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asciilifeform: in so far as i can tell, none of these items have anything to do with even kochian pgp
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: is it working as intended, or is the result trb-like ( 'life support patient' ) ?
asciilifeform: in this case the obstacle was, likely, 'operation that crashes the proggy'. to imbecile such as shitoshi, the answer is naturally 'put it in infinitely respawning thread'
mircea_popescu: yes, but rather than have an a-b-c threaded thing where if b dies a immediately follows, you might as well have a cleanner and neater abc.
mircea_popescu: same discussion as http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-09#1723312 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: orlando, florida co. and exactly biofilm not dc, as a separate concern.
spyked: mircea_popescu, re comment, had no idea this happened. I'll admit I haven't followed him (digested a few, such as the "ma fut in ea de ploaie" piece), so will review.
mircea_popescu: he's perhaps the best example in this vein, even if not as well known as say MGM cartoon division.
a111: Logged on 2017-10-09 02:03 mircea_popescu: i confess i tried to introduce `tickmarks into my process as such, but it ends up ~looking~ fucking retarded. i'm not even know if it just looks that way but isn't, or actually is. huge inertia against it though.
a111: Logged on 2017-10-09 05:01 mircea_popescu: "when my wife saw how many bottles of wine i bought for new year's, she bid me take them to the bathroom and dump them down the drain. i did as she said, because the wife is that person one shares with all life's happiness and unhappines. and sadness. and misfortune. and catastrophe. and all other disasters that wouldn't have happened had one not married."
mircea_popescu: as phf says, "from first principles".
mircea_popescu: as opposed to "i suck so much, they keep bumping me to various projects"
ben_vulpes: as opposed to?
mircea_popescu: "when my wife saw how many bottles of wine i bought for new year's, she bid me take them to the bathroom and dump them down the drain. i did as she said, because the wife is that person one shares with all life's happiness and unhappines. and sadness. and misfortune. and catastrophe. and all other disasters that wouldn't have happened had one not married." ☟︎
mircea_popescu: much much more vulnerable to trump than the liberal "endowments" ie hedge funds masquerading as universities.
mircea_popescu: iirc, they've all been struggling for economic relevancy in the past decade, if this even vaguely proves itself as a mass movement the whole shitshow's canned overnight.
BingoBoingo: Oh, the sportsball players didn't stand for the song of country before game in protest of "Police r mean to us black folk" as they had been for the last couple weeks. Mike Pence went to game and left before it started.
mircea_popescu: "protector" of youth that sees no problem as long as the cumguzzler is black etc.
mircea_popescu: it's really hard not to like the chinese, try as one might.
mircea_popescu: and if it gets cut, the logparser sure as fuck has no way to fix it now.
mircea_popescu: ager appealing just as i find an <a href=http://trilema.com/2017/little-miss-pretty/#selection-247.0-251.710>oversubmissive</a> overinnocent lawyer appealing."
mircea_popescu: i imagine the sane way to represent "outlyers are interesting. i find an `overcompetent:http://trilema.com/2013/whore-strat/ teenager appealing just as i find an `oversubmissive:http://trilema.com/2017/little-miss-pretty/#selection-247.0-251.710 `overinnocent lawyer appealing." in html is via the usual anchor mechanism, as "outlyers are interesting. i find an <a href=http://trilema.com/2013/whore-strat/>overcompetent</a> teen
asciilifeform: aah as in old l0gz
mircea_popescu: however, as a chat anchoring convention i could actually get myself to do it, as that's 99% of what i wish i could do and currently can't, frustrates me once a week with some regularity.
mircea_popescu: i confess i tried to introduce `tickmarks into my process as such, but it ends up ~looking~ fucking retarded. i'm not even know if it just looks that way but isn't, or actually is. huge inertia against it though. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: outlyers are interesting. i find an `overcompetent:http://trilema.com/2013/whore-strat/ teenager appealing just as i find an `oversubmissive:http://trilema.com/2017/little-miss-pretty/#selection-247.0-251.710 `overinnocent lawyer appealing.
a111: Logged on 2017-10-08 18:17 apeloyee: compute the higher part of product X*Y as XHi*YHi+ShiftRight(XLo*YHi+XHi*YLo, K), where K is size of XLo and YLo
a111: Logged on 2017-08-01 17:22 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-01#1691747 << this almost suffices to qualify as crane operator!111
apeloyee: as usual, if primitives don't leak- this won't leak anything but the small primes. this is obvious. or are we doing associativity proof in peano arithmetic or other hair-shirt arcana (c)
asciilifeform: not to mention that we do not have such a thing as a small integer.
asciilifeform: same as adder, etc.
asciilifeform: (i.e. you still win if you take 500x the cpu cycles, so long as you don't get cache-evicted)
asciilifeform: fall of rsa is roughly same item as 'global warming'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if it were physically possible as the sole primality test, we'd all use.
mircea_popescu: well, so defined it must gcd as primality test.
