcoin trades to a key to associate trust value.
ben_vulpes: <decimation> [05:35] asciilifeform: I feel sorry for the poor guy, his heart is in the right place but he has no idea what kind of elephant he is trying to eat << more like a spittoon
ben_vulpes: <BingoBoingo> [05:31] mircea_popescu: Has #b-a actually banned ever? << tiberius.
punkman: flooding a nice forest probably not the best idea, but their argument rests on lousewort?! ☟︎
assbot: Russian Lawmaker: Bitcoin is a CIA Conspiracy ... ( http://bit.ly/1Fd7rXE ) ☟︎
mircea_popescu: Because it is endangered and endemic to the area, development projects have been restricted to preserve its habitat. For example, the Dickey-Lincoln dam, a $227 million hydroelectric project proposed on the upper Saint John River in 1974, was deauthorized by Congress in 1986 after years of study, because the dam would have flooded 88,000 acres (360 km2) of Maine forest and severely reduced the lousewort's habitat. Some
cazalla: saw a few trades earlier
cazalla: the cops already shut down an arterial road a few suburbs over this afternoon because some guy dared shoot annoying birds with an air rifle