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asciilifeform: the sum, the sum of them
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform these are too small for that to be touched.
mircea_popescu: largest tx in 2 is 3854 b ; in 1 1519b
asciilifeform: just happens to be the straw that breaks camel's back
asciilifeform: yeah i didnt think so
mircea_popescu: none of these are problematic in either the "new boltons to protocol" p2sh sense or size sense.
mircea_popescu: and finally 168002 is 0000000000000a08f0e6aa70d9f8b990c48c2d48c577393c73b9acb9a55d12cb also 28.6kb long, 61 txn
mircea_popescu: in 60 txn
shinohai: Meanwhile, at the "Bitcoin Cash" labs: https://github.com/fyookball/electrum/issues/6#issuecomment-319662093
asciilifeform: disk is a brand-new and very spiffy half TB samsung 'evo' sdd
asciilifeform: and there's a history of trb nodes of various types perma-wedging there
asciilifeform did go back and verify that in fact it has the locks patch and is indeed mod6's release + phfpatch -- rather than asciilifeform's mistake
mircea_popescu: i don't specifically recall 168000-168002 being a heavy load in that sense
asciilifeform: this thing behaves precisely like trb sans locks patch, i think
asciilifeform: i dun think it is anything to do with that tx per se -- it is the drop that overflowed the barrel in pre-dblockspatch trb
a111: Logged on 2017-08-06 04:09 asciilifeform: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/GWzyh/?raw=true << the pattern, in short.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-06#1694350 << the magic moment that repeats 4evah ☝︎
mircea_popescu: in that it doesn't have >1k ins/outs script elements
mircea_popescu: the txn linked though isn't one of the usual suspects.
mircea_popescu: but if you say this isn't what's getting your fanless box...
asciilifeform: this specimen tries to verify and fails, then consequently unwinds the reorg back
mircea_popescu: this failure mode exists, where node spends forever unable to distinguish between orphaned chain, because can't ever get to where it actually verifies a sig.
mircea_popescu: see, cuz that's why i said "slow box". cpu starved.
asciilifeform: ( which i thought was mircea_popescu's implication earlier )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: prolly i oughta elaborate. sig verify is a blocking process, it doesn't timeoutfail
a111: Logged on 2017-08-06 12:58 asciilifeform: anyway if you actually read the log, would see sig verify failing repeatedly.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-06#1694478 << i did read the log you pasted. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform aite, leaving it be then.
mircea_popescu: phf can you add a refby:name to logotron search ? it'd be equivalent to from:mircea "btcbase.org/log" but list the values rather than the references.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo et al : to be very specific, the wedged box is running a press of mod6's 0.5.4-release, with the only change being phf's bsd patch linked yesterday. ☟︎
trinque: in theory, the "profile" mechanism would allow for a tmsr ebuild tree that could build on multiple chosen platforms.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-06 04:40 mod6: Second, I'm not sure how you want to make a Cuntoo out of BSD... we should revisit that later.
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-06#1694394 << portage will sit down on BSD. I plopped it onto openbsd sometime earlier this year. ☝︎
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2017/08/legacy-senate-gop-leader-to-america-at-least-hillary-clinton-isnt-president/ << Qntra - Legacy Senate GOP Leader To America: "At Least Hillary Clinton Isn't President"
asciilifeform: i still gonna saw open the elf & see if inside is what's expected
BingoBoingo: What openssl version does ToasterBSD use?
jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: !~later tell mircea_popescu http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/aOYWq/?raw=true
asciilifeform: ( the debuglog, specifically )
asciilifeform: anyway if you actually read the log, would see sig verify failing repeatedly. ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-08-06 06:53 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-06#1694347 << the problem seems entirely like slow node struggliong with lengthy orphan chain.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-06#1694445 << except that this node beat the living shit out of dulap previous 2 yrs, speedwise, because ssd. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: a then prolly not.
BingoBoingo pencils it into "to see" list, has something of an allergy to musical theater genre
BingoBoingo: Not to my recollection
mircea_popescu: more ladyboys less plumbers ? sounds like teh swamp's drainin'.
BingoBoingo: In other news Trump is pushing an immigration bill that would institute a point system with major points for speaking English. This is bullish for pinays.
BingoBoingo: Meme is title of that particular Qntra piece
BingoBoingo: Trolling example is from meme, Discourse example is taken from a June 2021 Qntra piece
mircea_popescu: hey nb, where's that from ?
BingoBoingo: "We captured your citadel and taken your women into bondage. They have celebrated rather than lamented the evolution of their situation" << Discourse
mircea_popescu: in other lulz : kathy keeton treated her breast cancer with hydrazine sulphate, an idea she got reading penthouse (which she published)
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/salon-kitty-and-lempire-des-sens/ << Trilema - Salon Kitty and L'Empire des sens
BingoBoingo: "All your base are belong to us" << Trolling
BingoBoingo: When that happens it's not trolling! It's literate discourse!
BingoBoingo: When have trolls used any language with fluency?
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo you know that's pretty broken spanish even for my low standards,
a111: Logged on 2017-08-06 04:39 mod6: I'd like to get to the bottom of this!
