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mircea_popescu: (and yes -- for girls it IS prostitution. works exactly like black girl booty shaking, if
there's music
they WILL move. which is how you get 12yos
throwing passes at all passers by.)
mircea_popescu: (note
that in gypsy culture it is not a qualification for
theft specifically. just independent operation, not being
too dumb
to live sorta
thing. not a bad
test for
that, as it
turns out.)
mircea_popescu: not really, because
the gypsies were/are serious about it. sort of like injun "totem animal"
thing
mircea_popescu: amusingly --
the chicken stealer (ro gainar, each language
that saw
them has its own word) is
the lowest level of gypsy male qualification. a sort of
transient baccalaureat if you will.
☟︎☟︎ trinque: hell I installed far less interesting items all over
the place in high school
mircea_popescu: in any case -- let
the fucking bureaucracy get back
to paper already, it's where it belongs.
mircea_popescu: obviously
the only end state of "man who bought himself wife he could afford money-wise but not really penis-wise" is ... yellow rabid jealousy.
mircea_popescu: for
the cheap added benefit of no further fucking wiki-reddit-washpo-whatevers.
mircea_popescu: none of
this nonsense is necessary ; just let go of
the notion
that dumb kid / arabic speaker / whoever on a stick may
touch a machine in his born days.
mircea_popescu: the other one is
that poisonous/poisoned minds end up dedicating
their
time
to navigating
the impedance mismatch. so you end up with nsa and "hackers" and "digital crimes" and what have you.
mircea_popescu: anyway,
there's
two problems with
the by-capital allocation. one is
that various lusers (microsoft, govt offices, hospitals, etc) end up buying computers
they can afford monetaerily, but can not afford intellectually.
then it's all "antivirus companies" and "hackers" and
their dumb, drunk-fucking mother on a stick.
mircea_popescu: currently
they're "selling" it by, iirc,
the half dollar. hence amazon and all
that cloudy bs.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform just
that -- have $100, get $100 worth of computer ; not have - not get.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: the contortions
they came up
to "justify"
the disconnect are also pretty lulzy. really, bitch, "silicon valley" ? "investors" ? what
the fuck else ? "univeresity grants for research" ? reheheheheally ?
mircea_popescu: anyway, let it be pointed out
that by-capital allocation of computing power is both a) immensely, ridiculously ineffectual and b) not really practiced, not even by
the "obviously right way" de facto proponents (usg)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform gotta decorporealize
teh hardware alfie.
mod6: mircea_popescu:
thanks for
the suggestion, I shall
think on it.
☟︎ mod6: Perhaps people can donate hardware for whatever purpose
trb, uci/gossip via deedbot;
then could be accounted for by some process while under our control; maybe even listed as "asset"?
mircea_popescu: let
the shepherd herd his sheep and make cheese out of
them. computers are for intelligent people and no one else.
mircea_popescu: certainly not in fucking usd ; but moreover - at all. hardware, much like cunt, belongs
to he who knows how
to use it well, not
to he who inherited a herd of sheep.
mircea_popescu: fact is : we will slowly and over
the years migrate
to a situation where control of hardware will not relate
to any sort of "paying for it".
mod6: Anyway, I
think
this might be a bit off-topic from
the original ; ``consider how
to accept hardware donations''.
mod6: That's fair in
the circumstance
that said dontation was made public, indeed.
trinque: guy can donate in public, and deem everyone sees he donated, and decide himself
to deduct
that from
tax
mod6: And I only use
the word "obligation" as
this is
the language of
the
taxation outline within
the DoS.
trinque: mod6: nope, was responding
to you
mod6: I'm not even sure
that Mr. P. suggested
that -- I only mentioned
that as it is yet undefined weather such donation is "obligation free for
the foundation". i.e. we hand back nothing in return.
trinque: mircea_popescu: meant
that
turning
the foundation into a
tax man with income
tax records seems wrong-headed
mod6: "com/deed/9ULZPc7yeZ9fQEA1aZ73H6mcv1s2C4gYFAbNTb5urovj ) as
the sole and complete public contribution
that may be required of him ;
that such payment satisfies
the
total burden of
taxation upon him, and no further payments may be required, in any form nor for any reason or under any
title or pretense, by anyone ;
that
the satisfaction of
this obligation is a moral requirement, and outside of
the oppinion of
mircea_popescu: it is, after all, how hot
topic / starbux / sephora / whatever ustard outlet even stays in business.
trinque: dunno
they're accurately
termed "obligations"
mod6: t of bot
that we have
to keep
track of such
things.
mod6: Perhaps, something could be devised, but it'd be a bit complex. As such, someone could "donate a node" in lieu or some credit
to
their yearly
taxation obligations, and
to receive such credit we would need
to have some basic requirements met. 1)
The node is running
trb. 2) It is "caught up". 3) Is available and connected for >95% of
the
time. 4) Can be independently checked/verified
that it is up by some sor
mircea_popescu: sooner or later
the republic will run hardware
that nobody can identify
the owner of.
a111: Logged on 2017-07-12 02:34 mircea_popescu:
they only get nsa-approved diddleware from privateinternetaccess.com
a111: Logged on 2017-07-12 02:36 mircea_popescu: ideally it could
take anonymous donations.
mircea_popescu: but yes, idiots with daddy's money can do stupid shit
thart doesn't even pay.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform
this is a poor indicator. ~nothing
the usg does pays.
a111: Logged on 2017-07-12 02:41 mircea_popescu: yeah, i don't have an obvious pill either. but for instance for running nodes ? what do you care if it's evil. doesn't pay
to evil.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> dba variously as usg's very own honeypot for cypher-dorks. << AHA, dedicated
Thermos sodomizer
trinque: gladly, can call it a donation
to
the foundation for sure.
trinque: as it stands I'm already
the host for
the
trb deps.
mircea_popescu: yeah, i don't have an obvious pill either. but for instance for running nodes ? what do you care if it's evil. doesn't pay
to evil.
☟︎ mod6: As far as production hardware, not sure how we could vet such an environment. But maybe I can just
think on
this a bit.
mod6: Perhaps for
test hardware if
they were in very good
trust standing,
they could send us keys
to a host we could use. Not sure otherwise how we would receive such hardware.
mod6: They, of course, need
to be in good WoT standing, etc.
mod6: It could be something along
the lines of how I've envisioned
the foundation mirrors. someone in L1 can start
their own after a discussion with either of us. could be similar maybe.
mod6: (fwiw, I have no clue how freenode does
this either)
mod6: Ok,
that'd be nice; especially if we can audit
the hardware somehow.
mircea_popescu: but
their being retarded doesn't mean we can't do it right.
mircea_popescu: mod6 incidentally, it occurs
to me : it might be a good idea for
the foundation
to have some kind of policy whereby people interested can donate servers ? exactly like freenode, in
theory, except
they fuck it up so uttertly in practice it's not even funny.
mod6: yah, seems
to output .dg files for each
mircea_popescu: is
this a reference
to
the "lady of pain" ruler of sigil ?
mircea_popescu: somehow
the dorks going on "nsa running out of moneyz!" never seem
to notice such points in
their expert analyseses. "dude, corp
that can stuff
the cpld like
that will NEVER run out of anything."
mircea_popescu: now
this is interesting.
there is no... state machine entropy
tester ? ynot!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes, as a practical matter. i was just discussing
the "must have buffer"
theoretical point.
shinohai: I'm in a state of
temporary retirement until market conditions improve.