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scoopbot: Yeah, I don't like pete_dushenski much.

decimation: I think it is, they tried to open a shop in wash dc

mircea_popescu: decimation i thought that was a san francisco outfit.

mircea_popescu: i bought myself all sorts of excellent cheeses today, from this very competent deli

mircea_popescu: i have a great plan. and if it doesn't work, that's ok.

asciilifeform: incidentally, if these are also to function as 'wallets'... i haven't any notion of whether, e.g., 'pogo', even has an rng.

mircea_popescu: i mean osx level of coherence.

mircea_popescu: and mind you that i do NOT mean linux level of coherence.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i really never looked at anything they pushed out after the hearn fork.

asciilifeform: i have a 0.8 node that does crash quarterly or so. bitcoin-msghand[15569]: segfault at 0 ip 0000000000blahblah sp 0000blahblahblah error 4 in bitcoind[400000+303000] ☟︎☟︎

mod6: but, this is 10% of the memory i'm used to runing with

mircea_popescu: i think it's more in the 230k ish range that there's some large reorgs

mod6: typically i see my first crash around 180k

mod6: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=U75B7820

mod6: and so should you. I'll be tabling that, updating the "Patch guide" and pulling the tarball with that patch down from the website as soon as my other vm hits current block.

mod6: in my most recent regression tests ( this past week, i've been leaving out the rm_checkpoints patch )

asciilifeform: mod6: i picked up the sata-enabled 'pogo', will devote an hour or two to giving it a shot this weekend.

ben_vulpes: i'm not entirely up to date on the thread, asciilifeform

asciilifeform: mod6, ben_vulpes: as i understand, if the hypothetical node has a working oomkill mechanism, it will - mostly - run without intervention

mod6: i'll put it on the list here...

asciilifeform: again, i have not tried these machines.

jurov: rumor has it that it has even slower i/o

asciilifeform: jurov: not certain, as i've not tested it. but rpi had an uncommonly slow usb controller.

asciilifeform: so far, as i understand, the hardware is a loss-leader.

Apocalyptic: alright, from what I got so far the ODROID-U2 looks decent, with a Cortex-A9 though

asciilifeform: Apocalyptic: can't say from memory alone, i'm not an arm aficionado

ben_vulpes: how'd i get almost 800 lines behind in one day!?

asciilifeform: it also appears to be out of production. but i distinctly recall seeing similar gadgets advertised.

mod6: well, i could be wrong. i just saw a thing where they were telling some guy running a way forward version that he should add more swap or some such nonsense. but yeah... so it's been in there for a while.

PeterL: pete_dushenski I tried to put in a fix to scoopbot, he should respond to your blog now, let me know the next time you post something

mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski lol. im no local expert, i onlybeen here like a year.

kakobrekla: .8x where x i dont recall atm

kakobrekla: mircea_popescu i cant run .7 for more than a day on system x, runs .8 endlessly

mod6: yeah, i've read on place that they have this leakyness -- crashing problem all the way up to .9

mod6: a few days ago, I had been looking mapOrphanBlocks as a possible reason that it runs itself out of ram as this structure goes unchecked in size in v0.5.3 -- when I was at ~180,000 blocks, these are the stats that I had built up so far:

nubbins`: that's what i meant

mircea_popescu: when i said "it'll run" i meant smething like that.

kakobrekla: nubbins` thats what i did.

undata: hah, I had munin on a micro and it'd help take down the instance

kakobrekla: recall the munin charts i posted

nubbins`: well i mean

mod6: i've got a buddy running it on an aws micro with like 600Mb and it's working, but it runs itself out of ram like 1x per hour.

kakobrekla: not in present chicken state but dont mind me what do i know

mircea_popescu: i dun think so. 256mb will prolly do it, if slowly.

mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski iirc, namjies and i dun recall who else had it before

mike_c: i want to say namworld, but not sure

mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> not require carpentry << replacing the soldered-in flash i can see, with the user's choice : 64, 128, we. but other than that, ideally nothing

nubbins`: i'd front some $$ to get it going as well

pete_dushenski: i wonder if jurov would sell coinroll ?

mircea_popescu: <nubbins`> straight-up, there's an opportunity to make money selling plug-n-play nodes << there is. i'd advertise it.