asciilifeform: ^ to rephrase, we don't actually know if hard problems exist as a hard law of nature.
mircea_popescu: if your expectation is that the fifth attempt did not resolve the problem in a manner such as the fifth million would, there's deeper problems.
asciilifeform: where P has same bitness as R.
asciilifeform: ( i.e. i regard the proof behind strength of the probabilistic ver, as fundamentally stronger than the other's )
mircea_popescu: as per the ancient "doctor, random things in the house are talking to me, am i losing it ?" "have you started answering ?" "not yet" "then not yet"
mircea_popescu: incidentally, since we're on m-r : do we actually pick 4096 bit bases to avoid the arnault number problem ? to leverage the ffa flatness, as in http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-07#1722376 ? ☝︎
apeloyee: if you have N ffa-eligible tests, bailing early out after one of them failed is not a problem.as per above.
asciilifeform: same method as constant gcd.
mircea_popescu: apeloyee no, because as he well points out, the time it takes is not unrelated to the key.
mircea_popescu: so this is more a r-m problem altogether. as that's not linear.
apeloyee: on a different topic, http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-08#1722429 and http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-05#1721484 seem to contradict each other. what's an initial sieve for if the algo must run in fixed time? i've interpreted it as "successful test must run in fixed time, failures can be variable-time", and make proposal accordingly. ☝︎☝︎
asciilifeform: ( as in above case with knuth divider )
apeloyee: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-07#1722397 << I was unclear. Let A be the number to be reduced mod N, R the approximate reciprocal, K the ffa bitness fitting the modulus, then we know that 0<A - N*floor(A*R/4^K) < 2*N <2^(K+1). So might as well calculate A - N*floor(A*R/4^K) modulo 2^(K+1). ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-10-07 00:38 asciilifeform: mod6: you will notice that the barrett in 'crc handbook' is more complicated : it shrinks the x and then compensates later. this relies on normalization , and constanttimeized incarnation of it would have to work as apeloyee described ( i'ma try it much later, once i see what can be had re speed strictly from having asymmetric karatsuba instead of the current mega-waste )
apeloyee: compute the higher part of product X*Y as XHi*YHi+ShiftRight(XLo*YHi+XHi*YLo, K), where K is size of XLo and YLo ☟︎
trinque: that'll change, but as part of limiting the thing to this channel only
mircea_popescu: i don't think such a thing as randfomly polarized female wave ever existed or ever could exist.
asciilifeform: in tito's case , and for that matter kim ir sen's -- 'throne is mine, i won it as partizan commander in the war, took no payola from foreign devils' was tru. but how did the shoemaker get ~his~ throne
mircea_popescu: something. consider actual live events : gorbachev says at the meeting, once they move on past his insistence on having visited the pope as if anyone gave a shit about that "we are all here, who were implicated in the czech affair, except romania, that had exited then".
mircea_popescu: guy never saw himself as much more of a su ally than saudis see themselves us allies i dun suspect.
mircea_popescu: and he also wasn't impressed with gorbachev;s verbiage as to "disarmament", seeing how romania was spending about 3% of pib on arms in the 85-90 5year plan, whereas ussr had never went under 30% yet.
mircea_popescu: this was reported (via the entirely irrelevant "sources" of talbot, beshloss & co) as "the agitation of stalinist tirant" at warsaw, "unhappy with the us-euro offensive to liquidate communism".
mircea_popescu: anyway, there's a pile of disinfo and general crap surrounding the events. as an example : on 2-3 dec gorbachev hung out with bush on a soviet ship. on 4th, there was the wasaw pact meeting. gorbachev was well excited of whatever, the new bulgarian (mladenov, his college pal) and generally the western press coverage.
mircea_popescu: romanian is read as written!
mircea_popescu: phf if you had a blog and time you could sit down to do the whole discussion of that so as to inform future policymaking above and beyond simple amoebic continuation.
phf: fwiw all our production lisp runs on sbcl, including btcbase. as much as i'm pimping cmucl, it's not "modern" enough to host a website on unix. i still think it's a better target for a hypothetical on the iron common lisp
spyked: anyway, I have much of Scheme in head. I'm looking at tinyscheme mostly to figure out what "subset of r5rs" they've implemented. though I'm expecting tinyscheme subset isn't necessarily the same as tmsr-needed subset.
