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mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel but you wanted them to act on the principle of x.
assbot: Logged on 02-03-2015 18:13:59; gabriel_laddel: simply on the principle of "fuck the system, it sucks"
mircea_popescu: !up gabriel_laddel
gabriel_laddel: 14:16:34 BingoBoingo: gabriel_laddel: the 'adults' are not going to be happy about you writing a program that converts all books in libgen.info + all papers you can get of school networks into a useful format via a combination of OCR and heuristic hackery << Plain OCR is normally sufficient for books without advanced mathematics as long as you are willing to liberate the pages from the spine. Test it with a sheetfed
BingoBoingo: !up gabriel_laddel
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> gabriel_laddel: it was quite clear in '43 that third reich would fall apart << is this some bit of original research ?
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: it was quite clear in '43 that third reich would fall apart
ben_vulpes: implying, gabriel_laddel?
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell gabriel_laddel argentina has a fixation on electing newspaper men. mitre, frondizi, etc.
BingoBoingo: gabriel_laddel: the 'adults' are not going to be happy about you writing a program that converts all books in libgen.info + all papers you can get of school networks into a useful format via a combination of OCR and heuristic hackery << Plain OCR is normally sufficient for books without advanced mathematics as long as you are willing to liberate the pages from the spine. Test it with a sheetfed scanner sometime.
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel why the fuck would he do that.
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: i bet you could toss 19 out of 20 of'em for this
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel thgat the adults are not going ot be happy.
asciilifeform: only from gabriel_laddel's summary thus far
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel how do you know this, sight unseen ?
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: i didn't think the thiel thing could get -more- snoreworthy
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: wai wut
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: play nicely ?
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel truth.
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel azn as in indian, but not chinese.
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel i sent her an email. iron a shirt in case shows up.
assbot: Logged on 01-03-2015 06:14:45; gabriel_laddel: can you predict exactly what a WoT enabled world will look like?
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel i dunno, i dun tend to spy on people writing code that much, i'm prolly the most ignorant in the room on that score.
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel it occurs to me the templeos guy is kinda high iq
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: eww opengl blackbox
assbot: Logged on 01-03-2015 06:13:09; gabriel_laddel: my point is that science does not advance "at random"
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: try to see the pattern here
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: you don't need to open a sewer hatchway to get to herr murray
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: lol nope.
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: he's selective re: which trendisms to employ
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel there are two threads here. one is "thiel is dumb". this is not being entertained. the other is, "thiel's uneducated". this is my position.
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: thiel's spewing trendisms to work your hindbrain
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform gabriel_laddel i just parsed it as "a weird way to say mountebanks"
assbot: Logged on 01-03-2015 06:11:21; gabriel_laddel: It took 3 generations of masters to produce Leonardo
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel actually moocs are the superlative american college.
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel, mircea_popescu: simply pointing out that most fiat 'barons' are more like herr buffett than mircea_popescu
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: was it by speaking with 'legit' physicists ?
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: think of how you, yourself, came upon al schwartz's thing
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: he's stuck relying on 'legitimate' communities of 'domain experts' and is doomed to never see anything of genuine interest, which is 100% on crank islands
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel or what they are. or how to look for them. essentially he's a girl that'd like to fuck but never heard of clothes, or make-up or going out.
assbot: Logged on 01-03-2015 06:05:50; gabriel_laddel: "measuring the fucking crystals" << "MPEX is just a bitcoin security exchange, just like any other bitoin security exchange"
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: find someone whose heuristic isn't 'give it to -me-'
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: i confess that thiel's experiment would be considerably more interesting if it were 100m not 100k
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: what would we lose if it never happened
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: and to what does that thing amount ?
decimation: gabriel_laddel: who was the 'herri seldon' who foresaw the development of leonardo?
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: i can only speak re: the costs of the component which i was to wangle time on
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel the problem isn't exactly of the equipment. the problem is that if you make new equipment, you don't know if you're measuring the new equipment vs the old equipment or an actual effect.
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: there were two proposed experiments.
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel exactly why not lol ?
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: the interesting thing, and important to explain mircea_popescu's puzzlement, is that the enemy has been studiously arranging experiments to avoid actually testing the effect in question and declaring it 'settled'
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel this is not how it works.
