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asciilifeform: now if cmucl actually worked, rather than compiling to crasholade...
phf: sbcl is the original "modern"11! lisp. it gives "style warnings" on my code, but completely ignores type errors in ben_vulpes's code (compiling same code in cmucl gives a lot of warnings about the types being all kinds of confused)
phf: (funny thing re sbit vs bit, sbit generates immediate assembly, where's bit, in sbcl, calls out to a function named SB-KERNEL:HAIRY-DATA-VECTOR-REF. nuff said) ☟︎
phf: and the other issue with adjustable arrays is that you're doing a lot of expands (and that's what mp's fhf does), you're generating n^2 garbage
phf: i'm pretty sure biggest overhead is in using adjustable arrays, because you lose out on using sbit instead of bit. sbit expects (simple-array bit (*)) and apart from doing basic type check it has very little overhead.
phf: ben_vulpes: i'm pretty sure your type annotations are doing nothing useful. cursory look i think only fixnum stuff is taking effect, but that's such a small overhead
jhvh1: shinohai: The operation succeeded.
shinohai: !~later tell hanbot Ah sorry I missed your message, I was out at that time cojunto-ing with local girls. ;)
hanbot: conjuuuunto. tyty!
mircea_popescu: ah im sorry, to match as in a set. conjunto fambly should suit you.
hanbot: any spanish speakers here have a decent translation for "match"? to place in a set, not pairing, not equaling, not anything else online dictionaries'd like to synonymize me with.
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: was otherwise occupied; twas a teep just the teep
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/E51426CFDA85B249F6D15DC1C02D7D376AC72762320584257E84D9FDE6DC1393 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1623...1269 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '89.250.54.58 (ssh-rsa key from 89.250.54.58 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (Unknown FI)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/E51426CFDA85B249F6D15DC1C02D7D376AC72762320584257E84D9FDE6DC1393 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1379...0579 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '89.250.54.58 (ssh-rsa key from 89.250.54.58 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (Unknown FI)
a111: Logged on 2017-07-04 03:22 BingoBoingo: January 2019 Trump will likely be Nixon proof. Pantsuit will have to resort to Kennedy solutions.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-04#1678949 << "mentally unstable secret service transgender charlie shoots president. VIOLENT COMPUTER GAMES MAY HAVE BEEN INVOLVED!!!!" ☝︎
mircea_popescu: when pantsuit.org discovers that it's antiourdemocracy for senate supermajority to take decisions.
a111: Logged on 2017-07-04 03:18 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Because the fork in the GOP will likely be resolved in the primary season, and Pantsuit is set up to take massive losses in Senate.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-04#1678942 << to the tune of reich getting 2/3 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: at any rate, there's a floor under human abstraction. voltages stabilize after a time. etc.
mircea_popescu: are you making the rsatron or aren't you ?
asciilifeform: but on earth, why should trade not return a hard 'went' or 'not-went' in 100msec or so ?
mircea_popescu: there's no such thing as a human-accessible time interval that's not human accessible.
asciilifeform: this'd make more sense if trading still happened on donkeys; or if earth-mars, and farthest approach, and gotta wait 20 min each way
mircea_popescu: not on paper at any rate. even if in their mind.
mircea_popescu: notice that no one goes to the hospital with a "i came here so you make me healthy" contract.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not even doublespend, they were not allocated. therer's such a thing as nonbinding allcoators.
mircea_popescu: people like to think in terms of the former, it's less impedancy, but reality works on lattert
mircea_popescu: "oh but this wasn't really a trade" "it was an accepted tender!" "mmkay"
mircea_popescu: trades routinely get unwound. you call the shop, "do you have bananas ?" "yes we do". you come to shop, they don't. "Wtf!" "Someone bougth them!"
asciilifeform: why should trades ever get unwound
mircea_popescu: something with the options bot at any rate.
mircea_popescu: i don't even specifically remember, was years ago. but im sure there was a good reason.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there was ONE instance of dude having his trade unwound. he promptly got pissed off and went and lost his wad on $randomscam.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: mpex afaik never reverted trades either ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-07-04 03:09 asciilifeform: in other unsurprises, 'Corrupt data that accidentally flowed out of a NASDAQ systems test caused the share prices...'
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-04#1678932 all i have to say is http://trilema.com/2013/why-mpex-is-better-than-fiat-institutions-part-349085 ☝︎
asciilifeform: ( re fredericus et al : i had nfi how many of these d00d had !! e.g. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5Nwsqy6v_Q is new to asciilifeform )
mircea_popescu: so they're stuck in the loser's spin of trying to find "the realer real one"
mircea_popescu: part of the problem and the font of all the "russianb spies" lulz is that a) thjere's nothing else and b) the fucktards can't believe nobody cares.
a111: Logged on 2017-07-04 03:05 asciilifeform: eventually provocation will work, trump will 'clintonize', i.e. connect himself with something 'uncontroversially' impeachable.
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2017/07/fiat-denominated-stocks-on-nyse-set-to-123-47-us-dollars/ << Qntra - Fiat Denominated Stocks On NYSE Set To 123.47 US Dollars
mircea_popescu: there's nothing fickler than the sentiments of the crowd. and yes the reversal is underway.
a111: Logged on 2016-10-20 20:40 asciilifeform: 'how many bugs shall we tolerate!?' 'seven!'
phf: as the fervor increasing there's a general loss of steam. how many misfires can these people afford?
phf: fwiw there's definitely a sentiment change. it's becoming fashionable to roll eyes at sjws at festivals and be secretly OK with trump.
asciilifeform: quite likely no presently sitting congresscritter would object to 4, 8, 44, 88 yrs of him.
mod6: cog in the wheel, aha
BingoBoingo: Timeline for Kennedying likely ends January 2021 when it would lead to 4 years of Pence, which is likely worst possible outcome for pantsuit
BingoBoingo: January 2019 Trump will likely be Nixon proof. Pantsuit will have to resort to Kennedy solutions. ☟︎
BingoBoingo: Meanwhile Trump appointees continue to increase as percentage of people arbitrating rules
BingoBoingo: What kind of glue do you have that resists razor knife?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: The state legislatures that make those rules mostly lean GOP over pantsuit, and rulemaking is a concern after 2020 census.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i expect that the number of rules by which 'pantsuit' crowd continues to play, such that they can lose, will grow smaller.
