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ben_vulpes: i'm not arguing against parsing the blocks. it must verify the chain on download and be able to regurgitate the data on command. i suppose that i'm being too dense to grasp your meaning.
asciilifeform: in other words, everything that is a 'timeless' part of bitcoin - i.e. cannot ever change or hardfork - must be a working part of the client.
ben_vulpes: i'm circling around the notion that all bitcoin should do on the topic is vomit forth blocks on command, referenced by height. perhaps transactions, but i'm not even convinced about that.
ben_vulpes: i've used it to watch incoming blocks, but not suffering 6 month discontinuities.
ben_vulpes: that's why i'm suggesting that data analysis be not a part of bitcoin.
ben_vulpes: i'm currently of the opinion that providing a tube through which to suck the blockchain is accetable.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: arbitrary walks of blockchain data << i think that i disagree here.
asciilifeform: i'd say - entails being usable for any application pertaining to bitcoin whatsoever.
ben_vulpes: *i'm* interested..
asciilifeform: some folks i've introduced to herr naggum's writings turned their nose, mainly on account of these pieces
ben_vulpes: lo, i do quake!
cazalla: BingoBoingo, i was going to watch that yesterday, settled on dumb and dumber to, fell asleep from the sambuca and up at 430am given i nodded off early
adlai: ok, the orlov piece is good. i'll settle for equally obligatory.
BingoBoingo: "I keep seeing rabbits."
ben_vulpes: i don't know shit about shinola, though.
davout: guess i didn't see the spec
assbot: Logged on 01-12-2014 15:03:57; punkman: while we're on the topic, I want to make a service that fetches a URL, hashes contents, and then bundles and notarizes those. thoughts?
davout: i was thinking about it the other day, about how it might make sense to embed some variant of it in a smartphone photo app >> take a pic, boom proof of existence
ben_vulpes: well i'm going to try to sleep again
punkman: but I got other things to rage at
punkman: it might work if I start recompiling everything to cutting edge version
punkman: mplayer being retarded I guess
punkman: I hooked up debian box, mostly worked, except for HD video, or subtitles of course
punkman: jurov, I read Panasonic GPG signs firmware updates somewhere
punkman: too bad I can't ssh to it
adlai: you could just clone the damn thing, make me feel better when i obsess over my traffic stats
assbot: i got a chapstick that was on bargain but then I realize I don't have lips why did the freemarket betray me
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=inbread | A mispelling of the word "inbred". Yeah, I know, sad.
adlai: ok traders. pls, xmas is over, i want some volume now. thx.
adlai: this code isn't really used in scalpl yet, i'm kinda manually hacking together a shitty version of what this could eventually become
ben_vulpes: all i've read that you've written is scalpl
ben_vulpes: odds are better that i'm just a barbarian though
ben_vulpes: gave me the willies when first i looked at it
adlai: well damnit how am i supposed to get better
ben_vulpes: no thx, i've got other fishies to fry.
ben_vulpes: i'm aware.
adlai: one of the give-me-your-exchange-API-keys-and-i'll-make-you-money
ben_vulpes: i think i know the guy
adlai: pretty sure i glanced the peak for a sec there, but i'm rapidly descending. fuck.
adlai: now i'm in the weird position of being out of drugs, but the workday has just begun
adlai: for the record, i think that's a shame and a sin, and that y'all are a little silly for this - but that may be the guinness speaking, or jack, or johnny. who knows.
cazalla: given BingoBoingo posted in the original thread, i am inclined to think he responsible for said hijinxs :P
decimation: it's amusing to see an argument of the form "I'm doing action X which tends to result in Y, but only trolls would believe that I want the result Y because reason R"
Luke-Jr: and my point was that the trolls' claim is ridiculous, since I have no incentive to block gambling at all
kakobrekla: anyway, i would not really give away the addys. not because of the damage you couldnt do but i was saying it to point out its a battle against infinity.
kakobrekla: idk where i got that idea then.
kakobrekla: i thought you were blocking gambling stuff ?
Luke-Jr: wtf is bbet and why do I care?