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel string theorists are a lot like freudian psychanalists. the better ones follow the lieberman line.
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: if you're thinking of a human-cranked systematization project, straight to doug lenat's 'cyc' (i'll spoil it for you: it was stillborn)
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: let's put it this way. the theoretical work gives very specific - numeric - predictions
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: ditto the roach repellent
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: any more information on the Chinese run << of al's eötvös experiment ? just some private correspondence, where he confirms the same story told on usenet
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel no i got that.
assbot: Logged on 01-03-2015 01:05:16; gabriel_laddel: Only a crisis - actual or perceived - produces real change. when that crisis occurs, the actions that are taken depend on the ideas that are lying around. that I belive is our basic function: to develop altenatives to existing policies, to keep them alive and available until the politically impossible becomes politically inevitable.
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel if you got a purpose in mind, you need a tool not a child.
assbot: Logged on 01-03-2015 00:34:18; gabriel_laddel: The things these VCs fund are simply /strange/
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: i'm not certain that he's a fuckwit; could also be scum that knows precisely what he's doing
assbot: Logged on 01-03-2015 00:25:20; gabriel_laddel: from http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.com/2013/03/sam-altman-is-not-blithering-idiot.html
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel mebbe.
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel ^ that entire discussion
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel how so ?
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: sov. plan b >> http://www.contravex.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/Gorbachev-and-Pete-Mercedes-560-SEL.png (left hand. gorby on a very well-known d.c. street.)
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: check your time machine settings. you've arrived at the wrong war
BingoBoingo: gabriel_laddel: Could also be called yacht or pile of hookers induced brain atrophy
BingoBoingo: gabriel_laddel: When you make your fortune on stupidity, the cocaine you can afford makes you liek the stupidity
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: well actually your observation is correct above: the only way to fund such a thing is to be obscenely successful in some entirely unrelated venture.
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: possibly because i explained to him just what would be involved
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: problem is, the folks willing to be the 'pioneers with arrows in their back' would each have to pay 100M not 100K for the thing to happen.
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: 20k is pocket change
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: i recently watched such a machine burst lcd for no discernible reason
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: voluntary (nominally) for the adults, yes
BingoBoingo: !up gabriel_laddel
BingoBoingo: * gabriel_laddel [redated] has left #bitcoin-assets ("Killed buffer")
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell gabriel_laddel Maybe consider less descriptive quit messages?
BingoBoingo: gabriel_laddel asciilifeform: Our confusion is Chinese recreation
Stunna: gabriel_laddel: yup it definitely could
BingoBoingo: gabriel_laddel: Phree
BingoBoingo: gabriel_laddel: As I understand it now you are totally requesting and escrow service where I would have to recieve BTC on your behalf
BingoBoingo: gabriel_laddel: The thing is I don't like doing the escrow thing. To discourage that I charge too much to make the choice of myself as an escrow economical
BingoBoingo: gabriel_laddel: For what purpose?
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell gabriel_laddel http://trilema.com/2014/most-wrong-and-absolutely-wrongest/#footnote_3_52271 ?
BingoBoingo: gabriel_laddel: Fire in Alabama
BingoBoingo: gabriel_laddel: You want the hotel article
thestringpuller: gabriel_laddel: this is a good country. in a world where a country betrays their soldiers, what do those soldiers do?
BingoBoingo: !up gabriel_laddel
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel that's the plan. it won't work, but anyway.
asciilifeform: !up gabriel_laddel
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel i specifically dispute the stance that we're trying "again". it's still the same one try, and it's still going oin magnificently.
ascii_field: gabriel_laddel: except that they -have- a wot. just, firmly under sc4mz0r control.
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel for the sake of argument, can you identify an university that closer adheres to dijk's ideas set forth in your 2nd url than b-a ?
ascii_field: ty gabriel_laddel!
ascii_field: gabriel_laddel: if you're interested in the eotvos thing, absolutely must read the old threads here
ascii_field: gabriel_laddel: got similar response
ascii_field: gabriel_laddel: schwartz actually experimented with cleaning it up and submitting as proper latexed paper to journals
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel and all that just from an essay ?