asciilifeform: wai wut srsly

asciilifeform falls down

asciilifeform: 'valuable usg doorknob!'

asciilifeform: with doorknob aha

asciilifeform: how come nobody smears lsd on ~my~ doorknob, l0l

asciilifeform: TheNewDeal: perhaps you're just for target practice, like most folk

asciilifeform: aha, downer

asciilifeform will have to be driven mad with good old fashioned poison and shot with old-fashioned guns

asciilifeform: so i can't comment

asciilifeform: TheNewDeal: for some reason they never fire at folks who own a spectrum analyzer, even a very old and ratty one

asciilifeform missed this l0lm0m3nt

asciilifeform: !b 7 ✂︎

asciilifeform: l0l!!

asciilifeform: specifically tradecraft

asciilifeform: aha

asciilifeform: ^

asciilifeform: yeah but original term meant something specific, quite analogous to chopping off your own arm that's been bitten by a cobra etc

asciilifeform: prolly best translation is 'damage control'

asciilifeform: because that ain't it ?

asciilifeform: mno

asciilifeform: anyway you don't get cycles unless somebody was a badboy

asciilifeform: 1377 sk1lz

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=22-08-2015#1248465 ☝︎

asciilifeform: mod6's works iirc

asciilifeform: afaik the only implementation that barfed from these is... mine

asciilifeform: was sorta the point of 'v'

asciilifeform: now who doesn't dream of that !

asciilifeform: y'know, sorta like ye olde blockchain

asciilifeform: (you simply end up with a dead branch on the tree)

asciilifeform: and in fact makes a convenient record of what's been tried and rejected

asciilifeform: it quite readily supports obsoleted mistakes and dead ends

asciilifeform: v does not imply 'carved in stone for the ages'

asciilifeform: i was sorta having this thread with mod6 earlier:

asciilifeform: ;;later tell jurov http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/attachments/20151219/mempool_dev2_a654caa4f28ed6f78906fef28060c2f46470f067.patch << why not vpatch ?

asciilifeform: aha.

asciilifeform: either formula, depending on whether you wanna be an intro- or extro-verted mircea_popescu

asciilifeform: also works

asciilifeform: by the next new moon, the remaining you will be a mircea_popescu . ~~~

asciilifeform: take this Luger, and put it in your mouth, like so...

asciilifeform: 'every morning, when you wake up, look in the mirror; if you notice that you are not a mircea_popescu, ☟︎

asciilifeform: and the master replied,

asciilifeform: ~~~ once upon a time, a disciple asked mircea_popescu: 'how do i become a mircea_popescu ?'

asciilifeform: quite barfalicious.

asciilifeform to his grief went and read

asciilifeform: and i answer, 'not ~yet~'

asciilifeform: my brother sometimes asks 'have you dug latrine yet'

asciilifeform: which is behind property line and so never replaced by anybody

asciilifeform: this was the house line

asciilifeform: incidentally the city line was fine

asciilifeform: neato

asciilifeform: possibly

asciilifeform: ah the place where some schmuck got sweeheart contract with city hall to dig up ~whole town~ ?

asciilifeform: in what country ?

asciilifeform: who ever replaces sewer pipe ?

asciilifeform: ( old thread... http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-05-2014#689735 ) ☝︎

asciilifeform: city hall said '1920s'

asciilifeform: (possibly not quite 100)

asciilifeform: aha

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this was strictly downhill. known bug of 100-y.o. clay pipe: porous. roots follow gradient.

asciilifeform: bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzhhhhttt!

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: actually i can hardly think of better name than 'vuvuzela' for a usg idiocy built solely to drown out intelligent thought

asciilifeform: mod6: an odd way to phrase it (descendants point to ancestors, really) but yes.

asciilifeform: mod6: correct. and afaik this behaviour does not need any special cases

asciilifeform pictures scene, mircea_popescu's servers in burlap sack on motorcycle, an old pier, a splash

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu !

asciilifeform: it was the only reason i had it.

asciilifeform: without having to sign them

asciilifeform: because you can throw in any patches you like, made for the occasion of the test

asciilifeform: it is handy for testing a vtron

asciilifeform: aha

asciilifeform: (ergo, has its own 'genesis' somewhere) ☟︎

asciilifeform: the only kind of thing that is 'in own tree' is a patch that has no common ancestor with ~anything~ in the genesis tree

asciilifeform: i did a good bit of this

asciilifeform: also if you set your vtron to 'wild' mode you can trivially test various combos

asciilifeform: thinkaboutit

asciilifeform: just as if i had cut out a single line of a single file, and a subsequent patch relies on that line.

asciilifeform: it splits off from the node immediately prior to the removal

asciilifeform: no

asciilifeform: aha

asciilifeform: the only necessary change to make working with multiple trees convenient would be 'multi-press' where you specify more than one 'head' ☟︎

asciilifeform: it would

asciilifeform: mod6: nope

asciilifeform: it would end up as an altogether other tree in the graph

asciilifeform: that never existed before

asciilifeform: say we were to have a documentation dir

asciilifeform: nah those are yet another matter

asciilifeform: but dead branches of the tree, basically

asciilifeform: perhaps orphan is not the word

asciilifeform: if the toposort is correctly written, mod6's vtron ought to do it

asciilifeform: the other thing a vtron needs to handle is orphans

asciilifeform: thinkaboutit

asciilifeform: (a patch that uses a deleted file can be legit so long as it is not on the tree branch that contained the deletion)

asciilifeform: gotta also make sure that subsequent patches do not try to use a deleted file

asciilifeform: skip?

asciilifeform: wai wat

asciilifeform: oughta post this on therealbitcoin.org

asciilifeform: mod6: very neat

asciilifeform: it creates a 'knobs.h'

asciilifeform: mod6: test it with my latest patch

asciilifeform: associating with idiot child is a choice.