Luke-Jr: no more "I have a good policy idea, but nobody will use it because I have 5 Mh/s"
kakobrekla: anyway i dont think most pool ops are capable of making political decisions or code changes
Luke-Jr: I'm certainly working on trying to make it easy though - see my CNodePolicy pull request
Luke-Jr: 0.10 will allow changing it, at least (I forget if it increased to 80)
Luke-Jr: kakobrekla: I think it's 40 in all released versions
kakobrekla: >I think OP_RETURN has shown itself to be seriously problematic; and we continue to have problems with people beleving that storing non-bitcoin related data in the chain (as opposed, e.g. to simple commitments or things like ECDH nonces) is an approved, correct, non-antisocial use of the system.
ELio19: umm, its pretty cool i guess
ELio19: Came to -otc in '12 ( i think )
ELio19: I'm a Cuban computer programmer.
ELio19: I thought my rate was pretty good, what do i need to get auto-voice?
mircea_popescu: incidentally, i've seen the prettiest black girl i ever saw.
mircea_popescu: "i know how you niggars are about paying debts" lol
kakobrekla: jurov actually i did it yest, a bunch of old computer stuff which cant be disposed in a home dumpster
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: i guess we do need some X-Mas day content.
kakobrekla: go away i got more trash.
ben_vulpes: anyways can i do ya for anything else before emptying the dog's tanks?
mircea_popescu: i mean communist.
mircea_popescu: i was thinking more of gluten
ben_vulpes: http://runnahgirl.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/cartman-i-do-what-I-want.jpg
ben_vulpes: (slander, i'm sure)
kakobrekla: well i see them here on sundays ?
kakobrekla: too bad christmas isnt more often. now that chan is dead i finally got some real work done.
gribble: sexy_saffron was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 21 weeks, 4 days, 22 hours, 28 minutes, and 2 seconds ago: <sexy_saffron> I really like how my picture turned out :)
mircea_popescu: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8795280 << i lol'd but somehow dun think it's her
thestringpuller: http://i.imgur.com/vP2zH8g.jpg << bitcoins not bombs ppl
jurov: "I am sorry that I had such a bad experience with your community but I am being extremely negatively affected as a result." lolwut
dignork: BingoBoingo: even though giving private key is a stupid way to do it (you can prove the same by signature), normally I wouldn't care about leaked privkey, which ideally was used only once. Unless the key is also used for gribble, but then, who would use non-random key for grubble auth. Where do you see the problem?
BingoBoingo: Yeah, almost sucks as much as the Schilbach wallet which I can not yet evaluate
cazalla: i vaguely remember clams being discussed before but did not know finer details until decided to check just-dice out again
cazalla: the fuck is this clams bullshit on just-dice, they really expect i will send them btc private key to claim clams?
BingoBoingo: OMG I never new startup vultures wer so self promoting on twitter https://twitter.com/BBoingo/status/548014069492752384
BingoBoingo: I have no BTC on there at the moment. I can't even create a backup of my wallet file.
xanthyos: i thought none of the android app wallets were safe. are you just testing it with a small amount?
BingoBoingo: So I apparently have an Android phone, but it is a shitty prepaid burner deal which is a plus. On the downside I am just now discovering all of the ways the Schildbach wallet sucks.
xanthyos: bitcoin is 322.23 and iirc captain kirk's birthday is 3/22/2233 and i've had some whiskey so i'm gonna buy some coinbase now for realz
decimation: I guess pretty paranoid is the answer ;(
ben_vulpes: follow BingoBoingo's link? read logs? i don't know that she did/does either.
Adlai: but i guess butts get hurt sometimes
decimation: I guess we know what she thinks about her customers
decimation: I'm thinking of bitcoin, but any currency that is finite would suffice
decimation: (I've been reading that slatestarcodex link)
mats: i hate you
asciilifeform: finally i arrived at an answer
asciilifeform: every day i wonder why the 'arm' architecture so thoroughly beat 'mips' (closest competitor in the 'risc' world) in the markets ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: i'll point out that the complexity of the designs, which makes straight plagiarism so irresistible to the asians, doesn't happen in a vacuum.
decimation: I guess he's getting paid to hustle for his usg masters
asciilifeform: for which, i will point out, no practical substitutes are known or, afaik, even contemplated anywhere.
decimation: as I recall, the guy claimed that most of the high-end fabs use cadence tools
asciilifeform: i.e. to prevent you from curing the ethernet card.
decimation: lol I didn't realize they had 'trialware' like that
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: i made an app, called the asciilifeform turd counter
decimation: I've heard from folks who have that it is a pain in the ass