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-06#1694393 << it's most likely deep in the bowels of bsd-bdb interactions. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-08-06 04:21 asciilifeform: see, it may seem to mod6 that asciilifeform is simply being difficult, whereas what asciilifeform found was that WE NEVER ACTUALLY FIXED 168K
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-06#1694380 << there's no "we fixed X" outside of a rewritten p2p model. what exactly are you going to fix ? orphan chain reorgs take a lot of db resources as it is now. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-06#1694347 << the problem seems entirely like slow node struggliong with lengthy orphan chain. ☝︎☟︎
BingoBoingo: Way behind the times. The hunnit dolla prollem solva https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/mobile/product/719005259/redirect
a111: Logged on 2017-08-06 03:43 phf: you replay to 167998, you then let it run till 168000 on the network. if it doesn't wedge with that setup, than you have two possibilities. it is either a heisenbug, or you need to replay to an earlier block, say 167000 and let that run on the wild network, etc.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-06#1694341 << the method is correct, but entirely unjustified effort for the possible payoff. nodes wedge because legacy bitcoin is shit, this sort of chrome polishing you propose is to be reserved for actually written code imo. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-08-05 20:26 asciilifeform: what's there to inspect ?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-05#1694272 << you've looked at these neh ? it's a very strict format, first line the command, 2nd line the otp. what last year's codes fits this format ? ☝︎
mircea_popescu: this way L only knows C after T made a decision ; D only knows a C-candiate once user made a reply ; T never knows C-candidate.
mircea_popescu: relays hash(it) to T and L. T replies to D with either "OK" or "FAIL", and reveals (C) to L. L calculates hash(OTP) and compares it with what D sent."
a111: Logged on 2017-08-03 18:57 mircea_popescu: trinque can always hash any item that is long to check for conformity in audits.
mircea_popescu: trinque re last para, what's wrong with you know, http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-03#1693444 ? basically replace "The user decrypts the ciphertext and returns the cleartext OTP to D, which relays it to T, meanwhile revealing it to L. T replies to D with either "OK" or "FAIL", and a transaction is complete." with "T sends hash(C) to L, encrypted(C) to D. The user decrypts the ciphertext and returns the cleartext OTP to D, which ☝︎☟︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-08-05 20:09 deedbot: http://trinque.org/2017/08/05/otp-bot-services/ << trinque - Towards a Reliable OTP Mechanism for Bot Services
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-05#1694264 << pretty impressive design, imo. definitely overkill for the originally contemplate usecase, which is the right way to go from experience, usecases balloon in bitcoin. ☝︎
mod6: Perhaps this is something related to trying to handle the P2SH. Unsure at this point, but worth a look.
mod6: also a while back guruvan brought up the fact that when BIP 16 (P2SH) was put in was in or around this block? maybe this block exactly (need to confirm still). But if you decode these:
a111: Logged on 2017-08-05 19:27 phf: that memory is incorrect, the correct memory would be of ~you~ barfing at the then suggestion of supporting bsd :>
mircea_popescu hasn't looked at the bsds in years.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-05 19:15 asciilifeform: midnight/'fish' dun work with the heathen shell either, i end up having to tar up whatevers and sftp'em in/out , takes 100x as long
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-05#1694227 << lol what tales from the crypts are these! ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-08-05 09:18 phf: kiss from a rose … this is tmsr radio! i'm waiting from your calls.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-05#1694192 << isn't he adorbs when he drinks tho! ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://68.media.tumblr.com/4272e27dda08f699fe4746a7a18ac902/tumblr_o371mz3kLQ1tvy3cwo1_500.gif ; mostly quoted for the sledgehammer.
mod6: here's the tx in question, exists in block 168`001: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/In853/?raw=true
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/D52C50A0034280ED5F7890F98B6FE38938611B865FF565FE70C268FD2A860520 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1275...9587 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '77.37.12.174 (ssh-rsa key from 77.37.12.174 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (Unknown DE HE)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/D52C50A0034280ED5F7890F98B6FE38938611B865FF565FE70C268FD2A860520 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1144...3737 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '77.37.12.174 (ssh-rsa key from 77.37.12.174 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (Unknown DE HE)
a111: Logged on 2015-07-23 02:37 asciilifeform: neh that's not 168001
mod6: http://btcbase.org/log/2015-07-23#1210236 << I remember that we disagree even as to which block is the problem. ☝︎
mod6: Also, this is a non-deterministic problem, which adds to the frustration. You have a good candidate machine, it seems, to help get this resolved though. I'll dig through your logs a bot.
BingoBoingo: http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=8559&pr=1 << And it comes FOR the darkness too
mod6: Second, I'm not sure how you want to make a Cuntoo out of BSD... we should revisit that later. ☟︎☟︎
mod6: I'd like to get to the bottom of this! ☟︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2015-07-08 16:36 mod6: <+gernika> mod6 I've attempted syncing on OpenBSD again and am now past block 168000 and have reached 185126. It's going very very slowly though. << good to hear though
mod6: I seem to remember this being specific to BSD, and in non-deterministic form. And looks like gernika for instance just simply resync'd and it seemed to not hit it again, for reasons yet unknown: http://btcbase.org/log/2015-07-08#1193289 ☝︎
mod6: Look. First off, no I don't believe we ever found the cause of this. I remember pulling my hair out trying to figure it out -- there are logs indicating as much.
asciilifeform: i'ma go to bed because if i keep at this, will pop a blood vessel somewhere.
asciilifeform: *while this
asciilifeform: until this 'not' remains, trb ain't a program, it's a voodoo incantation.
asciilifeform: idea was, this-here static build will do same thing on every box where it builds and doesn't bomb on warmup.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-04 23:13 mircea_popescu: right. so basically time exposed a broken box you had in your basement. happens to me all teh time.
asciilifeform: it was still THERE, waiting.