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floog: okay, that makes a lot more sense now
asciilifeform: ( exercise for reader: prove that 'factorials.txt' will consist %% of late 0s. what is %% ? and is it independent of base ? )
asciilifeform: gonna snip the 0s or not ?
mircea_popescu: that "abstract art" work we shall call the colors of factorial.
mircea_popescu: lettuce create a bitmap image 1024px wide, 32 bit color depth, so that each factorial is followed by a white line, and each pixel from left to right contains 3 bytes of data.
mircea_popescu: actually, let's save on teh upload and tell you the plan :
asciilifeform: 'we dunno WHY you asked for 9,000 defective transistors, but for your convenience we have packaged them here separately!'
asciilifeform: ( folx who followed the stirling thread, should not be surprised )
floog: ill take a look
mircea_popescu: how's the sv scene ?
daffadil: "Friendship" is just a transient software patch that we install on one another.
asciilifeform: probably best, to date, n00b tutorial on subj
BingoBoingo: To be fair, V is the premier tool for anti-social networking
floog: im trying to understand the purpose of V.from the python code it seems like some sort of interpersonal network tool, but that's about as far as i've been able to get
floog: some dude who found your blog and found the conversation interesting enough to lurk
mircea_popescu: impotence is teh least racist of all!
mircea_popescu: well jhvh1 look into the official coindash slack channel then
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this is actually true in their case.
asciilifeform: best part : 'In the official Coindash Slack channel, the app's developers wrote that all investors, even if they sent funds to the phony address, will receive tokens. "All CoinDash investors will get their tokens," the developers wrote in Slack. "We are working to solve the situation."'
mircea_popescu: outbrain eagerly awaits the brainchild of mit, or, to quote, "She does stink. And she should quit. But I don't want it to be because of me. It should be the traditional route. Years of rejection and failure until she's spit out the bottom of the porn industry."
asciilifeform: nor is there such a thing as a signature
mircea_popescu: next step on ethereum's fascinating journey being "the one weird trick hacker used to make 74 trillion"
shinohai: https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/zmvg58/hacker-allegedly-steals-dollar74-million-in-ethereum-with-incredibly-simple-trick <<< This is so hilarious I almost wrote it up ....
mircea_popescu: still wheelin' an' dealin' teh blockchain seas ?
mircea_popescu: how's "the toomim brothers" doing these days ? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: and if it doesn't work, it'll just be case #517 or whatever the count is at of self important ustard dorks.
mircea_popescu: so let them. if it works we needed a new bitcoin anyway.
user705: true but they certainly can try to cut off the nose to spite the face so to speak
mircea_popescu: bitmain can either make bitcoin miners or not make bitcoin miners. this isn't evben a choice -- for as long as they can they'll make, and once they become irrelevant they won't make. whether they also whine with it or not... who cares.
mircea_popescu: and not because it would be racist to try ; but because they are impotent.
user705: Bitmain seemed pretty serious with it's footstomping though
mircea_popescu: but they, both joint and several, can't possibly influence the world.
mircea_popescu: jane reddit may care, or at the least pretend to care what bitcoin client joe reddit uses, in obvious exchange of joe reddit pretending to care about "that one time she was almost raped".
mircea_popescu: but at any event -- i do not care what bitcoin client joe reddit "uses". he has no money in the first place ; and even if he had money he has nothing interesting to do with them. sloshing the payola back and forth from one usg pocket to another is scarcely worth wasting paper, let alone bitcoin ledger.
mircea_popescu: mahahahaybe a few of them will actually manage to find a job instead of dicking around online, but it seems unlikely. who wants to employ an idle ustard and what useful could they do ?
mircea_popescu: far as i can tell, people who can't retain employment will whine about it for the next two weeks as if it were a thing, then the date will come, nothing whatsoewver will happebn, and they'll just move on to whining about some other pie in the sky
user705: how would the endgame unfold? this "soft" fork will just become a hard fork. right or how would it unwind?
mircea_popescu: i thought wediditreddit was ~weekly eveny anyway, in their own little cesspool.
asciilifeform: nothing observable to ~people~ -- i.e. folx using trb -- yes. to redditus running gavincoin etc - thermonukokalypse
user705: so with bigger blocks vs smaller blocks the clusterfuck will be epic
mircea_popescu: so, ample opportunity for the entrepreneurial -- start a pool that's not a scam, if all others are, or you perceive they might be.
user705: to the pool then on to individual miners
mircea_popescu: at least afaik they've not yet built up the cheek to pretend to change that part.
mircea_popescu: i'm not sure what you're asking. if i send a bitcoin to someone, no third party can do anything to it.
user705: unfortunately true. have to work hard to change. mining now is an unprofitable venture. but with this fork would coinbase transactions be impacted? no right? but pools would pay out from that so how would it work when it all unwinds?
mircea_popescu: well, "social media". usg's astroturf for its own sheeple. much like you know, the notion that "embargo of russia" or "recapture of mosul -- two weeks starting in 2016", the sort of ideas with no further substance than "i really watch too much tv"
mircea_popescu: the notion that 1 august bears any relevancy is entirely borne out of spending too much time on social media.
mircea_popescu: user705 you would mine then as you mine now. if you're pool mining, select a pool that isn't scamming you then , just as you would now.