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-05#1720982 <-- considering this as a "learn Ada" project. will share code once I have minimum item worth of showing (processing r5rs and tinyscheme meanwhile) ☝︎
mircea_popescu: and for that matter rife, as in "rife with fleas" is how english says "full of low hanging fruit".
mircea_popescu: spyked ok, but there's no such thing as "ripe with".
spyked liked ripe moar. as in, full of low-hanging fruit
mircea_popescu: phf i see the same ip as you do.
phf: nope, it was started by john tye, https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/08/meet-john-tye-the-kinder-gentler-and-by-the-book-whistleblower/. i suppose he should be classified as a chair shuffler
mircea_popescu: spyked such as in eg http://trilema.com/2011/sa-ne-agitam-putin-pe-tema-notatiei-limbii-romane and etc yes.
a111: Logged on 2017-10-01 04:06 mircea_popescu: "If pet food companies used the same business model as startups: Jim creates a dog food factory and gives away dog food for free. 450 million dogs line up for free dog food. Purina Dog Chow understands that non-paying dog food consumers are currency, and buys Jim’s factory for $42 per dog." << in other historical elaineo lulz.
a111: Logged on 2017-09-30 19:14 mircea_popescu: sorry asciilifeform . all i have are my own notes, which are as all hand notes useless without hte backing of the library of origin (in this case, the universitary library of cluj). teh interwebs dun seem to have a "here's the list of trotsky letters".
mircea_popescu: as it happens i was JUST reading http://trilema.com/2017/the-practical-costs-of-hallucinated-freedom/#selection-549.0-549.226 which is eerily apropos.
mircea_popescu: as no 0 led or 0 terminated string will ever pass anyway
asciilifeform: i proposed primorial strictly as an initial winnowing to replace the idiot trial divisions koch et al used.
asciilifeform: ( certainly not even for as large a number as 64bit... much less 4096 )
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-07#1722415 << if you have a comp the size of jupiter, you could ~maybe~ have such a thing as a 128bit primorial. ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-07#1722411 << 1 ) ffa is closed form. i.e. it CAN be written as a number of nand gates, with a 'funnel' at the top, to which you present a,b,c, e.g. 4096bit, numbers, and at the bottom in a little cup you get a^b mod c , and with NO UPWARDS FEEDBACK FLOW of information , i.e. answer comes after same interval of time always, and with strictly downwards signals. ☝︎☟︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-10-07 21:09 apeloyee: asciilifeform: turns out a simple, ffa-suitable O(N^2) algorithm exists for GCD. This is adapted from GMP docs with one extra operation in the loop: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/oupUJ/?raw=true . Note: the code as posted is likely wrong, but I'm sure the idea can be made to work.
apeloyee: asciilifeform: turns out a simple, ffa-suitable O(N^2) algorithm exists for GCD. This is adapted from GMP docs with one extra operation in the loop: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/oupUJ/?raw=true . Note: the code as posted is likely wrong, but I'm sure the idea can be made to work. ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-10-07 16:49 mircea_popescu: my guess is that it's as close to closed form solutions as possible, hence all the barrett fucking etc, but then again i'm a weak programmer and a very dubious mathematician.
mircea_popescu: my guess is that it's as close to closed form solutions as possible, hence all the barrett fucking etc, but then again i'm a weak programmer and a very dubious mathematician. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: and in other curiosities, did http://trilema.com/2015/okcupidcom-the-dating-site/#comment-116639 ever come to anything as far anyone knows ?
asciilifeform: mod6: unit tests will work as pcode known-good in/out pairs
asciilifeform: mod6: i've been using (unreleased) 'p' as the tester.
asciilifeform: '“the year is 1935 and you have been tasked with creating a mascot to represent the Nazi party at its political rallies.” “Think about all of the information you have learned about Hitler and the Nazi party,” the assignment directed. “You will create a COLORFUL illustration of the mascot. Give the mascot a NAME. You will also write an explanation as to why the mascot was chosen to represent the Nazi party.”'
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-07#1722059 <- yes, I got that as part of my previous log combing on this ☝︎
asciilifeform: i left it as unhandled exception, mircea_popescu laughed, we had thread
mod6: well, if you walk for 2/3h per day, maybe don't think of them as "shoes". perhaps, "proper foot equipment" or something.
mircea_popescu: mod6 most shoes here (as in romania, as in egypt, as in etc) are ~30.
mircea_popescu: as is typical for airplane pilots and so oon
asciilifeform: 'into btc' just as likely to mean 'into coinbase' lol
asciilifeform: as for 'does arson count', if d00d had just a megaphone and persuaded 500 derps to drink bleach, imho also counts.
asciilifeform: betcha as many trampled as perforated.
asciilifeform: notably, 'The patrons of the two-story club were either overcome by smoke or trampled to death as everyone rushed for the club’s lone exit, officials said.'
mircea_popescu: he can shoot 60 losers for me just as well as he can push paper for dimon.
asciilifeform: for so long as the soldiers are willing to http://btcbase.org/log/2015-08-19#1244654 ☝︎
asciilifeform: dunno that they need any such thing as 'savings to plunder' -- just printolade
asciilifeform: looks to me like same snoar as in 2013
asciilifeform: btw iirc coinbase is on the list of derps who explicitly promised to pass off 2xolade ( next 'cash' ) as 'btc'
asciilifeform: as if d00d with 100k in the bank ( per the most recent link, he wired it to some pinoy chick ) couldn't get a proper kalash wherever