spyked: mircea_popescu, dun think I've seen that one either. first somewhat "creepy" movie I've seen was Twin Peaks cca 1992. but not creepy in the horror sense, and I was 4yo at the time, didn't get much of what was happening.

spyked: mircea_popescu, didn't see it. but there don't seem to be any romanian names in the cast, so wtf. made me curious, adding it to the list.

spyked: mircea_popescu, word.

spyked: I'll leave this open for discussion for a coupla days or so. meanwhile any comments from other lisp bot operators ( ben_vulpes, lobbes, phf et al.) are muchly appreciated.

spyked: mircea_popescu, yeah, the example was only intended to give preview, re "what've you been doing all this time". btw, can unsubscribe using !F unsubscribe <link>. otherwise it'll send you messages after I figure out what's borken.

spyked: mircea_popescu, http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/R1NKS/?raw=true for example. lemme know if it breaks

spyked: mircea_popescu, no, not yet. it's next on the todo list. ☟︎

spyked: mircea_popescu, okay. the rss bot needs self-voicing, command prefixes et al., so it's eventually going to come further down in the tree, on top of them.

spyked: mircea_popescu, then if they're separate branches and if I want to make purely hypothetical spykedbot that does both? would end up with patch with two antecedents, should v press that? should I regrind?

spyked: mircea_popescu, but say I have a similar itcbot vtree, with logbot on top. then top of it I include trilemabot (handling self-voicing et al.), then on top of that rss bot. then if I want to use rss bot but not logbot (which don't depend on each other), how would I go about that?

spyked: mircea_popescu, then I dun understand why http://btcbase.org/patches?patchset=bot the disjoint graph on the right

spyked: mircea_popescu, lemme try to restate the thing as I see it. the rss bot doesn't make changes to ircbot, it's a new thing that uses ircbot as a dependency. so from this follows (in my mind, so pls to say if broken!) that the new thing will be a genesis.

spyked: mircea_popescu, the rss bot would branch the ircbot tree then. if trinque or mircea_popescu see any reason for adding rss bot on top of ircbot, I see no reason not to, but it would be disjoint item (i.e. only file changed would be manifest)

spyked: mircea_popescu, it is going to be separate item, but based on ircbot. can't be an extension of ircbot, for the same reason logbot can't be (some people might not wanna put a rsstron into their ircbot)

spyked: mircea_popescu, I ended up working on a couple of new ones. a. trilema spec subset and b. rss bot.

spyked: mircea_popescu, which "this"? my reading ircbot, or the implication regarding v?

spyked: mircea_popescu, yes

spyked: the reason I was first set off by mircea_popescu's question was that it led me to "what implication do lisp modules (packages?) have for v? is each module/package supposed to have its own v tree?"

spyked: but yes, I understand mircea_popescu now, thing is vaporware/non-existent until properly published and signed.

spyked: mircea_popescu, trinque, aha, now I get my miscommunication. but I confess to being confused by the "value for $x" question.

spyked: mircea_popescu, I admit some of my wording might be confusing, but I announced that in my report today. self-voicing is a prerequisite for rss bot, arising from http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-25#1818700 , so I'm implementing. how is this state switching? ☝︎

spyked: mircea_popescu, it can be used to implement self-voicing, but no, it doesn't implement that functionality itself.

spyked: mircea_popescu, in the same sense that logbot is a logging module for ircbot, yes. that would mean b (in the a, b, c above)

spyked: mircea_popescu, I'm not sure what you mean. lemme explain: the rss bot depends on ircbot and other pieces (some imported from heathenlands, some written by scratch from yours truly). from my reading so far, (e.g. diana_coman's use of MPI in Eucrypt) I dun see this as a strictly solved problem. I could a. make a new genesis consisting of ircbot + rss bot + all dependencies, or b. genesis rss bot alone (and mention ircbot + all others as

spyked: mircea_popescu, i haven't thought about that yet. but needless to say, the bot depends on many pieces that are not v-ified (and for that matter also does ircbot).

spyked: Mocky: methinks users should be able to talk to the bot via PM, e.g. to subscribe to feeds. the bot will permit "private" subscriptions too, iirc mircea_popescu uses this.