user705: how would one mine on the correct chain or would it not be possible because of pools?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i was thinking, at some point really gotta write up the luby-pow thing into a proper algo
a111: Logged on 2015-12-28 18:09 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-12-2015#1355361 << quite. all this verbiage about how "oh lalala, if miners stop enforcing X fork they will be excluded" fails to account for the fact that unlike the various PRBs, TRB does NOT actually implement any of the soft forks. so no, they won't be "excluded". nobody will notice they stopped.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2015-12-28#1355445 << see also thread. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: all soft forks are temporary ; and WILL be unwound.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the paradigmatic "soft fork" is "we will not mine transactions involving 1Terrorists address". permitting any other one is simply going towards this at whatever pace and from whatever distance.
whaack: the idea that segwit is safer because it is a "soft fork" is nonsense. during a hard fork one can vote with their coins. soft forks are a sneak attack to add a new rule on the part of the miners.
mircea_popescu: sanity apparently doesn't hold up well to insistent stupidity.
mircea_popescu: kinda why the entire fake media exists in the first place.
user705: the instinctual understanding is that hardfork is obviously bad but the way this new softfork was being sold I guess I got bamboozled a bit
BingoBoingo: Hence going all the way back to 2013 scammer Luke-jr
BingoBoingo: Ah, then perhaps read older Qntra too? Not much has changed since 2015. Enemies of Bitcoin simply cycling through new names as old ones burn credibility
user705: that's why I decided to finally go to the source
mircea_popescu: just the periodic herd wank on turner's captive cow sites.
mircea_popescu: nor has the matter been seriously considered by actual thinkers.
asciilifeform: i suspect that it is The Right Thing.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> very acultural world, this anglotardlandia. << AHA, not even AGRIcultural anymore
mircea_popescu: not a half bad idea at that.
asciilifeform reread the piece and ended up in the old luby thread, lol
mircea_popescu: inexplicably, as the dorks made a lot of noise about it then and have studiously pretended to have forgotten all about it ever since, as if that's how this works now.
user705: hmm I read a lot of trilemma must've missed that one
mircea_popescu: no fork will succeed that does not satisfy that.
mircea_popescu: let's approach the easier end of this. the necessary precondition for any fork succieeding on the bitcoin network was set forth last year : http://trilema.com/2016/the-necessary-prerequisite-for-any-change-to-the-bitcoin-protocol/ ☟︎
user705: is that still considered to be a block size increase and therefore will lead to a lot of pain for many?
user705: but what is your view on just the segwit part?
user705: the hard fork that was proposed by idiots who claimed to be the economic majority but forgot to sign their BTC balances to actually prove that is obviously a non starter
mircea_popescu: you'll have to unwrap that into something that makes sense. say what ?
user705: is your view on the segwit lite that seems to be bandied about as the solution same as segwit2x which is just outright wrong?
user705: what be the proper way to ask questions
user705: cool pop in here for first time and MP is here
mircea_popescu: consider though, how easily it flips on its head. mp recommends blogging, which was fashionable like cameraing was at some point, but no longer. and "you can't film everything stays the same", and "but the noise is distracting" morphs into "but i am afraid my well hidden shortcvomings which nobody can otherwise observe may be exposed" and who's teh anticultural nao.
mircea_popescu: it is STILL the fundamental anticultural agency.
mircea_popescu: ironically -- me :) but that's a different story.
asciilifeform: dunno if today you can buy even electric mop without a camera.
asciilifeform: i dungetit, people tripped over each other's heads in the hurry to buy cameras for bedroom, toilet, etc
mircea_popescu: "but you can't film everything" "of course not" "the noise is distracting" "Youi'll get used to it" "but why!" "you'll see."
mircea_popescu: sure, culture is not intended to be either a prison or an answer (these haven't yet been unglued). nevertheless, the young man who does not understand why have cameras in the bedroom when mirrors suffice is the fundamental anticultural agent.
a111: Logged on 2016-01-21 19:49 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: when i was a small boy, my elder brother taught me a lesson once:
asciilifeform: ( the endgame of this method, of course, is illustrated here -- http://btcbase.org/log/2016-01-21#1380077 ) ☝︎
asciilifeform: you can do almost anything via lookup table.
mircea_popescu: actually used to exist.
asciilifeform: addition table!111
mircea_popescu: bs "what is the point of star maps, you can just look out the window".
mircea_popescu: anyway, for the record, "oh, and what is the use of storing 500mb when i can calculate this in seconds" : because, dumbass, you might want as we wanted TO HAVE SOMETHING TO COMPARE YOUR CALCULATIONS TO.
mircea_popescu: so like a sex tape
asciilifeform: this thing promises to be north of 500MB when done
mircea_popescu: very acultural world, this anglotardlandia.
asciilifeform: yeah i went to look for one the other day and headache
mircea_popescu: "really ? factorial table ?" "no i meant, fanfic about simpson episodes" "ah ok then"
asciilifeform: i suppose we post times-tables next....
mircea_popescu: either should be fine. hex less space, decimal easier for total noobs.
asciilifeform: ( anybody got a, e.g., mips64, that ain't otherwise booked ?? )