asciilifeform: undata: i have a number of them, for various experiments

asciilifeform: nubbins`: i have 'openbsd' on one of these. also a little sluggish, though not as dreadful as 'raspberry'

nubbins`: hm, i may try this

pete_dushenski: now i wonder who's behind it

mike_c: yeah. what a money spout that thing was. i miss it.

pete_dushenski: i was thinking that someone in the wot needs to get a dice site going and i was going to see if j-d was in need of a new owner but it looks like it's still running?

asciilifeform: nubbins`: they used a defective i/o chip, which is abominably slow

mircea_popescu: nope. i was trying to shoehorn into your recent research.

mircea_popescu: i just want a single item containing absolutely 100% everything that is needed, with no references.

nubbins`: "The battery just died in my camera, so i am taking a quick break"

asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: glad you enjoyed the articles. i actually have a new one in the works, but - no time presently to finish it.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'm not certain, however, that 'edgerouter' would be the optimal candidate for the mega-cheap node. the device itself is around 100 usd, and a decently large flash drive is yet again a quarter of that.

asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: i generally don't write the kind of article that doesn't require at least a full day's concentration.

mircea_popescu: http://qntra.net/2015/01/bitcoin-finance-in-2014/ << i thought this was pretty great writing from mike_c

mircea_popescu: what can i tell ye.

davout: http://i.imgur.com/eAGlewn.png

nijotz: I'll have to look into this web of trust rating

BingoBoingo: I'm telling you the better version of this scam would be an artisan laser etching booth with a placebo joystick.

davout: i can taste the absurd

mircea_popescu: "I NEVER SAID THAT IT WAS FROM MY OWN MIND, I HAVE ALREADY SAID THAT I USED STOCK IMAGES ON SOME OF THE PIECES. that is not a crime, i own the rights to them. 70% of your metal coins on the forum have stock image elements on them. Better start a dozen more witch hunts."

Apocalyptic: davout, I've seen him idling in #bitcoin recently

nubbins`: "I dont have a youtube account. Well, didnt have a youtube account. With new accounts you can only upload 10 minute videos i just found out. My DSLR camcorder records 20 minutes of video at a time."

davout: nubbins`: i'll just post that in #bitcointalk-staff

mircea_popescu: i mean, i like spolsky and errything. but...

mircea_popescu: maybe i'm not all together, but... what the fuck does stackexchange need 40mn for ?

assbot: Logged on 22-01-2015 20:46:00; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ... if anyone could be arsed to publish a guide on 'how to turn commercially available router into btc full node' << the gadget i mentioned earlier, plus process, only need a larger - 64G+ - usb drive, to make this go. but i did not publish instructions, because did not think anyone wanted this.

ben_vulpes: no i get the history and the technology, asshats.

ben_vulpes: <davout> [] https://twitter.com/OtaK_/status/558321238230462464 <<< this replace-pronouns twitter butthurt flow seems to be attracting a whole new level of stupid << i don't get the 140 character

ben_vulpes: it's like one of those "so bad its good" things but it's more like "so pissed at computers i've now got ptsd and 'shall we over the trenches for fun tonight fellas?'"

kakobrekla: i would just take the last line of the last bash

ben_vulpes: i'm cut all the way over to gleeful wanton murder today

ben_vulpes: i can just imagine them frolicking squealing naked through the woods

mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes tell the sluts if they do this to you again i will hunt them down.

mircea_popescu: lobbes: I'm glad I discovered this place, man. Otherwise I would have been led off the cliff a long time ago << yer welcome.

ben_vulpes: no i'm not waking up late

jurov: yes, i'm curious :)

jurov: i'm havin'it

mircea_popescu: jurov i dun recall, what's that reference ?

mircea_popescu: *: danielpbarron seriously doubts it will be on freenode in 20 years, or if there will even be a freenode << as far as freenode is concenred, i am agreed. however, b-a is 4ever!

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i guess no good reason.

assbot: Data since Jan 21 21:44 UTC will not be automatically recovered, though if anything important was lost, I might be able to find it manually.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ... i have a coupla derps im paying via bitpay << lol!! srsly ? in usa, no less?

mircea_popescu: kakobrekla: i think i just blown my retard-o-meter << who's "kristo atlas" again ? not the actual atlas ?!

mircea_popescu: backup plans never hurt. once they go "well wtf we do nao, we don't want to lose your $xxxx" i just go "use this" and end of story.

kakobrekla: i kno

davout: kakobrekla: i can't america, because fatca