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danielpbarron: hah i was just thinking of doing that
danielpbarron: 11:29 <+decimation> I bet outlaw restaurants have good food too << reminds me of a place nearby that used to have great food until the owner got ousted for tax evasion; under new management the food sucks
Luke-Jr: BingoBoingo: problem is, I don't have any crops planted for them to eat yet, and the fence isn't really setup ideally yet
asciilifeform: i don't own any serious quantity of any kind of thing one might wake up in the morning and compulsively check the 'worth' of.
asciilifeform: PeterL: and i was here for some time prior to it
asciilifeform: PeterL: i do in theory, but it doesn't work yet
PeterL: asciilifeform: i don't own any bitcoin assets, incidentally. << what? I thought you were co-founder of S.NSA, you don't own any of it?
Luke-Jr: so I'd be giving them gas money to take mine with them or something
Luke-Jr: the reason I'd avoid a drive is that someone else in my area is picking up theirs
Luke-Jr: so I have less than 24 hours to decide whether to purchase an ewe & ram with the ability to avoid a 5 hour drive… any opinions? :p
gabriel_laddel: "nipping at your heels" was not the expression I wanted. something closer to "you can speak random alphanumeric strings at people and they'll nod and smile at you. speak in an angry tone and they'll frown and shake their heads, but this and 'liking' things is the extent of their expressive and intellectual capabilities"
BingoBoingo: decimation: I mean you don't feed cattle fresh salads, you feed them silage from the corn that was too useful for them to eat.
gabriel_laddel: I stand corrected.
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: can't find the naggum article I referenced earlier, but anyways yes - the process of choosing a hero in the USSA isn't by any stretch of imagination random.
kakobrekla: sorry, i go.
assbot: Logged on 18-09-2014 16:53:26; asciilifeform: xmj: if i knew, i'd become a sysadmin.
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: here's what i want out of life:
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: right, however I seem to recall some #b-a persons attempting to convince you to leave the us for an actual jungle.
asciilifeform: i'm already making it in a jungle. but a jungle with warm bed, good food, reasonable instrumentation, and opportunity for work that doesn't send me in search of a pistol to fellate
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: I'm not one of those attempting to get you to emigrate and make the cardano in a jungle or w/e.
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: i'm of the opinion that i, in particular, will die here in usa (and not of old age, either)
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: kk. I had somehow gotten the impression that you were of both opinions a & b, which I find odd.
asciilifeform: i don't own any bitcoin assets, incidentally.
asciilifeform: what do you imagine i do here in #b-a.
asciilifeform: networking with folks in other territories is, i think, a very good use of time.
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: i can't possibly say what is - or is not - worth your time.
asciilifeform: i watched it happen to both of my parents, when we emigrated
asciilifeform: i have no desire to be 19 again without any of the upsides.
asciilifeform: i get paid to work on interesting problems. and, like other people who do this, it happens by cultivating relationships with people who have these problems.
asciilifeform: except i don't go around asking to be paid to program.
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: well, yes. I simply do not program anything other than Common Lisp. but because I can do this at $mylocation doesn't mean that there doesn't exist a soul in e.g., Russia who would be willing to pay me to do it.
gabriel_laddel: decimation: lol if the US suddenly disappeared Israel would destroy its enemies << this is sorta the impression that I currently have.
asciilifeform: working on projects largely conceived of by self, with folks with whom i have a years-long business relation
asciilifeform: for instance, the unemployment rate for what i do, everywhere other than where i live, is 100%.
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: I'm not living among my own kind as it stands.
gabriel_laddel: cazalla: consider this a request for a qntra article entitled "the promised land" with exit points: Russia, Israel, Argentina & China weighing the relative tradeoffs of each with the angle that the US is going to fail. things I'm interested in knowing about each territory: character of the rule of law, taxes, status of the tech scene, character of the gov., description of major cities, # of nuclear reactors and thei
BingoBoingo: I dunno there real is a serious one. States are sluts. They all flirt with each other until someone gets the clap. Russia though does better business with Israel's neighbors.
BingoBoingo: gabriel_laddel: I mean South Africa and Rhodesia were Israeli allies at one point, but...
gabriel_laddel: BingoBoingo: hmmm. I don't know much about the situation there and will refrain from commenting on it.
asciilifeform: if it drops off the map, i vanish into the same sucking black hole as my neighbours.
asciilifeform: i'm a... sorta what naggum was.
asciilifeform: but i'm not a programmer.
BingoBoingo: decimation: That's the current strategy, but I'm tempted to take it to a jury next year finally
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: equipment can be replaced, in theory. i can't leave because i'm of no use to anyone elsewhere.
gabriel_laddel: BingoBoingo: everything I've got to my name fits in two bags. I understand that ascii can't leave because of equipment, but that isn't the situation for most people.
decimation: I doubt anyone will stop you if you just walk across the mighty Rio Grande
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: right. so what I'm driving at is that one must make that destination himself.