BingoBoingo: GOP has few Senate seats to defend in 2018, Pantsuit has many
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Because the fork in the GOP will likely be resolved in the primary season, and Pantsuit is set up to take massive losses in Senate. ☟︎
phf: asciilifeform: i periodically come back from the woods and marvel at the going ons
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> eventually provocation will work, trump will 'clintonize', i.e. connect himself with something 'uncontroversially' impeachable. << There's a deadline for provocation to work. 2018 mid term elections
asciilifeform: cocaine in toilet tanks, apparently, was a bit arduous, and called for at least a certain qty of actual cocaine to be tied up, if temporarily, in evidence lockers
asciilifeform: meanwhile, from same fishwrap, https://archive.is/7cEvZ >> 'A Current Affair reporter Ben McCormack has appeared in court for the first time since he was charged with child pornography offences.' << au competes with uk for 'who is premier anglo shithole'
asciilifeform: '"It's an exchange-side issue, where the Nasdaq disseminated bad data and traded corrupt messages to us during an exchange-side test of their systems," a Bloomberg spokeswoman told AFR, over the phone. ' didjaknow.
asciilifeform: in other unsurprises, 'Corrupt data that accidentally flowed out of a NASDAQ systems test caused the share prices...' ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: eventually provocation will work, trump will 'clintonize', i.e. connect himself with something 'uncontroversially' impeachable. ☟︎
a111: 2 results for "kick the dog till it bites", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=kick%20the%20dog%20till%20it%20bites
asciilifeform: !#s kick the dog till it bites
phf: with helpful pantsuit commentary in between the episodes
phf: it's a multi-series show that's being played back to back
asciilifeform: phf: matter of time.
phf: cnn at the airport are playing "special" on nixon impeachment. they are not even trying anymore
asciilifeform: ( though it ain't 7/4 in east gringolandia for another 3h )
shinohai: They had to put in their 2 cents!
mircea_popescu: people this stupid shouldn't be allowed to exist.
mircea_popescu: and the funny thing is, they earnestly imagines antyone would want to be their friend.
ben_vulpes: a merry occupation day to ye, ameritards
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: How Russian Hackers Stole the Nasdaq - Bloomberg: <https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-07-17/how-russian-hackers-stole-the-nasdaq>; Russian hackers infiltrated voter databases in dozens of states ...: <http://nypost.com/2017/06/13/russian-hackers-infiltrated-voter-databases-in-dozens-of-states/>; Russian hackers placed 'digital bomb' in Nasdaq - report - Jul. 17 ...: (1 more message)
mircea_popescu: !~google russian hackers did the nyse
mircea_popescu: (progressive, as opposed to classic, which doesn't exist because butt still sore)
asciilifeform: the 'unhappenings' will be a riot ( picture the autotrading derp demanding reversed tx , etc )
mircea_popescu: just think... one single guy making decisions! on his own! having authority!
mircea_popescu: obviously the presidency is a racist/rapist institution no longer adequate fopr the needs of ourdemocracy!
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2017/07/entertainment-today-pantsuit-legislators-propose-attacking-idea-of-presidency/ << Qntra - Entertainment Today: Pantsuit Legislators Propose Attacking Idea Of Presidency
asciilifeform: there is no possible counter to it, short of microshit introducing single-crystal comps ( was headed there, then mooreslaw croaked, now it is unlikely to ever happen )
asciilifeform: btw at some point somebody will ask, 'why not use existing gadget with dma, e.g. usb3, to diddle memory'. so answer, intel et al are implementing 'iommu', so that only nsa-approved diddles go through dma controller. plus os can see if it has usb3 etc hanging off
asciilifeform: it dun win much, though, linux is a hog
asciilifeform: if you know something about the page table, can sorta cheat
asciilifeform: ( and that was a toy box, with 1G !! )
asciilifeform: i had this , handmade and orcish, using sageprobe . but it took ~2h per bringup...
asciilifeform: the ultimate win, of course, is that it also gives you a pc that you can magic into a known state on demand.
asciilifeform: bonus if you have a cpu that lets you kill cache
asciilifeform: stick also sees the address and data lanes, so can also record all ram fetches ( such that don't hit the cache )
asciilifeform: no matter how crippled ( see amd thread from september )
asciilifeform: anyway for n00bz : a two-hole ram stick will give you snapshots of physical memory, incl. 'prohibited' (i.e. SMM) pages, undetectably to ring-whatever soft. and likewise write - gives you much of what debug probe gives, with the difference that cpu could not refuse
asciilifeform: will fail boot test, but you can't have everything!1
asciilifeform: ( cut the r/w track )
asciilifeform: lol mircea_popescu can make this with a sharp knife right now!1111
mircea_popescu: start with the true read only sticvk
asciilifeform: ( re pc vivisection : one item on asciilifeform's wish list, that does not currently exist : a doctored stick of sdram that can be read/written 'out of band', i.e. via another hole )
asciilifeform: still not quite pc bus speed. but massive improvement over the crapola that litters asciilifeform's bench, at least on paper.
asciilifeform: even claims to work in openbsd.
asciilifeform not yet tried