BingoBoingo: gabriel_laddel: I think you severely overestimate my USD denominated holdings
BingoBoingo: So I wait, plan
BingoBoingo: gabriel_laddel: I make efforts to acquire USD, but avoiding the honeytrap that is the drug business options are limited so I have a tent. Upon leaving with my budget first obstacle is the DEA's pet insecurity problem in Norther Mexico.
decimation: actually I wouldn't mind tollways if roads were fully privatized
PeterL: well, I only go up north
BingoBoingo: gabriel_laddel: A thing I am experiencing is when one rejects the local bezzel the local bezzel makes it hard to leave.
BingoBoingo: gabriel_laddel: I'm in the middle of the corral. As asciilifeform has mentioned earlier leaving is not easy.
gabriel_laddel: "no, baaah, not my laambs!" "I paid my baaah taxes!" *bleating continues*
gabriel_laddel: "noooo mr. ss man, I was baaaah, a good baaah bah baaah citizen baaaah baaah"
gabriel_laddel: "before 'the sheeple wake'" hmmm... I'm sorta under the impression that they're not ever going to wake. the thing with sheep is that they get tend to get slaughtered. after 5-10 years of living the life of American cattle the brain starts to deteriorate from lack of use. threaten them an all you get is pathetic bleating.
decimation: I bet outlaw restaurants have good food too
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: nah, all over the place. But I only ever compute in bed while sitting.
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: and when i want to turn over ?
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: for one thing, i refuse to use wireless keyboards.
decimation: I wish they made e-ink displays that updated at a reasonable frequency and were large
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: no! but i want to.
decimation: lol yeah I figured you would like that one
asciilifeform: 'Some immediately apparent disadvantages are: ... ... I cannot read in bed. The book-size portable terminal will come later. A household may require several terminals or perhaps we may have to compromise with sin and provide a hard copy terminal after all.'
decimation: asciilifeform: http://www-formal.stanford.edu/jmc/hoter.html << I was reading Herr McCarthy's 'dreams of the future' from 1970
gabriel_laddel: (re: Threaded Emacs, I've already walked that road - don't waste your time. Not going to happen and won't fix the underlying issues with Emacs anyways.)
decimation: I've definitely noticed that if I add external packages, it tends to make things very very slow
decimation: I have been using org-mode to keep track of things, it's okay
asciilifeform: generally i never notice anything about new emacs except that one or more of my many elisps pointlessly breaks
asciilifeform: so can't speak for other folks. but several people i've exposed to it are now habitual users.
asciilifeform: i've had the keys in muscle memory since i was 6 y.o. or so
asciilifeform: i own computers that do not run emacs,slime,cl.
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: i'm afraid not. you will have to investigate personally. i built my emacs some years ago, and thoroughly forgot.
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: if you've information contradicting the stackoverflow question in question please say so. I'm in the middle of building a non-retarted linux distribution and would like to have Emacs as battle ready as possible by default.
asciilifeform: i vaguely recall this
gabriel_laddel: this is the thread I was following up on http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=21-11-2014#930233 ☝︎
asciilifeform: i have no idea what that is.
asciilifeform: that 'toshiba' was as close as i ever got to perfect.
decimation: asciilifeform: every time I install rhel6 I have to spend 10 minutes de-poettering and de-gnoming it
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: I'm rather curious as to why you're fixing (for some value of that word - more akin to fixing up a corpse before burial, w/e) up a openbsd box when you've got your own gentoo 'fork'?
decimation: I can't keep the kde and gnome stuff straight
kakobrekla: i can dispose of that for a modest fee
kakobrekla: the idea it it wont, so he wont and i wont.
kakobrekla: i also hate people.
kakobrekla: i dont leave the house if i dont have to.
mike_c: i think he hates travelling.
kakobrekla: lol i dont mind the rally but has nothing to do with it :)
mike_c: i hear bitcoins in argentina are dirt cheap too
kakobrekla: no, i dont think so.
kakobrekla: -1.26, i wonder if this accounts for the general shit quality of miner hw
davout: i don't think address reuse enhances privacy either
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I've seen them just sitting and littering a yard. That's a use.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i only know of two uses - wagon, and breaking-on.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: You may interpret wagon wheel purchase however you like. I'll decline to offer the use case for such a versatile tool at the moment.
Luke-Jr: tbs, if thats MPs blog, I doubt it says anything sane
mats: i apologize for making this a topic of discussion
kakobrekla: <BingoBoingo> I'm not very sure a given homo sapien at random can cary on a conversation. < fixd
adlai: BingoBoingo: I'm not sure a given homo "sapien" at random can carry on a conversation, period :P
adlai: also "[adlai's dad] is one of the best drunk drivers I know" - one of his friends